"Joe" wrote in message
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Donal said something like any sail boat over 18 foot is a yacht. And
if you sail a boat over 18 foot you can call yourself a Yachtie.

I said that "..in most parts of the world.." etc.

I believe that the term "yacht" has a different meaning in the USA.


I thought yacht has nothing to do with power or sail.


Over here it almost always refers to a sailing vessel. I am familiar with
the use of the term to describe large private motor boats. However, when I
hear the word "yacht", I immediately picture something that sails, and is
30-40 foot long.



I always thought of a yacht as something in the 100 footer range owned
by someone like Mr. Thrump, with a similar attitude. Something only
the super rich have as a plush toy complete with crew.

That isn't the accepted use of the word on this side of the Atlantic.

Here is the definition from Chambers:-

yacht italicyot, n orig/italic a light fast-sailing vessel; a sailing,
steam-powered, etc vessel elegantly fitted out for pleasure trips or
racing.......



The second part of the definition agrees with your understanding. However,
the first definition is the commonly used one over here.






Has Donal cheapened the meaning, or was my vision to lofty.

Neither. The word has different meanings on either side of the Atlantic.



And when does a boat become a ship? And could that have somethig to do
with defining a yacht?


Good question. I haven't a clue.



Regards


Donal
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Over here the definition is the same, but I have never heard anyone refer to
their vessel as a "yacht". You regularly see the term in print,"yacht:"
brokers, "yacht" manufacturers, "yacht" clubs etc. One comes immediately to
mind, Catalina Yachts, their largest vessel is 50'. Probably more yacht-like
than 25', but most folks over here think in terms of much larger than 50'
when calling a vessel a "yacht". I know the term is technically correct, but
I think it's turning into the opposite of the term "gentleman", which
originally referred to a man's status as a landowner, has become a term
referring to a person's good manners. Gentleman has become *******ized,
yacht has become more exclusive.
John Cairns

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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I said that "..in most parts of the world.." etc.

I believe that the term "yacht" has a different meaning in the USA.


I thought yacht has nothing to do with power or sail.


Over here it almost always refers to a sailing vessel. I am familiar with
the use of the term to describe large private motor boats. However, when
I
hear the word "yacht", I immediately picture something that sails, and is
30-40 foot long.



I always thought of a yacht as something in the 100 footer range owned
by someone like Mr. Thrump, with a similar attitude. Something only
the super rich have as a plush toy complete with crew.

That isn't the accepted use of the word on this side of the Atlantic.

Here is the definition from Chambers:-

yacht italicyot, n orig/italic a light fast-sailing vessel; a
sailing,
steam-powered, etc vessel elegantly fitted out for pleasure trips or
racing.......



The second part of the definition agrees with your understanding.
However,
the first definition is the commonly used one over here.






Has Donal cheapened the meaning, or was my vision to lofty.

Neither. The word has different meanings on either side of the Atlantic.



And when does a boat become a ship? And could that have somethig to do
with defining a yacht?


Good question. I haven't a clue.



Regards


Donal
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"John Cairns" wrote in message
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Over here the definition is the same, but I have never heard anyone refer
to
their vessel as a "yacht".

Over here, anybody with an 18 foot+ sailing vessel will call it a yacht.
That's why there are no conotations attached to the term.

Regards


Donal
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And over here, there are millions of small vessels, thus the generally
accepted definition of a yacht being a very large vessel.
John Cairns
"Donal" wrote in message
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"John Cairns" wrote in message
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Over here the definition is the same, but I have never heard anyone
refer
to
their vessel as a "yacht".

Over here, anybody with an 18 foot+ sailing vessel will call it a yacht.
That's why there are no conotations attached to the term.

Regards


Donal
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This is really hard work!

There are probably millions of of small vessels over here as well. The
term "yacht" has nothing to do with the quantity of boats.

I get the impression that if somebody in the US claimed to have a "yacht",
that he would be boasting. When I say that I have a yacht, I am not
boasting. OTOH, if I claimed that I had a "motor yacht" - then I would be
boasting.




Regards


Donal
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"John Cairns" wrote in message
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And over here, there are millions of small vessels, thus the generally
accepted definition of a yacht being a very large vessel.
John Cairns
"Donal" wrote in message
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"John Cairns" wrote in message
news
Over here the definition is the same, but I have never heard anyone
refer
to
their vessel as a "yacht".

Over here, anybody with an 18 foot+ sailing vessel will call it a
yacht.
That's why there are no conotations attached to the term.

Regards


Donal
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"elegantly fitted out" is a requirement to be a yacht.

Bart

"Donal" wrote

yacht italicyot, n orig/italic a light fast-sailing vessel; a sailing,
steam-powered, etc vessel elegantly fitted out for pleasure trips or
racing.......

If you have to ask...then it's a boat.

--
The Adventure Lies In The Journey Not The Destination
"N1EE" wrote in message
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"elegantly fitted out" is a requirement to be a yacht.

Bart

"Donal" wrote

yacht italicyot, n orig/italic a light fast-sailing vessel; a
sailing,
steam-powered, etc vessel elegantly fitted out for pleasure trips or
racing.......

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
"elegantly fitted out" is a requirement to be a yacht.

Not over here, it isn't!

Honestly.


Regards


Donal
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Bart

"Donal" wrote

yacht italicyot, n orig/italic a light fast-sailing vessel; a
sailing,
steam-powered, etc vessel elegantly fitted out for pleasure trips or
racing.......