Because there are all too many sailors, Booby for example,
who pretend to sail so they can think they are impressing
others viewing from a distance. Many are also ignorant
as to the COLREGS and think if they have a sail up they
are a sailboat and have the right of way over other traffic.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
If it's a wind up jenny why is it left flapping?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Light air performance? Gimme a break with that!

I bet NONE of these wannabe sailors around here
do anything in light air but crank up the motor.

I've yet to see any diesel sailboat sailing at one
or two knot. To the boat they use the iron jenny
with a wind-up jenny flapping in the apparent
breeze.

Unless you race, Mylar is not worth the money
and maintenance problems.

S.Simon


"Poppa Pimple" wrote in message hlink.net...

Superior light air performance. 40% amortized over the life of the sail is
zilch.
Also look at resale value.

Poppa

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
.. .

Why? I am not a racer, they cost about 40% more than dacron, what do I get
for my money?
"Poppa Pimple" wrote in message
arthlink.net...

Very much so.

Poppa


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
news
Well are they?

I don't know about you but if one can sail in it one
can also bathe in it.

S.Simon


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
It is clear
to me that you have never had the guts to go cruising..

Most people here like to bathe every day. Go cruising.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

from: http://www.baconsails.com/pokefaq.html


Sails of Mylar: Most racing headsails and some mains are now built of the plastic film known as Mylar. Early mylar sails have a very
limited life (1 season). Today’s Mylar sails are more durable. Examine mylar sails for extreme stress lines. You will usually find
delamination started along the stress lines. Now check the stress area near head and clew. If the stitch holes are elongated, the
sail is over-stressed. Next look for delamination. A few (2-3) small flakes can be patched. Sails showing these faults have no
resale value.


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
How the hell does a cruising sailor store a Mylar sail
on the boom without causing damage?

Not true. Hell, I know people who flake Kevlar mains on the boom.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Perhaps they are just lazy like Booby and DSK (who prefers to motor and
pollute everywhere)?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Because there are all too many sailors, Booby for example,
who pretend to sail so they can think they are impressing
others viewing from a distance. Many are also ignorant
as to the COLREGS and think if they have a sail up they
are a sailboat and have the right of way over other traffic.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

If it's a wind up jenny why is it left flapping?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Light air performance? Gimme a break with that!

I bet NONE of these wannabe sailors around here
do anything in light air but crank up the motor.

I've yet to see any diesel sailboat sailing at one
or two knot. To the boat they use the iron jenny
with a wind-up jenny flapping in the apparent
breeze.

Unless you race, Mylar is not worth the money
and maintenance problems.

S.Simon


"Poppa Pimple" wrote in message thlink.net...


Superior light air performance. 40% amortized over the life of the sail is
zilch.
Also look at resale value.

Poppa

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
.. .


Why? I am not a racer, they cost about 40% more than dacron, what do I get
for my money?
"Poppa Pimple" wrote in message
.earthlink.net...


Very much so.

Poppa


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
news

Well are they?

From: http://www.northsails.co.uk/media/articles/sailcare.htm



MYLAR

Sails made of Mylar film laminated to a polyester substrate provide good strength for their weight, but they are also relatively
fragile, so it's wise to:

1.. Never exceed your sail's recommended wind range;
2.. Never use a genoa that doesn't have spreader patches;
3.. Don't flog the sail unnecessarily;
4.. Don't overstretch the luff of a Mylar sail. Mylar sails need only a bit of luff tension to position the draft correctly.
Therefore, tension the halyard and Cunningham only enough to remove horizontal wrinkles from the luff. Mark the genoa halyard so you
don't over-tension it when coming into the leeward mark.
There are other precautions you should take with Mylar sails. Don't let any solvents (such as diesel fuel or cleaning agents) get on
them, because these will dissolve the glue and cause separation. Mylar film is sensitive to heat, so be sure not to let your sail
touch any part of the engine or even rest against an interior.



S.Simon

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
How the hell does a cruising sailor store a Mylar sail
on the boom without causing damage?

Not true. Hell, I know people who flake Kevlar mains on the boom.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Mylar has a memory, stupid.



How long does Mylar need to retain a form/shape/bend?

RB

From: http://www.sailingsource.com/neilpryde/manual/tips.htm

Storing sails
Very firm finished racing fabric should be rolled wherever possible, as folding will lead to creases which will not come out.
Laminated sails of Kevlar or Mylar can be left stowed in their sausage bags. Cruising sails should always be folded, or at least
stowed on the boom (in which case they must always be covered).

Do you even know what a sausage bag is? Yes, it is a long, thin bag
suitable for storing a rolled up sail. I think I have proven by these
links I have posted here how ignorant even you racers are about
sails.

S.Simon - knows much more than you might wish to think he does.


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
How the hell does a cruising sailor store a Mylar sail
on the boom without causing damage?

Not true. Hell, I know people who flake Kevlar mains on the boom.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

That is also true . . .


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Perhaps they are just lazy like Booby and DSK (who prefers to motor and
pollute everywhere)?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Because there are all too many sailors, Booby for example,
who pretend to sail so they can think they are impressing
others viewing from a distance. Many are also ignorant
as to the COLREGS and think if they have a sail up they
are a sailboat and have the right of way over other traffic.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

If it's a wind up jenny why is it left flapping?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Light air performance? Gimme a break with that!

I bet NONE of these wannabe sailors around here
do anything in light air but crank up the motor.

I've yet to see any diesel sailboat sailing at one
or two knot. To the boat they use the iron jenny
with a wind-up jenny flapping in the apparent
breeze.

Unless you race, Mylar is not worth the money
and maintenance problems.

S.Simon


"Poppa Pimple" wrote in message thlink.net...


Superior light air performance. 40% amortized over the life of the sail is
zilch.
Also look at resale value.

Poppa

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
.. .


Why? I am not a racer, they cost about 40% more than dacron, what do I get
for my money?
"Poppa Pimple" wrote in message
.earthlink.net...


Very much so.

Poppa


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
news

Well are they?

I don't know the technical details but I do know that
heat exacerbates the tendency of a roll of it wishing
to remain curled up. It is best to roll it loosely rather
than tightly. This is pretty much the case with most
any plastic.

S.Simon

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Mylar has a memory, stupid.



How long does Mylar need to retain a form/shape/bend?

RB

Woven plastic and sheet plastic have different
properties. Woven plastic does not have to bend,
it can flex along the weave. Duh!

S.Simon


Donals Dilemma wrote in message ...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:25:51 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

I don't know the technical details but I do know that
heat exacerbates the tendency of a roll of it wishing
to remain curled up. It is best to roll it loosely rather
than tightly. This is pretty much the case with most
any plastic.

S.Simon

Hmmmmmm now exactly what is Dacron....eh?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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