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I read that with interest, MC and I'm surpirsed and happy to hear it;
could you expand on that please ? 150 lbls could have that much an effect
?

"MC" wrote in message
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For a 40' boat adding 150 pounds at the bow is going to make sailing to
windward in a sea very slower and harder. I suggest he should have his
second anchor ready to deploy near the _stern_.

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:

"J Bard" wrote in message

ink.net...

My next slip neighbor has a P 40 and is fixing to cruise the world
leaving here in about a week. He has the same problem. But he added a
anchor pulpit and 2 heavy anchors on the bow, chain, ect. Seem just
150 + pounds sticking out forward the deck was enough to do it. He's
putting on a monitor wind vien and a windmill gen this week and hope
that will level him out.

The Pearsons are such nimble boats it's suprising how little weight
can affect it's water line. I'm suprised Bobbys P-30 did not capsize
when he stepped aboard.

Joe
MSV RedCloud





A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches. A friend suggested
gelcoat leaks leading to water saturated fiberglass - another suggested

that
even if the front of the boat was waterlogged , the extra weight of

whatever
the front hull could hold would not be enough to bring the whole boat

down
in front .
Any other Pearson owners out there with knowledge of this ? I don't

think
I have enough in front to do this; I did add a roller fuller and a

slightly
oversized anchor (kept on the pulpit) but I doubt this was enough ..

Any way to get a reading on the hull for "waterloggedness" ?




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Adding weight at the ends of a boat loses windward power especially. In
general, when going to windward the boat rises and falls faster and more
often and each time the weight is lifted, an equivalent amount of energy
is lost from forward drive. Energy is also lost as the bows bury deeper
due to the extra momentum driving the bow down as she falls. Large
weights (e.g. the weight of a person on a 40' boat) at the bow and stern
promote "hobby horsing" (where the pitching is extreme compared to
forward progress). For that reason, all performance boats store their
heavy gear as near the CG as possible. One of the goals of fast boat
design is to minimise energy loss associated with pitching and this idea
was the basis of the reverse transom -which help reduce mass associated
with at a broad (fast) stern.

I suggest a single anchor at the bow and if another is needed, hang it
near the stern. There it will be most useful for fore and aft anchoring
or kedging off primary winches as well as being within easy reach of the
'safe' cockpit crew. A spare should be kept below away from the ends.

Cheers MC

J Bard wrote:

I read that with interest, MC and I'm surpirsed and happy to hear it;
could you expand on that please ? 150 lbls could have that much an effect
?

"MC" wrote in message
...

For a 40' boat adding 150 pounds at the bow is going to make sailing to
windward in a sea very slower and harder. I suggest he should have his
second anchor ready to deploy near the _stern_.

Cheers MC

Joe wrote:


"J Bard" wrote in message


ink.net...

My next slip neighbor has a P 40 and is fixing to cruise the world
leaving here in about a week. He has the same problem. But he added a
anchor pulpit and 2 heavy anchors on the bow, chain, ect. Seem just
150 + pounds sticking out forward the deck was enough to do it. He's
putting on a monitor wind vien and a windmill gen this week and hope
that will level him out.

The Pearsons are such nimble boats it's suprising how little weight
can affect it's water line. I'm suprised Bobbys P-30 did not capsize
when he stepped aboard.

Joe
MSV RedCloud






A 1972 Pearson 30' who's bow is down about 2 inches. A friend suggested
gelcoat leaks leading to water saturated fiberglass - another suggested


that

even if the front of the boat was waterlogged , the extra weight of


whatever

the front hull could hold would not be enough to bring the whole boat


down

in front .
Any other Pearson owners out there with knowledge of this ? I don't


think

I have enough in front to do this; I did add a roller fuller and a


slightly

oversized anchor (kept on the pulpit) but I doubt this was enough ..

Any way to get a reading on the hull for "waterloggedness" ?





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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
Especially if it has a diesel.


You lost me here Scotty, please explain.

Joe


SV

"MC" wrote...
I suggest he should have his
second anchor ready to deploy near the _stern_.

Cheers MC

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Jax used to claim that diesels were so unreliable , owners needed to keep an
emergency anchor at arms reach of the helm.

SV

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Especially if it has a diesel.


You lost me here Scotty, please explain.

Joe


SV

"MC" wrote...
I suggest he should have his
second anchor ready to deploy near the _stern_.

Cheers MC


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Jax has a Seidelmann? Are you sure?


Jax has/had an Irwin 32, which is a bit better...quite a bit better. Same as
the Endeavour 32.

RB


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I dunno. Neal used to work at Irwin, and says he used to put the keels
on crooked. That's how he ended up reading meters for a living.

Well, I've seen at least a few Irwins that were okay, so Neal didn't put ALL of
the keels on.

RB
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
Jax used to claim that diesels were so unreliable , owners needed to keep an
emergency anchor at arms reach of the helm.


Oh Ok, Jax is a weak heart mensa idiot who could not handle ASA stress.

Joe


SV

"Joe" wrote in message
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Especially if it has a diesel.


You lost me here Scotty, please explain.

Joe


SV

"MC" wrote...
I suggest he should have his
second anchor ready to deploy near the _stern_.

Cheers MC

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better than?


Your boat. Fill in Mac26X, Hunter, Coronado, Bayliner and Irwin.

RB
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So you *do* remember him.

"Joe" wrote ...
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Oh Ok, Jax is a weak heart mensa idiot who could not handle ASA stress.

Joe



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better than?

"Bobsprit" wrote


Jax has/had an Irwin 32, which is a bit better...quite a bit better. Same

as
the Endeavour 32.

RB


 
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