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BB lamely argued: It's not my opinion. Its a fact. You posted the proof =
on your website.

You can't tell diddly-squat from a picture on a website. But then, you =
can't tell diddly-squat from a hole in the ground, either.=20

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Donal asked: =20

-- His wife reads the ng, huh?

I don't think so....but very little gets by her.
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Haggie asked:=20
So you no longer eat beef??

On;y the herivorean beeves. Those that are cannibalistic have contained =
themselves to the NW and to Canada (I hope).
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Martin conjectured:=20
On the other hand if you grind bits of cattle and feed them
to cattle, does that not make the cattle into carnivorers?

Cannibals.
--=20
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Doug asked: If he meets you, is his opinion suddenly going to be worth =
something?

No. His is still outweighed by the others.


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Joe asked: Why do you sail=20
plastic that prove to blisters and much more costly to maintain?

Have had 3 fiberglass boats. No blisters. And haven't found them =
difficult to maintain at all. And they don't look like rust buckets.



--=20
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BB whined: The sheepdog haircut
doesn't help you, either.

Like I said, that picture is a year old and the haircut was a growing =
out stage...I'm a little perplexed at why you are SOOOOO concerned with =
who and what I am and do...one could surmise that you are a member of =
Neal's cult...You probably wear mauve slacks....


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I'm certain you outweigh me.

BB

Oh, ypou're 5 feet tall with osteoporosis? Sorry to hear that. Drink =
milk.

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"katysails" wrote in message ...
Joe asked: Why do you sail
plastic that prove to blisters and much more costly to maintain?

Have had 3 fiberglass boats. No blisters. And haven't found them
difficult to maintain at all. And they don't look like rust buckets.

Ive had 4 fiberglass boats, still have one. RedCloud will outlast all
of them.
I think you have seen pictures of RedCloud and Ill bet you anything
you have never seen any rust on my boat.......not one speck. Better
get to polishing that fading plastic boat of yours you only have 4
months to get it done
before you can use it for a few weeks when the ice thaws. I be out
sailing before sunrise, going to drag the bay on one tack, need to
stock up the fridge with shrimp for the outdoor BBQ party tommorrow
night.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

You sound like a real klutz.

You can man the messenger line next time and find out.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Has an odd owner. Not the dogs fault.

Never is. Poor animals get stuck with all sorts of assholes and idiots.
Wonder what your dog would say . . .

Max

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"Donal" wrote in message

His wife reads the ng, huh?

Not any longer. Two days of it and she remarked, "What a bunch of worthless
assholes." Of course she meant that in the nicest possible way.

Max

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Probably would say if he was still alive... "Carry your own damn booze."

"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Has an odd owner. Not the dogs fault.

Never is. Poor animals get stuck with all sorts of assholes and idiots.
Wonder what your dog would say . . .

Max

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Jor s******ed:=20
you only have 4
months to get it done

Actually, 3 and ut only takes us a day...you forget that in these =
northern climes we do not get the sun damage and fade to our glass boats =
that you do down there...I've seen what Florida boats look like when =
they haven't been taken care of....but then, if the same lack of care =
was applied to your own veseel, you would have a rust tuv. So...if =
you're a bad boat owner, you're going to have a bad looking boat....
--=20
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Probably would say if he was still alive... "Carry your own damn booze."

Cruel, you were. But think of all those stranded, snowbound skiers he
saved.

Max

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"katysails" wrote in message

Actually, 3 and ut only takes us a day...you forget that in these northern
climes we do not get the sun damage and fade to our glass boats that you do
down there...I've seen what Florida boats look like when they haven't been
taken care of....but then, if the same lack of care was applied to your own
veseel, you would have a rust tuv. So...if you're a bad boat owner, you're
going to have a bad looking boat....

Neglect is neglect, whether north or south. It just takes a little longer
up here.

Max

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"katysails" wrote

....You probably wear mauve slacks....


but not while viewing your web site. :-o

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Q: What bounced off Old Ironsides hull to give her that nickname?


"katysails" answered......

Cannibals.



Correct (2pts)

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''leave some meat on the bone next time.''

"Maxprop" pondered...
Wonder what your dog would say . . .

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"Donal" wrote in message

His wife reads the ng, huh?

Not any longer. Two days of it and she remarked, "What a bunch of
worthless
assholes." Of course she meant that in the nicest possible way.

A shrewd woman, indeed! I bet that she has never been involved in a car
crash?




Regards


Donal
--

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The main problem was finding him (and the booze)... he would wander off
and you could hear him clinking in the distance.

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Probably would say if he was still alive... "Carry your own damn booze."

Cruel, you were. But think of all those stranded, snowbound skiers he
saved.

Max

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One thing you need to watch is the mallability of the wire. I have used TIG
wire that hardened, cracked and broke when twisted or bent.Just check first
"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
Like you Doug, I prefer the bigger ringy-ding
type to the normal cotter pin.

However, I have never been satisfied with
either normal cotter pin or ringy-dings type
of cotter-pin for turnbuckles.

Last year I rigged and taped nine boats. I would
use the larger ringy-ding type and tape them. And
I hated dealing with them.

I've been thinking about finding a better solution
to this issue since last spring.

I recently I came across this reference on
"Turnbuckle Stud Cotter Pins" and wanted to see if
anyone else was using this method, and thought it
might be a good topic.

It is such a great method, and yet I've never
seen anyone using it. I'm going to make up a bunch
of these next year.


******************************************
Source: Tracy, "Better Boat" Vol 9, pg 13.

Turnbuckle-stud cotter pins are tough to install,
because you have to bend them back so far to keep
them from gouging passersby. And even then you
have to tape over the ends. A much cleaner method
involves stainless steeel TIG (tungsten inert gas)
welding rod. Its a flux-free stainless rod. Ask
for 1/16 or 3/32-inch (1.6 mm or 2.4 mm) diameter
(depending on the turnbuckle size) heliarc welding
rod, type 304 or 316. To make a TIG cotter, bend
one end of the rod to get and "L' shape. The bar
of the L needs to be about 1-1/2 inches longer than
the diameter of the turnbuckle stud. Insert the bar
into the top cotter hole, mark where the rod passes
the bottom cotter hole, then take the rod out and
bend it at the mark. Cut the lower leg so it's the
same length as the upper, making a "C" shape, then
file any sharp edges off. To install the cotter,
insert the "C" into the cotter holes. Using a pair
of pliers, bend the tips of the rods 90 degrees
towards each other. Finish by bending the rods
together at the studs, so the end roll inside, out
of traffic. No tape is needed--and they look great.


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I tried to sketch the shape above. The idea is one of
these TIG fabricated cotter-pins replaces two normal
or two ringy-ding cotter pins and does not protrude
outside the turnbuckle.

I like the fact idea very much. However, I wonder if
it still might be wise to tape off the turnbuckle to
prevent snags around the threaded part of the turnbuckle.
If you often need to add and subtract pre-bend to your
rig for heavy and light air, then tape would just get
in the way.

I also like turnbuckles with lock nuts. But it is
expensive to change over from one type to the other.
I've used these lock-nut type turnbuckles without tape,
and while dousing, I've torn many spinnakers when it
was unclear how it happened. I suspect in some cases
these spinnakers snagged on the exposed threaded portion
of a shroud turnbuckle.

Some one-design boats use brackets to secure a pair of
turnbuckles together. I like the fact these can be
released and adjusted quickly, but wonder if they would
tend to snag a spinnaker also. Has anyone used these?

Bart Senior


DSK wrote

N1EE wrote:

What's the best cotter pin type to secure
a turnbuckle?

I like to use an oversized ring type cotter pin. They still have to be
taped over (it's a commonly heard myth that cotter rings won't snag
lines) but they are easier to use and have longer useful life. Some
people I sail with use safety-pin style cotter pins. These are fine
but I think they are more obtrusive.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
''leave some meat on the bone next time.''

I thought Jon was a vegan.

Max

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"Donal" wrote in message



"Maxprop" wrote in message

"Donal" wrote in message

His wife reads the ng, huh?

Not any longer. Two days of it and she remarked, "What a bunch of
worthless
assholes." Of course she meant that in the nicest possible way.

A shrewd woman, indeed! I bet that she has never been involved in a car
crash?

Only with me driving.

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
''leave some meat on the bone next time.''

I thought Jon was a vegan.

No, San Franciscan.........

Seahag

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No. I'm just a techno geek.

"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
''leave some meat on the bone next time.''

I thought Jon was a vegan.

No, San Franciscan.........

Seahag

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katysails wrote:

Martin conjectured:
On the other hand if you grind bits of cattle and feed them
to cattle, does that not make the cattle into carnivorers?

Cannibals.
--

Wouldn't that be canniBULLS?

Cheers
Marty

Maybe cannicows? Sounds like a new dish from Kraft, "New on your
grocery store shelf in easy open containers, "Can-o-Cow".

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Martin pulled this groaner: Wouldn't that be canniBULLS?

ugh

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Donal" wrote in message
A shrewd woman, indeed! I bet that she has never been involved in a car
crash?

Only with me driving.


You wimp! You're a disgrace!



Regards


Donal
--

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"Donal" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in message

"Donal" wrote in message
A shrewd woman, indeed! I bet that she has never been involved in a
car
crash?

Only with me driving.


You wimp! You're a disgrace!


Probably.

Max

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"Martin Baxter" wrote:

Maybe cannicows? Sounds like a new dish from Kraft, "New on your
grocery store shelf in easy open containers, "Can-o-Cow".

Makes a great snack on crackers with a little squirty cheese!

Seahag

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Seahag wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote:

Maybe cannicows? Sounds like a new dish from Kraft, "New on your
grocery store shelf in easy open containers, "Can-o-Cow".

Makes a great snack on crackers with a little squirty cheese!

Seahag

Shh, Scotty is going to go bonkers looking for it at the 7-11.

Cheers
Marty

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Seahag wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote:

Maybe cannicows? Sounds like a new dish from Kraft, "New on your
grocery store shelf in easy open containers, "Can-o-Cow".


Makes a great snack on crackers with a little squirty cheese!


Oh not the squirty cheese thing again! It's not fair, we are the worlds
largest cheese exporter per cow (?) and yet can't get squirty cheese!

Cheers

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MC moaned: =20
It's not fair, we are the worlds=20
largest cheese exporter per cow (?) and yet can't get squirty cheese!

You want some? We could send you some.

--=20
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katysails wrote:

MC moaned:
It's not fair, we are the worlds
largest cheese exporter per cow (?) and yet can't get squirty cheese!

You want some? We could send you some.


I don't think it would get through agriculatural inspection... Tell you
what, when I'm next in the states (next month) I'll look for some. Where
and what brand do you recommend?

Cheers

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MC stated:=20
I don't think it would get through agricultural inspection... Tell you=20
what, when I'm next in the states (next month) I'll look for some. Where =

and what brand do you recommend
--=20

Agricultural??? WHy would you think squirty cheese would be an =
agricultural product? It's plastic. As far as recommending a brand, I =
don't eat the stuff. In fact, I don't think I've ever had the =
"privilege" of eating squirty cheese. I only eat cheese that originated =
in a cow, preferably of Michigan or Wisconsin descent.
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"Seahag" wrote

Maybe cannicows? Sounds like a new dish from Kraft, "New on your
grocery store shelf in easy open containers, "Can-o-Cow".

Makes a great snack on crackers with a little squirty cheese!

As does everything.

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I've already mailed a can to you. Ignore the fuse sticking out the one end.

Scotty

"MC" wrote in message
...


katysails wrote:

MC moaned:
It's not fair, we are the worlds
largest cheese exporter per cow (?) and yet can't get squirty cheese!

You want some? We could send you some.


I don't think it would get through agriculatural inspection... Tell you
what, when I'm next in the states (next month) I'll look for some. Where
and what brand do you recommend?

Cheers