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The greatest quiz on earth returns. I saw 5 sailing errors in 30
seconds. How many can you spot???

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/sailsuz21.jpg

Cheers MC

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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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The greatest quiz on earth returns. I saw 5 sailing errors in 30
seconds. How many can you spot???

Eight!


Regards


Donal
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Seriously? Well done! Care to list them?

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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The greatest quiz on earth returns. I saw 5 sailing errors in 30
seconds. How many can you spot???


Eight!


Regards


Donal
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You guys SUCK! I can spot 12! However, a true sailor would note the course
change in progress.


RB

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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Seriously? Well done! Care to list them?

No. It's late here. I'll let you do it.



Regards

Donal
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I see... can you even see 5?

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Seriously? Well done! Care to list them?


No. It's late here. I'll let you do it.

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List them.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

You guys SUCK! I can spot 12! However, a true sailor would note the course
change in progress.


RB

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I decline to look. I prefer to look at pictures of good sailors and =
note what they have done to get their vessels to respond. Looking at =
pictures of Bob's and Neal's boats is like looking at cartoons on =
Saturday morning.

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List them.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

I'll be happy to. But you go first. I'm betting you can't find 5 real ones. I
can find 11. Not made up ones with you trying to suppose the set of the sails
and course, which you can't manage.
There are REAL errors, 11 of them! Show us your stuff!

RB

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Silly Booby, if you can see 11 do you really think I can't see 5? Of
course I couldn't see as many as you claim so perhaps you would like to
show us how much you know? I suggest that you, like Donal can't see
them. In your case, I'm sure of it, as you would have corrected them at
the time...

Bwhahhahahahha

BUSTED!

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

List them.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

I'll be happy to. But you go first. I'm betting you can't find 5 real ones. I
can find 11. Not made up ones with you trying to suppose the set of the sails
and course, which you can't manage.
There are REAL errors, 11 of them! Show us your stuff!

RB

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Silly Booby, if you can see 11 do you really think I can't see 5?

I'm sorry, but you started the thread, so it's up to you to make good on your
claim. I actually gave you one via course in another thread...and that's main
one, which you could have only guess at without my input.
You're welcome!

RB

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Let's take turns then. You first.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Silly Booby, if you can see 11 do you really think I can't see 5?

I'm sorry, but you started the thread, so it's up to you to make good on your
claim. I actually gave you one via course in another thread...and that's main
one, which you could have only guess at without my input.
You're welcome!

RB

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Let's take turns then. You first.

I already went first, giving the specific course error, which you could not
have done.
Your turn!

RB

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Sigh. That was wrong booby, you were luffing. Next?

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Let's take turns then. You first.

I already went first, giving the specific course error, which you could not
have done.
Your turn!

RB

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Sigh. That was wrong booby, you were luffing. Next?

Nope. And the wave pattern clearly shows you're wrong. Even I'd be able to
deduce that.
So much for your "sailing knowledge."

RB

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Bwhahhahahahahahaha. You are NUTS

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Sigh. That was wrong booby, you were luffing. Next?

Nope. And the wave pattern clearly shows you're wrong. Even I'd be able to
deduce that.
So much for your "sailing knowledge."

RB

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The wake is to the right in the picture which means you are turning to
PORT and luffing. You lose AGAIN. What's really sad is that you were
there and still got it wrong!

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Sigh. That was wrong booby, you were luffing. Next?

Nope. And the wave pattern clearly shows you're wrong. Even I'd be able to
deduce that.
So much for your "sailing knowledge."

RB

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What's really sad is that you were
there and still got it wrong!

Nope. You don't even know what a wake is...and you proved it. The track aft
means nothing since the course change was just initiated for the pic. The wave
off her hull to starboard shows this.
Maybe it's a rogue wave!!! Bwahahahaha!

Oh man, it's a seal clubing!

RB

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Do you want to bet your wake is to starboard? Here's a hint. The wake
from a sailing vessel at _low_ speed can be seen as a line of flatter
water demarked by parallel lines of disturbed water (sometimes with a
little foam), separated by a distance about equal to her waterline beam.
Look at the picture again. Now do you see it? It's just as I said, she's
turned to PORT. If you want more proof you'll have to pay me for my
expert knowlege!

Bwhahahhahahahahahah

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

What's really sad is that you were
there and still got it wrong!

Nope. You don't even know what a wake is...and you proved it. The track aft
means nothing since the course change was just initiated for the pic. The wave
off her hull to starboard shows this.
Maybe it's a rogue wave!!! Bwahahahaha!

Oh man, it's a seal clubing!

RB

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Do you want to bet your wake is to starboard? Here's a hint. The wake
from a sailing vessel at _low_ speed can be seen as a line of flatter
water demarked by parallel lines of disturbed water

This is exactly why the photo can't tell you what's happening. The course
change was initiated moments before the pic, so the sun would be abeam of us.
The wake behind us doesn't tell the whole story. I actually explained this from
the get-go and you still couldn't sum up the evidence correctly!

RB

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Nope. You don't even know what a wake is...and you proved it.

Wakes are backwards in the matrix.


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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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I see... can you even see 5?


The lazy sheet on the jenny looks taut,
the fender on the sidedeck is very poor seamanship,
I cannot figure out what that pile of string on the coachroof is
I'm surprised at the level of heel in such a light breeze
the belly of the main seems too far forward
The jenny car is too far forward
Is the topping lift too tight?



Regards


Donal
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the fender on the sidedeck is very poor seamanship,
I cannot figure out what that pile of string on the coachroof is
I'm surprised at the level of heel in such a light breeze

The fender on deck is certainly "not" very poor seamanship. Wrong.
You can't figure out the pile of "string" even after I identified it?
Level of heel is correct as she's just to put the boat to starboard so the sun
would be abeam. So wrong again.

RB

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The jenny car is too far forward
Is the topping lift too tight?


Wrong and wrong again. There are OBVIOUS errors. So far you people list things
that you can't certain of.
Very depressing indeed.

RB

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I happen to like cartoons,

No surprise there! You also like trawlers better than sailboats.

RB

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katysails wrote:

I decline to look. I prefer to look at pictures of good sailors and note what they have done to get their vessels to respond. Looking at pictures of Bob's and Neal's boats is like looking at cartoons on Saturday morning.

There's a good way to look at it. I happen to like cartoons, but the Crapton and Bubbles are rarely funny.

DSK

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Yes, actually it is. Fenders should be stowed unless you're
using them or getting ready to use them.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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the fender on the sidedeck is very poor seamanship,
I cannot figure out what that pile of string on the coachroof is
I'm surprised at the level of heel in such a light breeze

The fender on deck is certainly "not" very poor seamanship. Wrong.
You can't figure out the pile of "string" even after I identified it?
Level of heel is correct as she's just to put the boat to starboard so the
sun
would be abeam. So wrong again.

RB

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Fenders should be stowed unless you're
using them or getting ready to use them.

We were. We were only out for an afternoon sail...a couple of hours. No need to
stow fenders and they're not in the way or impeding the operation of the boat.

RB

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I agree with you on some points. The pile of string must be a jenny or
main halyard but he's made it up in way that is not good seamanship. The
fender is very bad and shows pure laziness -an anathema to a real
sailor. The mainsheet is way too tight and traveler positioned badly.
The helm is not paying attention to what is going on. The section foot
of the main is too flat. looks like a major lack of chafe protection on
those shrouds and screws. The lazy sheet _is_ tight. Life lines are
slack. Other ropes are cheesed (cheezing is for port only). Lazy jacks
have not been taken down along boom.

Gosh that's 11!

Cheers MC





Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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I see... can you even see 5?



The lazy sheet on the jenny looks taut,
the fender on the sidedeck is very poor seamanship,
I cannot figure out what that pile of string on the coachroof is
I'm surprised at the level of heel in such a light breeze
the belly of the main seems too far forward
The jenny car is too far forward
Is the topping lift too tight?



Regards


Donal
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Other ropes are cheesed (cheezing is for port only). Lazy jacks
have not been taken down along boom.

Gosh that's 11!

Outside of the course change, which I had to give you, you've yet to list a
single serious error, even though I see them clearly in the photo.
Fender? Lazy jacks? You gotta be kidding!
I thought you "know how sails behave?"
Look again.

RB

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I pointed out the fault in the main Booby.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Other ropes are cheesed (cheezing is for port only). Lazy jacks
have not been taken down along boom.

Gosh that's 11!

Outside of the course change, which I had to give you, you've yet to list a
single serious error, even though I see them clearly in the photo.
Fender? Lazy jacks? You gotta be kidding!
I thought you "know how sails behave?"
Look again.

RB

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Hey Bob,
Remember how I stowed mine? Tied to the toe rail and hung outboard off
the top lifeline with a snap hook. Out of the way, instantly
deployable, and take up no storage space.

On 24 Nov 2003 20:22:59 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Fenders should be stowed unless you're
using them or getting ready to use them.

We were. We were only out for an afternoon sail...a couple of hours. No need to
stow fenders and they're not in the way or impeding the operation of the boat.

RB

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Remember how I stowed mine? Tied to the toe rail and hung outboard off
the top lifeline with a snap hook. Out of the way, instantly
deployable, and take up no storage space.

Yeah, that was pretty workable, but I tend to want them out of sight if I'm
going for anything beyond a few hours.
Your system worked well though.

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Fenders should be stowed unless you're
using them or getting ready to use them.

We were. We were only out for an afternoon sail...a couple of hours. No
need to
stow fenders and they're not in the way or impeding the operation of the
boat.

That's just plain stupid!

The fender is lying directly in the path of anybody who tries to go forward
on that side of the boat. Sometimes. you have to go forward in a hurry.
You really don't need obstructions on the sidedecks whilst you are under
way. You should stow the fenders so that they will not interfere with the
safe operation of the vessel.


Regards


Donal
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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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I agree with you on some points.


Oh good!

I didn't do too bad, did I?


Regards


Donal
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The fender is lying directly in the path of anybody who tries to go forward
on that side of the boat. Sometimes. you have to go forward in a hurry.

It's pretty light air, as evident in the pic. Unless you're on cruches,
stepping over the fender is not exactly a challenge. I actuall managed to make
it past the deadly plastic obstruction to take the photo.
Please explain how the fender is dangerous for our short day sail.

RB

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I pointed out the fault in the main Booby.


It's not a "fault" since we are off trim to facilitate the photo.
Yet their are gross errors you seem unable to spot.

RB

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Or leave em lying around so you can bang your head in
frustration...safely..

I think Donal suffers from Fenderphobia, also known as Clumsymaximum
Trippingdownus.
Us coordinated folks can step over fenders and even spilled coke Cola.

RB

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Every novice sailor knows this. To do otherwise is just plain slovenly
laziness.

Scotty

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Fenders should be stowed unless you're
using them or getting ready to use them.

We were. We were only out for an afternoon sail...a couple of hours. No
need to
stow fenders and they're not in the way or impeding the operation of the
boat.

That's just plain stupid!

The fender is lying directly in the path of anybody who tries to go
forward
on that side of the boat. Sometimes. you have to go forward in a hurry.
You really don't need obstructions on the sidedecks whilst you are under
way. You should stow the fenders so that they will not interfere with the
safe operation of the vessel.


Regards


Donal
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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The fender is lying directly in the path of anybody who tries to go
forward
on that side of the boat. Sometimes. you have to go forward in a
hurry.

It's pretty light air, as evident in the pic. Unless you're on cruches,
stepping over the fender is not exactly a challenge. I actuall managed to
make
it past the deadly plastic obstruction to take the photo.
Please explain how the fender is dangerous for our short day sail.

Geeeze! How can you be so stupid?


Does the wind never increase suddenly in LIS? Do unexpected events never
occur? Let me give you a little example:- Two years ago we were out on a
relatively calm day when I spotted the shackle bolt from the genoa tack
sitting on top of the furling drum. It had worked loose, and fallen out!
I ran forward and caught the bolt in mid air as it rolled off of the drum.

In the same situation, you would have tripped over the fender!


Regards


Donal
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