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Katysails hates my guts . . . She's useless and naive but she's not stupid. S.Simon "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I don't often find myself agreeing with you, Bobsprit but you're dead solid perfect with this one. We only disagree on two things: Politics and Katy. I think you waste time addressing her at all. Clearly she's here mainly for you. RB |
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A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been
crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
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You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of
Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Wow. I'll "answer" for my beliefs, says Donal. Like I said, Jesus never existed and religion is a sick and hateful thing. RB |
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Hey Nutsy,
If there was no Jesus, then how can you say he was a Fag? These are your statements. One of your statements is an untruth! It's up to you, Nutsy, which one is the LIE? I and the ASA List wait your reply Ole Thom |
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How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute
surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! Actually, TRUE Muslems accept other religions and profits, but still think their system is "superior." It's all very sad. The very idea of a god sounds so silly when spoke aloud, I'm always amazed that anyone could buy into it. The Greeks at least had some fun with their gods and it always cracks me up that each "faith" scoffs at the other...or murders the other. Religion is still are most primitive defect. RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Wow. I'll "answer" for my beliefs, says Donal. Like I said, Jesus never existed and religion is a sick and hateful thing. Proof that you're correct is Donal's statement that you'll answer for your beliefs. Katysails says similar things only she's more direct. She condemns people directly to hell. Donal is a bit more subtle but the underlying motivation is the same. Both Katysails and Donal delight in feeling superior to those they label heathens and delight in the fact that heathens will be punished. If this isn't the opposite of what Christians are supposed to be like then it's darned close to it. It proves you are right and they are dangerous, spiteful hypocrites brainwashed into hatred and bigotry by organized religion. S.Simon |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Wow. I'll "answer" for my beliefs, says Donal. OK. I cannot prove that. Like I said, Jesus never existed and religion is a sick and hateful thing. As I already stated, and as many of the regulars know, Jesus is an Historical **FACT**. Jesus existed. I *can* prove that. Regards Donal -- |
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Donal wrote: "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Wow. I'll "answer" for my beliefs, says Donal. OK. I cannot prove that. Like I said, Jesus never existed and religion is a sick and hateful thing. As I already stated, and as many of the regulars know, Jesus is an Historical **FACT**. Jesus existed. I *can* prove that. Really? Go on, I'm waiting. Cheers MC |
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Chris,
Before you hold up. "The Book" as the final Word, I hope you have read "The Book of Q", The Book of Thomas" Can you give us an explaination of the "Lost Years of Jesus" & all the other Lost Gospels Chris, it is only a story but you might find the "DeArcy Code" an interesting Read Ole Thom |
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Right on! Religion has done more to harm mankind than
any other single factor that anyone can name. Sometimes I wonder how much progress we would have made had we not been hampered by religion and this crazy concept of a God who gives a hoot about mankind. I fancy mankind would be out among the stars exploring them if they had only devoted their efforts to cooperation instead of hateful antagonism and destruction. The only rational and sane concept of a god is some unknown force that may or may not have been responsible for the Big Bang that started the time/space continuum. There is nothing more egotistical and foolish than the concept of a God who is interested in the personal habits of every living man, woman and child. It is beyond stupidity to think such nonsense. S.Simon "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! Actually, TRUE Muslems accept other religions and profits, but still think their system is "superior." It's all very sad. The very idea of a god sounds so silly when spoke aloud, I'm always amazed that anyone could buy into it. The Greeks at least had some fun with their gods and it always cracks me up that each "faith" scoffs at the other...or murders the other. Religion is still are most primitive defect. RB |
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As I already stated, and as many of the regulars know, Jesus is an
Historical **FACT**. With only texts as proof, you cannot prove beyond all doubt that the man existed. Historical texts claim many things that most sensible folk would call absurd. For all you know, there was a guy named J. E. Suss, who wrote a Sci Fi novel called The Bible. It's happened to L. Ron Hubbard. People believe in god because they simply can't accept death for themselves or loved ones. That's it. It's an utterly selfish belief system built around fear and large scale control of populations and money. They even train you to threaten those who question the system, so you'll say nasty things like "You'll answer for that." Have you never questioned your blind faith? Is it more important to you than truth? What kind of "god" would punish a person for thinking differently? "God" makes no sense on ANY level. RB |
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Jesus existed. I *can* prove that.
You found his home movies? You have his passport? I hope they're not just a bunch of historical texts less imaginative than Dr. Dolittle and the Secret Lake. RB |
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There is nothing
more egotistical and foolish than the concept of a God who is interested in the personal habits of every living man, woman and child. Religion is built on fear 1st and formost. The concept of one's own finale is too much for many to bear. "God" and "Heaven" along with faith is their escape system. Truly sad as we admire the beauty of a Rose, not only for it's shape and colour, but also for it's briefness. A pity that we can't learn to observe Human life in the same manner. Instead we fight and claw over imaginary imortality and battle toward a heaven that never was. Ironically we create microcosms of hell in the process. RB |
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Jesus existed. I *can* prove that.
Really? Go on, I'm waiting. Won't you look silly when he mosts a MPEG of Jesus sanding a Beneteau blister! RB |
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If there was no Jesus, then how can you say he was a Fag? These are your
statements. One of your statements is an untruth! It's up to you, Nutsy, which one is the LIE? I and the ASA List wait your reply I seriously doubt anyone awaits the reply. Thom, do you cling to the liferaft of gods and heavens? Or are you prepared to enjoy your final moments with no expectations of reawakening? RB |
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Chris ( Christ)
You're Using the bible about God owning the Universe. Your bible says he created Heaven and Earth in six days and rest on the seventh. Chris, everyone with a brain in an open mind knows the the Universe, right now at this very moment, is still a work in progress. DON'T QUOTE FROM A FALSE DOCUMENT! Ole Thom |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Won't you look silly when he posts a MPEG of Jesus sanding a Beneteau blister! Even Jesus isn't dumb enough to waste his time trying to repair a Beneteau. S.Simon |
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not in your heart. But he IS in the wallet and the gun.
RB Greetings, from the nice folks who brought you the Inquisition! Ahhh yes, of what faith were they? Bill, I shall endoeavor to meet you this summer...beware! RB |
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Regarding religion, I agree. It has no place among the educated.
Sorry if that offends people. Regarding God, however, that entity exists. One only has to look at a beautiful woman or the horizon at dawn or sunset to know that. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... Right on! Religion has done more to harm mankind than any other single factor that anyone can name. Sometimes I wonder how much progress we would have made had we not been hampered by religion and this crazy concept of a God who gives a hoot about mankind. I fancy mankind would be out among the stars exploring them if they had only devoted their efforts to cooperation instead of hateful antagonism and destruction. The only rational and sane concept of a god is some unknown force that may or may not have been responsible for the Big Bang that started the time/space continuum. There is nothing more egotistical and foolish than the concept of a God who is interested in the personal habits of every living man, woman and child. It is beyond stupidity to think such nonsense. S.Simon "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! Actually, TRUE Muslems accept other religions and profits, but still think their system is "superior." It's all very sad. The very idea of a god sounds so silly when spoke aloud, I'm always amazed that anyone could buy into it. The Greeks at least had some fun with their gods and it always cracks me up that each "faith" scoffs at the other...or murders the other. Religion is still are most primitive defect. RB |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Regarding religion, I agree. It has no place among the educated. Sorry if that offends people. Regarding God, however, that entity exists. One only has to look at a beautiful woman or the horizon at dawn or sunset to know that. That's very insightful considering you gays don't normally see beauty in women and are too wacked from the previous night's circle jerk to get up in time to see a sunrise . . . S.Simon |
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Chris
Sorry that is the "Devinci Code" must be my age! Ole Thom |
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I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree
that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
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And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational.
: not rational: as a (1) : not endowed with reason or understanding (2) : lacking usual or normal mental clarity or coherence b : not governed by or according to reason RB |
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I don't think blister boats were made 2000 years ago. Mind you there was
the Dead sea raft manufacturing company that made some reed baoats that sank in fresh water. Family records show my distant relatives acted as expert witnesses... Cheers MC Bobsprit wrote: Jesus existed. I *can* prove that. Really? Go on, I'm waiting. Won't you look silly when he mosts a MPEG of Jesus sanding a Beneteau blister! RB |
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He'd just wave his hands over and say the magic word.
Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Won't you look silly when he posts a MPEG of Jesus sanding a Beneteau blister! Even Jesus isn't dumb enough to waste his time trying to repair a Beneteau. S.Simon |
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Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct
name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
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Nutsy,
I damn well DON'T Know? Do You? They say they CAN prove Christ was killed by the Romans yet they can't even tell themselves what date that was. It is a different Date each year. They also don't know when he was born! Constantan declared Dec 25th, when he was still a Pagan. Constantan believed he was the rebirth of Mithra, Who was a virgin birth, who was resurrected a thousand year before Jesus and his birth was with the return of the sun (By the calendar of the day then) That was when he declared Christ was born. Constantan was a Sun worshipper This was 300 years after Jesus' death. Makes you wonder about the shining Star, doesn't it? No Nutsy, I don't know if Jesus was who the religious people say he was. That person was created some 300 years after the death of a Rabbi named Jesus, who was born a Jew, Lived a taught the Jewish religion, and died a Jew. He never, ever saw a Christian Church or taught anything but the Jewish Faith. Who knows what happens after death. I can't be worried about it and I'm getting pretty damn close to the time!!! I have to accept that a force (God) Granted me life at birth and also granted me death at the same time. We traveled thru life together step by step as friends. Death has always been within hailing distnce to bring me relief when ever life was no longer bareable. This I can believe and except. I'm at Peace with this. AND; "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!!!" Ole Thom P/S Nutsy, I don't believe Jesus was a fag, I believe Mary Magdelane was his push!! SO THERE! |
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Death has
always been within hailing distnce to bring me relief when ever life was no longer bareable. This I can believe and except. I'm at Peace with this. Good for you, Thom. We are all within hailing distance. But so long as you can handle a line, do stick around. Capt RB |
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Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct
name???? Where's his birth records? Will you accept a Xerox? RB |
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Sure, if it's notarized.
Cheers MC Bobsprit wrote: Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Will you accept a Xerox? RB |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Chris Sorry that is the "Devinci Code" must be my age! Ole Thom I read that a few weeks ago, cracking good book! Probably be easy to turn into a good screen play. Cheers marty |
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OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in
the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
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MC,
Jesus was named a thousand years before there was a PR. His does raise some questions; The single name was common but he was called; Jesus, son of Mary, which was used when there was a question of Fathership. If he would have been Joesph son he would have been Jesus, son of Joesph. If he was believed to be the son of God, he should have been called Jesus the Son of God. This brings Constantan into the picture once again. The question of Divinity. Did Jesus walk this Earth as a human or as a God? This question split the Christian Church into the church of the East and the Church of the West. The Trinity was declared by Constantan but the question of his being remained in dought, as it still does today. Was Jesus a human or was he a God? The church of the West claims he walked this Earth as a God; the Church of the East claims he was human. The Son of Man, Chris, what is your belief of his status on Earth? Was he a human on the Cross or was he a God when he died for Jon, Nutsy, Neal and all of Mankind? Ole Thom |
A true story - having actually talked to Jesus
I know what you mean... I got this email from my mom a couple
of years ago. She's, btw, quite anti-religious... always has been. My father had died maybe 6 mos before I got this particular email. She was having a problem with some rodents that were in the garage and I had suggested she get some bait. "I will check around some more next week. One person told me that the bait can be obtained at the Agriculture Dept in ???. I can't ask Jesus to go all the way there. It is about 25 miles each way and he works on his route 6 days a week. I would have no way of finding my way in ???. I get lost in this city more often than I would like to confess and this city is only 7 miles square. I'll speak to some more companies on Monday after the lab or on Tuesday and then I will see if Willie (handyman) will go. If he will, I can get Jesus to hang the canisters. If not, I don't know, at this point, what to do except wait until you come here in September. Maybe one of the companies has the bait. I have a few to call yet but they consider anything concerning trees horticultural and their licenses don't permit them to handle that kind of pest control. I'll let you know what Jesus says." Of course, I was a bit shocked by this. Either my mom had a religious conversion, or she had finally gone over the edge. I called her immediately, trying to dance around the subject. Finally, Jesus came up in the conversation. I asked her when she saw him or talked to him last. She told me he was there right now. So, being cagey, I asked if I could talk to him. She said no, that he was outside working. I told her it was really important, so she said ok. Then, he got on the phone. Now, I've never talked to Jesus before, but after about 2 seconds, I realized he was the hispanic gardner. wrote in message ... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:03:24 +1300, The_navigator© wrote: Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Yeah! And if he's Jewish, how come he has a Puerto Rican name? BB Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
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Are you saying we don't actually know his name???????????
Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
Any religion based on the Bible is a religion based
on a story book and a less than accurate one at that produced by various authors and edited half to death to suit compilers. The Bible has got to be the second biggest joke on humanity right after the concept of organized religion worshipping whatever God they happen to fancy. S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Are you saying we don't actually know his name??????????? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
Frankly, you're asking the wrong person - you might ask someone that cares.
Part of the "uncertainty" is that the likely Hebrew name is sometimes written in English as Joshua, but is actually closer to Yahoshua. And, of course, the vernacular was a version of Aramaic. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Are you saying we don't actually know his name??????????? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
I guess you are confriming that there is no factual evidence that this
person existed. I suspected as much. Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: Frankly, you're asking the wrong person - you might ask someone that cares. Part of the "uncertainty" is that the likely Hebrew name is sometimes written in English as Joshua, but is actually closer to Yahoshua. And, of course, the vernacular was a version of Aramaic. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Are you saying we don't actually know his name??????????? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
The Bible has got to be the second
biggest joke on humanity right after the concept of organized religion worshipping whatever God they happen to fancy. The Bible is the ultimate "How To cheat and scam People out of Money, Freedom and Truth" manual. The funny part is that people read it. They disregard elements and keep others to support their system. It's no different from Horrorscopes, though more sophisticated. RB |
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