I've weathered many a storm in offshore and coastal
environments aboard my fine yacht, "Cut the Mustard".

In most cases, heaving-to is the only thing that needs be
done to ride out a storm in relative comfort. This is the
course of action I mostly take in storm conditions. I
simply heave-to under 50% jib and double reefed
mainsail. The action of the wind on the sails and the
vessel slowly fore reaching yields a ride comfortable
enough to allow me to prepare some espresso on my
non-gimbaled stove. That's how sedate the ride is.

In an extended blow offshore when I don't have
to be concerned with a lee shore I generally take down
the main, gasket it thoroughly and run before it under
50% jib. I enjoy surfing down the wave faces because
my vessel is so well balanced that she exhibits little
or no tendency to broach. Rather than surf straight
down the waves, however, I prefer to quarter them.
This gives me a longer, smoother ride with little
need to worry about stuffing the bows into the
trough. I have never seen the need for dragging
warps or any other such crap like anchors (Thom's
an idiot for doing so.) because speed is what keeps
one safe from waves coming up astern. If one could
go as fast as the waves one could surf for hours on
the face of any wave that held up that long. But,
multis are about the only sailing vessels that can
accomplish this feat. Monohulls must necessarily
proceed at a more sedate pace even in a storm.

So, to conclude:

1) heave-to unless there is not enough offing to allow it.

2) if and when heaving-to becomes dangerous ( breaking
and boarding seas) then run before it with small jib only.

3) when running before it quarter the waves and surf as
much as conditions allow. Don't even consider dragging
warps unless your vessel broaches because of poor
rudder control/inept helmsman. However, a real sailor
should be able to helm his vessel for at least 48 hours
straight without losing concentration or falling asleep.
One must be strong and fit enough to outlast the storm.

4) if on a lee shore, claw off with double-reefed main and
50% jib.

Four simple rules make for a long lifetime of successful
storm management.

S.Simon

Like I said, I've weathered many a storm in relative
comfort and had a damned good time in most of them.

I have been harping on people's knowing their boats
and the only way to know your boat is to live aboard
her and sail her for years and years and years. The
only way to know if your boat is up to a storm is to
sail storms. Like I said most storms can be coped with
in a vessel that handles well by heaving to and the
same goes for running before when conditions become
untenable for heaving-to.

It just so happens that little is known or published
about shoal draft cruisers handling in storms. I
know how well my shoal draft cruiser handles in
storms because I've been there and done that.
Hint: a boat with a shoal keel has little tendency
to broach-to while surfing. It is only the deep
fin and full-keeled vessels that exhibit this
dangerous trait. Traditionalists resort to dragging
warps and all manner of crap to slow their vessels
down because they have no choice because
broaching is a very real and dangerous problem.

A well-balanced shoal draft cruiser like mine
has little or no tendency to broach especially
when quartering waves with a bit of headsail
pulling her along.

Your condescending comments demonstrate to
me that it is YOU who lack storm sailing experience

S.Simon

S.Simon


Donals Dilema wrote in message ...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:47:20 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

I've weathered many a storm in offshore and coastal
environments aboard my fine yacht, "Cut the Mustard".

In most cases, heaving-to is the only thing that needs be
done to ride out a storm in relative comfort. This is the
course of action I mostly take in storm conditions. I
simply heave-to under 50% jib and double reefed
mainsail. The action of the wind on the sails and the
vessel slowly fore reaching yields a ride comfortable
enough to allow me to prepare some espresso on my
non-gimbaled stove. That's how sedate the ride is.

You've never been in a storm!!

In an extended blow offshore when I don't have
to be concerned with a lee shore I generally take down
the main, gasket it thoroughly and run before it under
50% jib. I enjoy surfing down the wave faces because
my vessel is so well balanced that she exhibits little
or no tendency to broach. Rather than surf straight
down the waves, however, I prefer to quarter them.
This gives me a longer, smoother ride with little
need to worry about stuffing the bows into the
trough. I have never seen the need for dragging
warps or any other such crap like anchors (Thom's
an idiot for doing so.) because speed is what keeps
one safe from waves coming up astern. If one could
go as fast as the waves one could surf for hours on
the face of any wave that held up that long. But,
multis are about the only sailing vessels that can
accomplish this feat. Monohulls must necessarily
proceed at a more sedate pace even in a storm.

You've never been in a storm

So, to conclude:

1) heave-to unless there is not enough offing to allow it.

2) if and when heaving-to becomes dangerous ( breaking
and boarding seas) then run before it with small jib only.

3) when running before it quarter the waves and surf as
much as conditions allow. Don't even consider dragging
warps unless your vessel broaches because of poor
rudder control/inept helmsman. However, a real sailor
should be able to helm his vessel for at least 48 hours
straight without losing concentration or falling asleep.
One must be strong and fit enough to outlast the storm.

4) if on a lee shore, claw off with double-reefed main and
50% jib.

Four simple rules make for a long lifetime of successful
storm management.

You've never been in a storm!

S.Simon




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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The Pieman--wise in seamanship, wise in politics. :-)

two wheels


On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:47:20 -0500, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

I've weathered many a storm in offshore and coastal
environments aboard my fine yacht, "Cut the Mustard".

In most cases, heaving-to is the only thing that needs be
done to ride out a storm in relative comfort. This is the
course of action I mostly take in storm conditions. I
simply heave-to under 50% jib and double reefed
mainsail. The action of the wind on the sails and the
vessel slowly fore reaching yields a ride comfortable
enough to allow me to prepare some espresso on my
non-gimbaled stove. That's how sedate the ride is.

In an extended blow offshore when I don't have
to be concerned with a lee shore I generally take down
the main, gasket it thoroughly and run before it under
50% jib. I enjoy surfing down the wave faces because
my vessel is so well balanced that she exhibits little
or no tendency to broach. Rather than surf straight
down the waves, however, I prefer to quarter them.
This gives me a longer, smoother ride with little
need to worry about stuffing the bows into the
trough. I have never seen the need for dragging
warps or any other such crap like anchors (Thom's
an idiot for doing so.) because speed is what keeps
one safe from waves coming up astern. If one could
go as fast as the waves one could surf for hours on
the face of any wave that held up that long. But,
multis are about the only sailing vessels that can
accomplish this feat. Monohulls must necessarily
proceed at a more sedate pace even in a storm.

So, to conclude:

1) heave-to unless there is not enough offing to allow it.

2) if and when heaving-to becomes dangerous ( breaking
and boarding seas) then run before it with small jib only.

3) when running before it quarter the waves and surf as
much as conditions allow. Don't even consider dragging
warps unless your vessel broaches because of poor
rudder control/inept helmsman. However, a real sailor
should be able to helm his vessel for at least 48 hours
straight without losing concentration or falling asleep.
One must be strong and fit enough to outlast the storm.

4) if on a lee shore, claw off with double-reefed main and
50% jib.

Four simple rules make for a long lifetime of successful
storm management.

S.Simon


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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:18:21 +1100, Donals Dilema wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:10:45 GMT, two wheels
wrote:


The Pieman--wise in seamanship, wise in politics. :-)

Never been in a storm!


What do you base that on? The fact that he's still alive?

two wheels


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The fact that he doesn't sail.

"two wheels" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:18:21 +1100, Donals Dilema wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:10:45 GMT, two wheels
wrote:


The Pieman--wise in seamanship, wise in politics. :-)

Never been in a storm!


What do you base that on? The fact that he's still alive?

two wheels


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"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
I've weathered many a storm in offshore and coastal
environments aboard my fine yacht, "Cut the Mustard".

In most cases, heaving-to is the only thing that needs be
done to ride out a storm in relative comfort. This is the
course of action I mostly take in storm conditions. I
simply heave-to under 50% jib and double reefed
mainsail. The action of the wind on the sails and the
vessel slowly fore reaching yields a ride comfortable
enough to allow me to prepare some espresso on my
non-gimbaled stove. That's how sedate the ride is.

In an extended blow offshore when I don't have
to be concerned with a lee shore I generally take down
the main, gasket it thoroughly and run before it under
50% jib. I enjoy surfing down the wave faces because
my vessel is so well balanced that she exhibits little
or no tendency to broach. Rather than surf straight
down the waves, however, I prefer to quarter them.
This gives me a longer, smoother ride with little
need to worry about stuffing the bows into the
trough. I have never seen the need for dragging
warps or any other such crap like anchors (Thom's
an idiot for doing so.) because speed is what keeps
one safe from waves coming up astern. If one could
go as fast as the waves one could surf for hours on
the face of any wave that held up that long. But,
multis are about the only sailing vessels that can
accomplish this feat. Monohulls must necessarily
proceed at a more sedate pace even in a storm.

So, to conclude:
You have weathered very few storms, in very few boat designs.

1) heave-to unless there is not enough offing to allow it.

2) if and when heaving-to becomes dangerous ( breaking
and boarding seas) then run before it with small jib only.

3) when running before it quarter the waves and surf as
much as conditions allow. Don't even consider dragging
warps unless your vessel broaches because of poor
rudder control/inept helmsman. However, a real sailor
should be able to helm his vessel for at least 48 hours
straight without losing concentration or falling asleep.
One must be strong and fit enough to outlast the storm.

4) if on a lee shore, claw off with double-reefed main and
50% jib.

Four simple rules make for a long lifetime of successful
storm management.

S.Simon