"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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We don't have many holding tanks here. It's totally illegal to empty a
holding tank within 2(??) miles of the shore.

I don't follow - are you saying its illegal to dump a holding tank, but it
is
legal to direct discharge?

Yes! Although local bye-laws may(rarely) make direct discharge illegal.
It will depend on the area. If you are in a drying, fishing harbour, with a
12m tide, that flushes into the Atlantic twice a day, then having a pee
isn't going to cause a problem. However, if you are in a marina that has
lock gates, then things are completely different.


Regards


Donal
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"Lanod" sniffed...

It's totally illegal to empty a
holding tank within 2(??) miles of the shore.

You don't know, Yachtmaster?


I suspect that I would cough loudly. After that it would depend on the
appearance of the individual. If he looked like he could kick the crap
out
of me,

TRANSlation: Anybody over 5' tall.



Of course, hindsight is a great thing. In reality, most of us would walk
on
because we need time to sift the information.

Here in the Land of Freedom we would yell ,''hey asshole, stop it, or
else!!!!"

Scotty

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Here in the Land of Freedom we would yell ,''hey asshole, stop it, or
else!!!!"

Wouldn't he just shoot you? Or, perhaps you would both have guns??

Regards


Donal
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Sorry, I forgot where you're from, subject. Of course we'd both have guns,
but when one starts a conversation with, ''hey asshole'', one should always
have one hand on ones' gun.

Scotty

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Here in the Land of Freedom we would yell ,''hey asshole, stop it, or
else!!!!"

Wouldn't he just shoot you? Or, perhaps you would both have guns??

Regards


Donal
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Donal wrote:

Many of the French harbours dry
completely!



May French harbours are spoiled by the presence of
French female body hair, still attached to said bodies, yes?

Cheers
Marty

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Sorry, I forgot where you're from, subject. Of course we'd both have
guns,
but when one starts a conversation with, ''hey asshole'', one should
always
have one hand on ones' gun.


My folks bought house from a widow who's husband had been shot dead by the
next door neighbor. The coronor's jury had ruled it suicide when they
discovered that the victim's last words were "Shut up, bitch" directed at
the shooter's wife whilst the shooter was holding a rifle. American Fork,
Utah circa 1947.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:01:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.

I'm playing with my nipples right now. Does that excite you,
Homo-Jon-boy?


"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:19:57 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Is that what your boyfriend says about your armpits?

No. That's what your mommy says about you.

Only you would smell it.

If it was sewage, you could smell it from five docks away, dumbass.




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Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:01:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.


I'm playing with my nipples right now. Does that excite you,
Homo-Jon-boy?



Good Lord.

Cheers

hahahahahahaaaaa Horass, you are soooo odd.

"MC" wrote in message
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Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:01:41 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


Oh wow. I'm so impressed by your sharp wit and big
tits.


I'm playing with my nipples right now. Does that excite you,
Homo-Jon-boy?



Good Lord.

Cheers

I'd turn him in. There are degrees of pollution.
You don't **** in your own bed. If you dump in a
marina or harbor, where people might swim, or it
might wash up on shore, then you deserve a beating.

The only time I'd discharge overboard, is when I
had no other option. For example, if I chartered
a boat without a holding tank and I was not
violating any laws. Still I would feel very
uncomfortable about it around other people.

Frankly, I think the BVI, for example, needs to
wake up and require holding tanks in all vessels
in the islands. Don't make people discharge in a
harbor!

So if you are chartering a boat with no holding
tank what do you do?

I wouldn't want to swim around a bunch of other
boats with direct discharge! In the USA, direct
discharge is forbidden and everyone has holding
tanks except for small boats. Even on my little
boat, when using a bucket, it is always offshore
aways. People are usually too embarrassed to use
the bucket and hold it when we are near shore.

I make a point of anchoring way out with the big
yachts. For one thing I like to anchor. For
another I like to hang next to the finer yachts,
and sail into my chosen spot--not motor. Only
pussies pick up moorings close to shore. I
suspect it is because they have never anchored
before. I've found that lots of sailors are
afraid to anchor! They always motor in too. So
why take an in-close mooring, so you can swim in
dirty water? So you can be around a lot of noise?
So you have a shorter dryer dinghy ride? Not me.

The idea is this, lets not all discharge in the
same place and not in places that don't have good
water circulation like a marina or harbor. That
is very bad etiquette and deserving of at least a
harsh verbal reprimand, and a fine might be a good
way to make the point stick. All this is assuming
you have a holding tank.

Now, if you are 2.5 miles offshore instead of 3 and
no one is within a mile of you. Do you need to plot
your exact position to verify the distance? No, use
common sense.

The other point is we have all been in positions were
we didn't speak up when we should. Next time
demonstrate some leadership. Be the bad guy and give
a harsh reprimand. Make them stop and if they
have a bad attitude, call the harbor nazi's if you
have to, and bear witness against them.

Don't think about what you should have done after the
fact. When someone is a damn fool, stop them from doing
what they're doing and correct them on the spot.

Bart Senior


MC wrote

This weekend as I transporting gear to the car from the usual w/e away I
noticed a powerboat running a small pump discharging what seemed to be
sewage in the marina. I made a loud cough but said nothing else. As I
walked along the pier I became annoyed with myself for not doing
anything else. It is prohibited to discharge untreated sewage within 500
m of shore -so what would you do?

Cheers