"John.E" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Please post *one* instance of where I fed your uninformed assumptions!
I never fed your assumptions! I simply stated that you were wrong.
Also,
I told you that I would prove that you were wrong. You called me a
faker,
and I have proved you completely wrong. You said that you would eat
humble
pie if you were proved wrong.


I asked you if you were a YM did I not?

Liar! You did not ask anything of the sort. You assumed, in your
ignorance, that I was claiming to hold the Practical YM. Not only did I
*never* make such a claim, but I actually posted that I did *NOT* have the
YM practical qualification - many times.


You assumed that I was claiming to be a YM (practical), and you called me a
faker.

Your assumption was 100% incorrect.

You said that you would eat humble pie if you were wrong. Well ... you
*are* wrong. Are you a real man?



14/01/2004 @ 13:10 - "I've described the test several times."
How can describe what you have never performed?

14/01/2004 @ 18:34 - "As I pointed out earlier, it is 13 years since I did
this stuff."
But you never have in a practical environment! and teh question was a
practical one.

14/01/04 @ 13:10 - Donal - "As far as I remember..."
IMO still implies you have done the 'remebered' thing?


It implies absolutely nothing more than it says.


You can remeber what you have never done. Dammed good going that man. Wish
I
could, I could then remeber my night of passion with Felicity Kendal,
Eather
Kit and ZaZa Gabour. Mmmmmmmm


as opposed
to 'I have been told/heard' which would clearly indicate that you have
not.

I wasn't trying to be helpful. As I have already stated, I have been
very
clear - over a number of years - that I am a novice.


Irrelevant to one who is not familiar with your previous posts, I am only
concerned with your responses within this thread.

OK! Can you point out where I have claimed to have the Yachtmaster
Practical?

Of course you cannot! Because I never made such a claim.

I am not a faker.


You have offered to supply details you can not be possesion of, to
wit,
a
YACHTMASTER CERTIFICATE NUMBMER, sounds like a liar to me, with all
this
who-ha you are certainly not a faker, just a full of BS and a troll to
boot
(a good one at that).

Now, I *will* call you a liar. Let me make this absolutely clear. You
are
a liar.

I did **not** offer to supply you with "details" of my Yachtmaster
Certificate. I offered to "answer all of your questions".


Reading the thread carefully you are correct.

Of course I am. ... As I have been all along.


I have indeed be culpable in
assuming you meant to knock me down with a sudden display of valid
documentation. Liar no, stupid yes.

I did mean to knock you down. You called me a "faker". You are a liar.




Very simple. Everybody knows that I haven't done the practical. I've
said
it many times.

Not everyone or I would have no reason to kick off on you as I would be
already informed.

I've said it many, many times.

You called me a faker -- which is the same as calling me a liar.


I want a retraction.


Believe me.






If Joe and Jeff (who knows that I've only done the shorebased), want to
assume that I've done the practical, then that really is their problem.


Yes. Same for anyone else. Not to answer a clear call to clarify the
situation can and has been in htuis case, by me, construed as feeding
assumption.

So what? That really is their problem. I've told them the truth often
enough. In fact, I've proved that Jeff has actually read a post where I
stated that I only held the "shorebased" Yachtmaster. He responded to it --
and only a few weeks ago!!!





I said that I would answer your questions. Didn't I?


Yes.

Once again, you are a **LIAR**.


No. Only guilty of false assumptions, helping to create trolls and then
biting on and responding to them.

Yes, you are guilty of false assumptions. Your false assumptions led you
to call me a "faker".


You said that you would eat humble pie if I proved you wrong.


All you have to do is say "sorry".





snip - referend to loads of old stuff that I had not read - not
releted
to
this thread

I have only been hanging around the last couple of weeks, again I
would
ask
you, why not just answer NO when I asked if you were a YACHTMASTER? No
shame
in it, a few years ago I was not one either, but the fact is, I am
now.

Well done!


Thankyou. I worked hard for it.

Do you feel that it gives you the right to call complete strangers
liars?


Not at all. I take that right just by breathing if I feel the individual
concerned deserves it and is making loud noises in a public place. As
indeed
I feel you do. On occasion through this discourse you have call me a liar.
I
did in fact go from CC to YMOff practical (blue book) between Feb'93 and
Nov
'93. So you gonna say sorry to me? After all I too am a complete stranger.
Tell you what, don't bother, I can deal with scepticism and rejection.

You're nuts! Where did I say that you had not accomplished the things that
you have claimed?

I expressed extreme sceptisism at your apparent claim to have gone from
absolute beginner to Yachmaster Ocean in one year. I believe that you
confirmed my opinion on the matter.



I have never claimed that I have the Yachtmaster Practical. Far from
it.
I have claimed that I am a *novice* sailor. How dare you attack my
honesty?

Note my responce to your comments above, mortaly wounded horror, 'How dare
YOU'. Tehe!!! You have done all of the above to me but hey, life is a
bitch
and it is your choice. Deal with it, I have.

No you haven't. You said that you would eat "humble pie".



What kind of sick, twisted, individual are you?

No less sick or twisted than you. You baited, I bit. Tough! More fool me,
poor sad you.

I did *not* try to bait you.

Joe, and Jeff were fair bait because they had *both* seen my claim that I
had only taken the shorebased exam.



Are you sooo pleased with
your Practial certificate that you feel qualified to sneer at those of
us
who only took the theory course?


Not at all. You have permitted me to build my uninformed assumptitions, in
part fed them. If you wind people up, you must be prepared for the fall
out.
You strike me as the boy in the playground taht winds up a fight and then
calls for the teacher.

I haven't asked for any help!

*You* strike me as a pompous ass who was only too happy to boast about his
qualifications. You also seemed happy to bring down some innocent
bystander in your pathetic attempt to demonstrate your superiority.

The strange thing is, that after your initial post, I immediately bowed to
your superiority, and that wasn't enough for you.

Why did you feel the need to prove that I was lying?



Takes more than a classroom
docket to be a YACHTMASTER. I think far from me eating humble pie, no
way.

You said that you would eat humble pie if I proved you wrong. It seems
that
you lied!


What have you proved me wrong over aside from being a faker (and that is
even still debatable)? I believe I said IMO you we not yachtmaster, and I
am
right.

Jeeeeze!!!

Do you want me to post your words?


You called me a "faker" ---- and you called me out!

You really should have the decency to apologise.





snip


Lets just face it Donal, you and I are not going to be lovers. We have
engaged in a game of brinkmanship and for various reasons neither of us
can
win outright. I posted a question that offened you for whatever reason and
you set me up for a fall. Well done, you did a good job and I bit and I
applaud your efforts. However, my primary question boiled down to 'are you
a
YM', and your answer is NO, so no humble pie for me to eat, but I have to
add nor are you truly a faker as you have rightly pointed out my query was
based on a false assumption I had made, which you permitted to exisist
longer than needed to gratify your need to feel good about something and
get
one over, cool, I can (as is my right) assume this is a chip due to the
lack
of the full YM coming through! (true or not does not matter) The way you
get
so offended by being questioned is sad though, you will gladly call
another
a LIAR and then get all tearful if you are on the recieving end, I feel I
have to advise you to get a life and stop throwing stones unless you can
deal with the a little broken glass of your own.

Why are you writing this nonsense?

Why don't you simply say that I wasn't lying?

This isn't about me proving that you are wrong. I have no wish to "dance
over your grave".

I just want to clear my name.

Regards


Donal
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