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Simple,

If my Jaw is the hull then the Keel has to be hooked to-----Your
anology;

Get your logic straight before you dig your hole any deeper

OT

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I guess that is why Jax checks his rigging with a Violin Bow G

Ot

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click on "see demo"
http://www.cookhammer.com/new/home.html

I'm sure this can be used to prove any point you want ...

Captain William Collin, Master of the barque Grimenza wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:12:26 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

Oh, pay attention next time.
The lead hammer will have slightly less

Only if it deforms


Captain William Collin, Master of the barque Grimenza wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:07:44 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

what rock?

anvil then....


Captain William Collin, Master of the barque Grimenza wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:01:58 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

Simp's correct Thom. Think of the rock as the hammer. Try hitting
an
anvil 100 times with a 20lb steel sledge, then do it with a 22lb
plastic
or
rubber hammer.

Scotty

Then try hitting it with a lead hammer. the same force is applied to
the rock.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:14:41 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

First the idiot Oz and now you. Oh well . . .

Lord but you people are daft! Allow me to do a little
experiment on your jaw, you silly old fart. Let me
punch you in the jaw with my fist in a boxing glove.

Then, when you regain consciousness, and rub
your sore jaw allow me to hit it again my balled
up fist without the glove. Whereas all you lost
with the fist in glove is consciousness what you
lose with my balled up fist is consciousness
plus a broken jaw.

Your hull is your jaw. The lead keel is my fist in a
glove. The cast iron keel is my balled up fist.
Understand now you putz?

You too, Oz you weenie.

S.Simon


Sorry Mr. Simon but boxing gloves are to protect the fighters hands.
They do nothing to soften the effects. Modern fighters can hit harder
with the gloves without breaking their hands than bareknuckle
fighters.

Old bareknuckle fighters used to push, shove and wrestle a lot. Most
blows were to the body.

Ask on rec.sport.boxing if you wish.

Mark E. Williams

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"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message ...

Sorry Mr. Simon but boxing gloves are to protect the fighters hands.
They do nothing to soften the effects. Modern fighters can hit harder
with the gloves without breaking their hands than bareknuckle
fighters.

Old bareknuckle fighters used to push, shove and wrestle a lot. Most
blows were to the body.

Ask on rec.sport.boxing if you wish.

Mark E. Williams


You, sir, are a knucklehead! Boxing gloves were required
to keep boxers from killing each other regularly. An
ungloved hand can and will do much more damage than
a gloved hand. The ungloved hand transfers much more
pounds per square inch force than a gloved hand. The
ungloved hand causes much greater bone breakage of
the nose, jaw and occipital orbit than the gloved hand.
The bare hand causes much greater and severe cuts
than does the gloved hand.

I don't have to go to some lame boxing newsgroup
frequented by punch-drunk retards like Mike Tyson
to know that the laws of physics apply in boxing as
in everything else including the fact that a lead keel
softens the blow to the hull just as a boxing glove
softens the blow to any fool's head who attempts
to argue with me.

S.Simon

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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:54:24 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:




"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message ...

Sorry Mr. Simon but boxing gloves are to protect the fighters hands.
They do nothing to soften the effects. Modern fighters can hit harder
with the gloves without breaking their hands than bareknuckle
fighters.

Old bareknuckle fighters used to push, shove and wrestle a lot. Most
blows were to the body.

Ask on rec.sport.boxing if you wish.

Mark E. Williams


You, sir, are a knucklehead! Boxing gloves were required
to keep boxers from killing each other regularly. An
ungloved hand can and will do much more damage than
a gloved hand. The ungloved hand transfers much more
pounds per square inch force than a gloved hand. The
ungloved hand causes much greater bone breakage of
the nose, jaw and occipital orbit than the gloved hand.
The bare hand causes much greater and severe cuts
than does the gloved hand.

I don't have to go to some lame boxing newsgroup
frequented by punch-drunk retards like Mike Tyson
to know that the laws of physics apply in boxing as
in everything else including the fact that a lead keel
softens the blow to the hull just as a boxing glove
softens the blow to any fool's head who attempts
to argue with me.

S.Simon


Ah, yes. Physics. As in thin finger bones smashing aginst thick
skull bones.
Theory aside, old-time bareknuckle fighters punched almost exclusively
to the body.

Mark E. Williams

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Simple Simon wrote:
Hey mister toy tugboat skipper, what makes you
so jealous of me? Is it because you know with
your silly restored tugboat you really can't go
anywhere, do anything, or even manage to fool
yourself into thinking you are enjoying yourself?

Sorry to take so long to reply, I just sailed into cell phone range of
Ketchikan and got a connection. Yeah, I spend all my time moored to an
old engine block. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah

The only enjoyment you get out of your silly
vessel is satisfaction

A little jealousy of real sailors with real boats there Nil?


Real men such as those of us who live aboard
and cruise and voyage

Bwahahahahahahahaahahahahah Gimmme a break, harldy a man, certainly not
a sailor, and the only cruisng you do is on the net or riding your bike
past schoolyards hoping to score ...

Bwahahahahahahahaahahahah like I said before, a hazard to navigation
if you ever got loose of that mooring and a marine pollutant the rest of
the time.

Rick

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Simple Simon wrote:

The same principle applies to a lead keel.

Hazard to navigation, marine pollutant and now a confirmed idiot.

Geez, Nil, won't you ever quit climbing the moron ladder?

Rick

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Wrap your ass in lead and run that up on a reef.

Rick

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So you are trying to minimise damage to the reef? How kind of you.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Ever do any mechanic work? Have you ever used a brass
hammer to say align a crankshaft that is pinned and
pressed together? The brass hammer head deforms
while the crankshaft counterweight does not. Very
small movement of the counterweights can be attained
instead of the large, uncontrolled movement that would
knock the crankshaft out of alignment on the opposite
side of the spectrum.

This control and the fact the brass hammer is used because
it is soft and does not damage the structure of the crankshaft
as a steel hammer would is analogous to the forces applied
on the hull of a boat if its keel hits an unmovable object.

The same principle applies to a lead keel. The
mass of lead, of course, is the primary consideration
but the softness of the lead to cushion a blow is another
consideration and makes lead a superior material to
cast iron in addition the lead's extra mass.

It is hard for me to believe you've been in the yachting
field very long or done much reading to speak of without
knowing this very obvious and widely known fact.

S.Simon


Captain William Collin, Master of the barque Grimenza wrote in message ...

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:01:36 -0500, "Simple Simon"
scribbled thusly:


Captain William Collin, Master of the barque Grimenza wrote in message ...

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:08:21 -0500, "Simple Simon"
scribbled thusly:


Captain William Collin, Master of the barque Grimenza wrote in message ...

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:43:14 -0500, "Simple Simon"
scribbled thusly:


It's heavier but is it soft enough to cushion possible
impacts with the sea bottom? Since it is used to pierce
armor I've got a feeling it is pretty stout stuff.

S.Simon

Cushion?
WTF are you talking about?


You know, when a sailor runs into a rock or other
hard object on the bottom - maybe a coral head
it is said that lead, being soft, will cushion the
blow by deforming and absorbing some of the
force thus sparing the structure of the yacht.

S.Simon


Bwaaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!
Cappy that rates among the most idiotic things that you've ever
written!!


It did not originate with me but I can see the logic of it.

Your reaction, on the other hand, is illogical.

S.Simon


Cappy could you fill me in on how much cushioning I could expect from
say a 4 ton lump of solid lead and how it would achieve that
cushioning?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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You must be wrong 'cos SS says that hitting a reef withj a soft hammer
will do it less damge and I've seen expert mechanics use soft hammers
for the same purpose. I guess that's why Chiquitas keel is irony

Cheers MC

wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:49:09 +1100, "Captain William Collin, Master of the
barque Grimenza" wrote:


On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:48:26 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
scribbled thusly:


click on "see demo"
http://www.cookhammer.com/new/home.html

I'm sure this can be used to prove any point you want ...

Yep, the right alloy can do whatever you want.
Lead in keels is not designed to deform to lower ipact stress on hulls
though.



In fact, if Simon knew anything at all about boats, he would know that keels are
alloy, and antimony is added to make the lead LESS soft and malleable. Keels are
made from lead alloy because it is cheap, easily worked, long lasting, and heavy
material. It has nothing to do with shock absorption. Nothing.

BB

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Nope. SS is a lubber with no knowlege of such matters.

BB


Agreed! I admit I have no knowlege of such matters.

I do have knowledge of such matters, however.
Pretty sad when some putz claims I have no knowledge
when the putz can't even spell knowledge.

Bwahahahahahhahahahahha!

You assholes not only don't have enough knowledge
to spell knowledge but you also are too stupid to
understand a simple statement such as, "Because
lead is soft, when and if the keel strikes an immovable
object, this soft metal absorbs more force than a
hard metal does." It doesn't take a rocket scientist
to realize any and all force absorbed by the lead
keel is that much less force transmitted to the
hull and fastening hardware which translates
into added integrity of the hull/keel system as
a whole.

S.Simon

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Simple Simon wrote:

Your hull is your jaw. The lead keel is my fist

Your ass is your brain.