(Joe) wrote in message . com...
"Donal" wrote in message ...
" Yea did it all the time carrying 100 passengers and half a million
dollars of tools, everyday. This time of year is the worst on the
Mississippi delta. But like I said Ive ran south and SW pass of the
mississippi in fog so thick you could cut it with a knife. Had to-the
helicopter could not fly. And I wasent farting around at 4 knots, we
usually ran at 25-30 knots.

No Coll Regs in your part of the world, huh?

Yes we have col regs and I obeyed them. Why do you ask. Is it because
of the speed we were running?

This is a sister ship off one of the boat I ran on the mississippi
servicing rigs in the mississippi canyon area :
http://www.carlmaples.com/oil_field_...UTF-8%26sa%3DG

Thats the Big Thunder, I worked boats called the Thunder Cloud, and
Thunder Storm. All the Thunder boat had a thunder names and were out
of Morgan City LA., thunder bolt, thunder chief, thunder

All fast boats and well equipt to run in peasoup. Had to 3 months a
year.

So again Im asking you why you asked about the colregs?

Joe
MSV RedCloud













Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket?

Plotting is a major part of the test

But whats important is we had to do it everyday for real, and you
better be able to tune in a radar to pick up logs, perows, and plywood
hunk of **** boats unless you want some insane coonass to put a few 30
30 shells thru your wheelhouse.



I picked up a 2 gallon paint tin on my radar once. The visibility was about
2 feet, (or maybe 50 yards), and only a third of the can was sticking above
the water. The gain was set to "auto". Isn't modern technology a
wonderful thing?

With 50 yards visibility you should have no problem.



Regards


Donal
--

Joe

Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
(Joe) wrote in message . com...
"Donal" wrote in message ...
" Yea did it all the time carrying 100 passengers and half a million
dollars of tools, everyday. This time of year is the worst on the
Mississippi delta. But like I said Ive ran south and SW pass of the
mississippi in fog so thick you could cut it with a knife. Had to-the
helicopter could not fly. And I wasent farting around at 4 knots, we
usually ran at 25-30 knots.

No Coll Regs in your part of the world, huh?

Yes we have col regs and I obeyed them. Why do you ask. Is it because
of the speed we were running?

This is a sister ship off one of the boat I ran on the mississippi
servicing rigs in the mississippi canyon area :

http://www.carlmaples.com/oil_field_...UTF-8%26sa%3DG

Thats the Big Thunder, I worked boats called the Thunder Cloud, and
Thunder Storm. All the Thunder boat had a thunder names and were out
of Morgan City LA., thunder bolt, thunder chief, thunder

All fast boats and well equipt to run in peasoup. Had to 3 months a
year.

So again Im asking you why you asked about the colregs?

Joe
MSV RedCloud













Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket?

Plotting is a major part of the test

But whats important is we had to do it everyday for real, and you
better be able to tune in a radar to pick up logs, perows, and plywood
hunk of **** boats unless you want some insane coonass to put a few 30
30 shells thru your wheelhouse.



I picked up a 2 gallon paint tin on my radar once. The visibility was about
2 feet, (or maybe 50 yards), and only a third of the can was sticking above
the water. The gain was set to "auto". Isn't modern technology a
wonderful thing?

With 50 yards visibility you should have no problem.



Regards


Donal
--

Joe

"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.

Joe
MSV RedCloud




S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
(Joe) wrote in message . com...
"Donal" wrote in message ...
" Yea did it all the time carrying 100 passengers and half a million
dollars of tools, everyday. This time of year is the worst on the
Mississippi delta. But like I said Ive ran south and SW pass of the
mississippi in fog so thick you could cut it with a knife. Had to-the
helicopter could not fly. And I wasent farting around at 4 knots, we
usually ran at 25-30 knots.

No Coll Regs in your part of the world, huh?

Yes we have col regs and I obeyed them. Why do you ask. Is it because
of the speed we were running?

This is a sister ship off one of the boat I ran on the mississippi
servicing rigs in the mississippi canyon area :

http://www.carlmaples.com/oil_field_...UTF-8%26sa%3DG

Thats the Big Thunder, I worked boats called the Thunder Cloud, and
Thunder Storm. All the Thunder boat had a thunder names and were out
of Morgan City LA., thunder bolt, thunder chief, thunder

All fast boats and well equipt to run in peasoup. Had to 3 months a
year.

So again Im asking you why you asked about the colregs?

Joe
MSV RedCloud













Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket?

Plotting is a major part of the test

But whats important is we had to do it everyday for real, and you
better be able to tune in a radar to pick up logs, perows, and plywood
hunk of **** boats unless you want some insane coonass to put a few 30
30 shells thru your wheelhouse.



I picked up a 2 gallon paint tin on my radar once. The visibility was about
2 feet, (or maybe 50 yards), and only a third of the can was sticking above
the water. The gain was set to "auto". Isn't modern technology a
wonderful thing?

With 50 yards visibility you should have no problem.



Regards


Donal
--

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not
unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!




I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.


That is really scary!

Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not
unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?




I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.


That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.

Regards,

Joe

Regards


Donal
--

Joe,

You're always in a fog.

S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not
unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?




I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.


That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.

Regards,

Joe

Regards


Donal
--

"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
Joe,

You're always in a fog.


Not so! But if I were, I could still do a job. Unlike you and Donal.
My boat would be employed while your would be let go first. I would
study and perfect my skills at getting the job done safely, while you
would be dead in the water afraid to move.

Joe






S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not
unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?




I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.


That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.

Regards,

Joe

Regards


Donal
--

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe
to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a
moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?

Are you really claiming that it is easy to avoid hitting a tree trunk at 25
kts? Are you saying that you think that it is easier to miss a buoy at 25
kts than at 4 kts??

Pull the other one, Joe -- I put some bells on it, just for you.



That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.


Well, these days it is easy to land a plane. They land themselves.
Fog has nothing at all to do with landing a modern aircraft.



Regards


Donal
--

Hey Donal ..... he's not a "yachtie"
Hey Joe ..... There's a big difference between yachts and workboats and
their operation. You're trying to argue a totally different "mind set"
and it doesn't work.

In the end, you're both generally correct, but for different reasons.

otn

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
om...

"Donal" wrote in message

...

"Joe" wrote in message
e.com...

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe

to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a

moonlit

night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!


What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?


Are you really claiming that it is easy to avoid hitting a tree trunk at 25
kts? Are you saying that you think that it is easier to miss a buoy at 25
kts than at 4 kts??

Pull the other one, Joe -- I put some bells on it, just for you.



That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.



Well, these days it is easy to land a plane. They land themselves.
Fog has nothing at all to do with landing a modern aircraft.



Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe
to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a
moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?

Are you really claiming that it is easy to avoid hitting a tree trunk at 25
kts?

Yes, if you see it on radar a mile ahead of you, its not a problem. I
will admit Ive struck enough submerged logs the the owner of one
crewboat I ran hung so many destroyed propellers on his beach house
that he named it the broken wheel ranch. Thats just part of the job
and should be expected on a high speed boat running the rivers of LA.

Are you saying that you think that it is easier to miss a buoy at 25
kts than at 4 kts??

Its very easy to miss a bouy if you can see it on radar, and most
bouys and day shapes are designed to be seen on radar, big suprise
huh? If you get really good at radar you learn the ranges for the
ports you run. We had color radars on the MV Comet I ran and you could
assign diffrent colors for the height of objects. So lining up the
ranges was a piece of cake. You do know what range marker are huh?
Also when you came into a big field full of rigs you knew by the color
assigned to the rig and knew which one you should be going to.



Pull the other one, Joe -- I put some bells on it, just for you.



That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.


Well, these days it is easy to land a plane. They land themselves.
Fog has nothing at all to do with landing a modern aircraft.

Same thing on a modern vessel, I quit working boats 10+ years ago Donal and with the advancement of things like radar,FLIR and gps plotters it got to be a 100 times easier today.

Joe


Regards


Donal
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