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katysails December 9th 03 02:27 AM

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Out of Baltimore just follow the trail of chicken bones from Steve's =
house.

Seahag

I thought he ate the bones, too...

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Seahag December 9th 03 02:58 AM

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katysails wrote:

Out of Baltimore just follow the trail of chicken bones from Steve's house.

Seahag

I thought he ate the bones, too...

Nah, after he sucks the marrow out at dinner he fills 'em with squirty
cheese as a snack on the way home.

Seahag





Scott Vernon December 9th 03 03:58 AM

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Now I see Neals' point about the nonsensical clucking of the women around
here. Sheesh!

SV


"Seahag" wrote in message
...

katysails wrote:

Out of Baltimore just follow the trail of chicken bones from Steve's

house.

Seahag

I thought he ate the bones, too...

Nah, after he sucks the marrow out at dinner he fills 'em with squirty
cheese as a snack on the way home.

Seahag






Thom Stewart December 9th 03 06:22 PM

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Yeah Donal,

Prop walk it is. Scott's Sidelminn has a pretty fine, cut away stern
and bow. The Prop walk of a 3-bladed prop will spin his hull off course
very easily. He would have compensation going forward with the prop wash
going over his rudder but in reverse a real problem. The flow from his
rudder would just be fed into the Prop and used for Prop walk.

By the way, that folding Prop in your garage, is it the same size as
your original Prop? On my boat I use a fixed 13x13 Std bladed and a
folding 13x13 with streamlined blades. The Folding outperforms the
fixed by a mile.except in reverse. I have to pop the RPM high enough to
open the blades and it sure does kick the stern over.

Another problem with the folding Props is sometimes there isn't enough
room between the end of the shaft and the rudder to let the blades fold.
If this is the case and racers want the folding prop, they must settle
for a smaller Prop. This may have been what happened with your Props.
That may be the reason Scotty is talking feathering.

Ole Thom


Marc December 9th 03 08:40 PM

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Tom, reread Scotty's original post. He is talking about a 3 bladed
FEATHERING prop. By definition, the blades are flat, symetrical and
reverse to the same pitch as forward. The great feature of a 3 bladed
feathering prop is 3 blade power in both directions and NO propwalk. I
have a 17" Feathering 3 blade PYI Maxprop on a fin keel boat. Zero
propwalk and it stops in its own length from 3 kn.



On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:22:17 -0800 (PST), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

Yeah Donal,

Prop walk it is. Scott's Sidelminn has a pretty fine, cut away stern
and bow. The Prop walk of a 3-bladed prop will spin his hull off course
very easily. He would have compensation going forward with the prop wash
going over his rudder but in reverse a real problem. The flow from his
rudder would just be fed into the Prop and used for Prop walk.

By the way, that folding Prop in your garage, is it the same size as
your original Prop? On my boat I use a fixed 13x13 Std bladed and a
folding 13x13 with streamlined blades. The Folding outperforms the
fixed by a mile.except in reverse. I have to pop the RPM high enough to
open the blades and it sure does kick the stern over.

Another problem with the folding Props is sometimes there isn't enough
room between the end of the shaft and the rudder to let the blades fold.
If this is the case and racers want the folding prop, they must settle
for a smaller Prop. This may have been what happened with your Props.
That may be the reason Scotty is talking feathering.

Ole Thom



Marc December 9th 03 08:43 PM

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Never Mind, Tom. I only read your last sentence after the fact.
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:22:17 -0800 (PST), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

Yeah Donal,

Prop walk it is. Scott's Sidelminn has a pretty fine, cut away stern
and bow. The Prop walk of a 3-bladed prop will spin his hull off course
very easily. He would have compensation going forward with the prop wash
going over his rudder but in reverse a real problem. The flow from his
rudder would just be fed into the Prop and used for Prop walk.

By the way, that folding Prop in your garage, is it the same size as
your original Prop? On my boat I use a fixed 13x13 Std bladed and a
folding 13x13 with streamlined blades. The Folding outperforms the
fixed by a mile.except in reverse. I have to pop the RPM high enough to
open the blades and it sure does kick the stern over.

Another problem with the folding Props is sometimes there isn't enough
room between the end of the shaft and the rudder to let the blades fold.
If this is the case and racers want the folding prop, they must settle
for a smaller Prop. This may have been what happened with your Props.
That may be the reason Scotty is talking feathering.

Ole Thom



Scott Vernon December 9th 03 08:48 PM

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Marc, reread Thoms' post. Especially the last line.


"Marc" wrote in message
...
Tom, reread Scotty's original post. He is talking about a 3 bladed
FEATHERING prop. By definition, the blades are flat, symetrical and
reverse to the same pitch as forward. The great feature of a 3 bladed
feathering prop is 3 blade power in both directions and NO propwalk. I
have a 17" Feathering 3 blade PYI Maxprop on a fin keel boat. Zero
propwalk and it stops in its own length from 3 kn.



On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:22:17 -0800 (PST), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

Yeah Donal,

Prop walk it is. Scott's Sidelminn has a pretty fine, cut away stern
and bow. The Prop walk of a 3-bladed prop will spin his hull off course
very easily. He would have compensation going forward with the prop wash
going over his rudder but in reverse a real problem. The flow from his
rudder would just be fed into the Prop and used for Prop walk.

By the way, that folding Prop in your garage, is it the same size as
your original Prop? On my boat I use a fixed 13x13 Std bladed and a
folding 13x13 with streamlined blades. The Folding outperforms the
fixed by a mile.except in reverse. I have to pop the RPM high enough to
open the blades and it sure does kick the stern over.

Another problem with the folding Props is sometimes there isn't enough
room between the end of the shaft and the rudder to let the blades fold.
If this is the case and racers want the folding prop, they must settle
for a smaller Prop. This may have been what happened with your Props.
That may be the reason Scotty is talking feathering.

Ole Thom




Donal December 9th 03 11:44 PM

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"Marc" wrote in message
...
Tom, reread Scotty's original post


Marc, I believe that Thom has been on boats for about 60 years.

I'm really impressed that you know so much more than he does. In future, I
shall rely on *you* for all serious sailing advice.





Regards


Donal
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John Cairns December 9th 03 11:50 PM

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Don't know how to tell you this Scott, but according to Dave Gerr NA, unless
you do a lot of motorsailing or just plain motoring, the folding prop is the
better choice, for one reason only. Less drag.
John Cairns
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
well, I wanted a 3 blade feathering, but what the hay, send me the 2

blader.

Scotty

"Donal" wrote
I've got a two bladed folding prop which sits in the garage





Scott Vernon December 10th 03 12:08 AM

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How smart can he be, he met with boob****.

SV

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Marc" wrote in message
...
Tom, reread Scotty's original post


Marc, I believe that Thom has been on boats for about 60 years.

I'm really impressed that you know so much more than he does. In future,

I
shall rely on *you* for all serious sailing advice.





Regards


Donal
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