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Scott Vernon January 9th 04 12:33 AM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
better how?


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
better than?


Your boat. Fill in Mac26X, Hunter, Coronado, Bayliner and Irwin.

RB



J Bard January 9th 04 05:14 AM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 

Got it. Makes sense; I kept a larger anchor forward due to a bad back, but
it's used rarely enough ....and it did go on the second year I had the
Pearson ; hard to know if it caused the bow beng down but it must have added
to the issue ; 'll try moving this around come spring . Many thanks - -


"MC" wrote in message
...
Adding weight at the ends of a boat loses windward power especially. In
general, when going to windward the boat rises and falls faster and more
often and each time the weight is lifted, an equivalent amount of energy
is lost from forward drive. Energy is also lost as the bows bury deeper
due to the extra momentum driving the bow down as she falls. Large
weights (e.g. the weight of a person on a 40' boat) at the bow and stern
promote "hobby horsing" (where the pitching is extreme compared to
forward progress). For that reason, all performance boats store their
heavy gear as near the CG as possible. One of the goals of fast boat
design is to minimise energy loss associated with pitching and this idea
was the basis of the reverse transom -which help reduce mass associated
with at a broad (fast) stern.

I suggest a single anchor at the bow and if another is needed, hang it
near the stern. There it will be most useful for fore and aft anchoring
or kedging off primary winches as well as being within easy reach of the
'safe' cockpit crew. A spare should be kept below away from the ends.

Cheers MC

J Bard wrote:

I read that with interest, MC and I'm surpirsed and happy to hear it;
could you expand on that please ? 150 lbls could have that much an

effect
?

"MC" wrote in message
...

For a 40' boat adding 150 pounds at the bow is going to make sailing to
windward in a sea very slower and harder. I suggest he should have his
second anchor ready to deploy near the _stern_.

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:


"J Bard" wrote in message


ink.net...

My next slip neighbor has a P 40 and is fixing to cruise the world
leaving here in about a week. He has the same problem. But he added a
anchor pulpit and 2 heavy anchors on the bow, chain, ect. Seem just
150 + pounds sticking out forward the deck was enough to do it. He's
putting on a monitor wind vien and a windmill gen this week and hope
that will level him out.

The Pearsons are such nimble boats it's suprising how little weight
can affect it's water line. I'm suprised Bobbys P-30 did not capsize
when he stepped aboard.

Joe
MSV RedCloud






A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches. A friend

suggested
gelcoat leaks leading to water saturated fiberglass - another

suggested

that

even if the front of the boat was waterlogged , the extra weight of


whatever

the front hull could hold would not be enough to bring the whole boat


down

in front .
Any other Pearson owners out there with knowledge of this ? I don't


think

I have enough in front to do this; I did add a roller fuller and a


slightly

oversized anchor (kept on the pulpit) but I doubt this was enough ..

Any way to get a reading on the hull for "waterloggedness" ?







Bobsprit January 9th 04 01:26 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
better how?

Fill in Mac26X, Hunter, Coronado, Bayliner and Irwin.


The Hunter, Coronado and Irwin are all built better and will probably sail
better. The Mac26X is worth far more, enough to buy a good boat with change to
spare. The Siedleman may be on par with a Bayliner Bucaneer. On the other hand
the Bucaneer build quality was at least stable for what it was, while your
builder pushed more lemons than the Country Time factory.

RB

RB

Scott Vernon January 9th 04 02:57 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
The fat blob of jealousy rears it's ugly head once again and cries....

..


The Hunter, Coronado and Irwin are all built better and will probably sail
better. The Mac26X is worth far more, enough to buy a good boat with

change to
spare. The Siedleman may be on par with a Bayliner Bucaneer. On the other

hand
the Bucaneer build quality was at least stable for what it was, while your
builder pushed more lemons than the Country Time factory.

RB

RB



Martin Baxter January 9th 04 05:21 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
Scott Vernon wrote:

The fat blob of jealousy rears it's ugly head once again and cries....


You forgot ignorance about boats, remember this is the guy that asked about
a "Chrome Anchor", or more recently didn't realize that using turnbuckles on
a vessel might involve the use of cotter pins, don't forget he didn't know the
difference between VHF and Marine SSB sets, or the proper procedure for using the
former, the list goes on ad nauseum.

Cheers
Marty

Bobsprit January 9th 04 05:55 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
The fat blob of jealousy rears it's ugly head once again and cries....

Calm your wife down for once!


RB

Bobsprit January 9th 04 05:56 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
You forgot ignorance about boats, remember this is the guy that asked about
a "Chrome Anchor", or more recently didn't realize that using turnbuckles on
a vessel might involve the use of cotter pins, don't forget he didn't know the
difference between VHF and Marine SSB sets, or the proper procedure for using
the
former, the list goes on ad nauseum.


Wow, Marty...thats a lot of lying! Congrats!


RB

Jonathan Ganz January 9th 04 07:36 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
So you deny wanting a chrome anchor???

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You forgot ignorance about boats, remember this is the guy that asked

about
a "Chrome Anchor", or more recently didn't realize that using turnbuckles

on
a vessel might involve the use of cotter pins, don't forget he didn't know

the
difference between VHF and Marine SSB sets, or the proper procedure for

using
the
former, the list goes on ad nauseum.


Wow, Marty...thats a lot of lying! Congrats!


RB




Jonathan Ganz January 9th 04 09:25 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
Oh my...

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:36:49 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

So you deny wanting a chrome anchor???


Why would he want one? He's already GOT one.

BB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You forgot ignorance about boats, remember this is the guy that asked

about
a "Chrome Anchor", or more recently didn't realize that using

turnbuckles
on
a vessel might involve the use of cotter pins, don't forget he didn't

know
the
difference between VHF and Marine SSB sets, or the proper procedure for

using
the
former, the list goes on ad nauseum.


Wow, Marty...thats a lot of lying! Congrats!


RB






Bobsprit January 9th 04 09:57 PM

A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches...
 
So you deny wanting a chrome anchor???

Yup. I meant stainless steel.

RB


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