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Capetanios Oz wrote:
On what tack is a sailing boat that's head to wind? It is considered to be on the same tack as it was before going head to wind. Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she 'tacked'? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Ahhh, one must ask is movement of the helm required for it to be
considered a tack.=20 I'm going to take a stab at this and say that it is a tack since another = boat approaching later on doesn't know what happened and if it looks = like a duck.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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DSK wrote:
Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she 'tacked'? Not in the sense that the crew have carried out the action of tacking - everything could be lashed and there might be nobody on board. For colregs purposes, she is on a different tack, however... -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close
hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she 'tacked'? Yes because the boom went to the other side. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On 13 Nov 2003 17:45:17 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote: Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she 'tacked'? Yes because the boom went to the other side. Bwaaaahahahahahahahahaaa! sounds like you forgot to duck! Sometimes the thin line between sneering and stupidity can become blurred. Oz, it *really* appears that he remembered to duck. Honestly..... Take my word for it! Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote:
Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she 'tacked'? Not in the sense that the crew have carried out the action of tacking - everything could be lashed and there might be nobody on board. For colregs purposes, she is on a different tack, however... However WHAT???? ....however, the colregs weren't mentioned in the original question, so the comment about being on a different tack may be erroneous. -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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Capetanios Oz wrote:
Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she 'tacked'? Not in the sense that the crew have carried out the action of tacking - everything could be lashed and there might be nobody on board. For colregs purposes, she is on a different tack, however... However WHAT???? ...however, the colregs weren't mentioned in the original question, so the comment about being on a different tack may be erroneous. Yikes so even though the wind is coming from the other side the boat remains on the same tack? What's the difference between 'being on a tack', and 'tacking'? -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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For God's Sake .... will you listen to yourselves? It's Pathetic!
The Tack of a windsurfer or a kite sailor.... like who cares? I've got 6 tons says he loses on impact! ....and if he even groans I'll back over the idiot! CM "DSK" wrote in message ... | Capetanios Oz wrote: | | On what tack is a sailing boat that's head to wind? | | It is considered to be on the same tack as it was before going | head to wind. | | Here's a tricky one... if a vessel is sailing along close | hauled, and the wind shifts 90 degrees, forcing her sails across | while the vessel continues on a straight course, has she | 'tacked'? | | Fresh Breezes- Doug King | |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I've got 6 tons says he loses on impact! So you've got a large ass. Who really cares besides LP? S.Simon |
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Yikes so even though the wind is coming from the other side the boat remains on the same tack? So how do you explain that to the guy coming at you when the boat = APPEARS to be on a port tack but is, in your estimation, still on a = starboard tack?? You really thik they're going to believe you when = there's a protest? Or if it's the CG? --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Get 'em Katy!
Grin MST |
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Martin Baxter wrote:
Well, the wind is coming over the other rail, so the vessel is now on a different tack; ergo the vessel has tacked. A more accurate way to say it is 'the vessel has been tacked.' Happens all the time on smaller lakes with flukey winds. Sometimes two boats going bow to bow will be on the same tack.... more of a probelm if they're both on starboard... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Capetanios Oz wrote:
What's the difference between 'being on a tack', and 'tacking'? Did you think about this question before asking it? A bit. :-) To me, 'being on a tack' suggests being on starboard tack or port tack - a state; while 'tacking' is changing from starboard to port tack or vice-versa - an action (or a series of such actions, in the sense of tacking up a channel, say). -- Wally www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light. |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... | I've got 6 tons says he loses on impact! | | So you've got a large ass. Who really cares besides LP? I don't think she really cares. I think she's playin' me like a piano! Such a tease! CM |
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Playings OK, It's when they try and tune the piano that you've gotta
worry. You don't have to worry about tuning..it's when they want to re-string = you that you really have problems... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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DSK wrote: snip Sometimes two boats going bow to bow will be on the same tack.... more of a probelm if they're both on starboard... Work this out: four boats racing (one FLying Tadpole II) in two pairs on gently converging courses (roughly EbyS and EbyN), pairs about 70m apart, FTII then another on port tack, other two on starboard tack, meeting another boat coming W, also on starboard tack. All five have the wind forward. FT2 is hard on a cliff with no upwind manoeuvring room. WHat happens next? (Clayton Narrows on the lower Murray, 1994 or 95). -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
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OZ, your whole scenario is nothing but semantics and has very little to =
do with actually sailing.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... Work this out: four boats racing (one FLying Tadpole II) in two pairs on gently converging courses (roughly EbyS and EbyN), pairs about 70m apart, FTII then another on port tack, other two on starboard tack, meeting another boat coming W, also on starboard tack. All five have the wind forward. FT2 is hard on a cliff with no upwind manoeuvring room. WHat happens next? (Clayton Narrows on the lower Murray, 1994 or 95). "WATER" ???? Regards Donal -- |
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Flying Tadpole wrote:
Work this out: four boats racing (one FLying Tadpole II) in two pairs on gently converging courses (roughly EbyS and EbyN), pairs about 70m apart, FTII then another on port tack, other two on starboard tack, meeting another boat coming W, also on starboard tack. All five have the wind forward. FT2 is hard on a cliff with no upwind manoeuvring room. WHat happens next? (Clayton Narrows on the lower Murray, 1994 or 95). Hail for room to tack. The usual call is "Water!" which I always answer with "Beer!" but give room anyway. Don't you find the wind diminished in strength and somewhat flukey hard under a cliff? Or did it not matter 'cuz you could keep way on with full topsails? ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Wally" wrote in message ... To me, 'being on a tack' suggests being on starboard tack or port tack - a state; while 'tacking' is changing from starboard to port tack or vice-versa - an action (or a series of such actions, in the sense of tacking up a channel, say). Correct. BTW, Asking Oz a straight question is totally futile. He will ignore the fact that you have stated that you are a learner so that he can have a good sneer. His desire to look down his nose, would suggest that he has poor self image. I suppose that this is understandable -- after all he IS an ex-copper. Regards Donal -- |
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What??????????????????????????????
LP "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... | I've got 6 tons says he loses on impact! | | So you've got a large ass. Who really cares besides LP? I don't think she really cares. I think she's playin' me like a piano! Such a tease! CM |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:57:05 -0400, "Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... | I've got 6 tons says he loses on impact! | | So you've got a large ass. Who really cares besides LP? I don't think she really cares. I think she's playin' me like a piano! Such a tease! CM Playings OK, It's when they try and tune the piano that you've gotta worry. You are very funny, Ox. LP (hasn't practiced the piano in years...) |
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DSK wrote: Don't you find the wind diminished in strength and somewhat flukey hard under a cliff? Or did it not matter 'cuz you could keep way on with full topsails? ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King The strange situation arises because of the flukiness. What litlle wind there was was sort-of southerly (doldrums between the land-breeze northeasterly and the southwesterlyto southeasterly sea breeze). Clayton Narrows on the lower Murray is about 1.5 n mi southeasterly, and about 300m wide with low hillocky rises one side and about 1km of limestaone cliff 15m on the other. If the wind is southerly and light, with an easterly component, one can get a nice back eddy off the cliff, which is why FT2 and companion were where they were. OTOH one can benefit from wind funnels on the other side, which is why the other pair were where they were. What actually happend was that the two pairs proceeded on and eventually strung out, so no need to cry for water. But the poor oncoming boat hit the local eddies the other four were sailing on, and was taken aback. We all passed her while she was undoing the tangle. The cliff and related eddies of the lower Murray R are why I always relax as Lady Kate comes out onto the relatively open waters of the Murray Lakes. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:48:05 -0000, "Donal" "WATER" ???? That would be "Water Please" followed by "Thank You" LOL. I've never thought of trying that approach The correct sequence is- "WATER" [short pause] "READY ABOUT" - "LEE HO". But what else will be in the exchange? After they have tacked, the other boat will usually us some colourful language - saying something to the effect that there was plenty of water! We will then use equally colourful language in our two word contradiction of their interpretation of the situation. Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... You've missed something important with your frivolity. I couls grab a spoon and start feeding you BUT you'd be much better off if you figure it out for yourself. In what sense would I be much better off? Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... BMI....Basic Methods of Instruction. Will teach you the basics of what you need to know to aid people in learning. Nowadays, I say to people who disagree with me "Do you believe *ME*, ... or the book?". The clever ones have thrown away the books. Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... Hmmm, I never thought I was THAT smart, That's because you are far too modest. You don't realise that you must strike a very authoritive figure when you command your vessel wearing nothing but pantyhose. a Greek fisherman's cap, and a narrow moustache. Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:41:42 -0000, "Donal" wrote: You don't realise that you must strike a very authoritive figure when you command your vessel wearing nothing but pantyhose. a Greek fisherman's cap, and a narrow moustache. I realise! ....And so do I! However, the rest of the group may have lesser imaginations than I do. Perhaps you could post a photo to demonstrate the awesome truth??? Bobsprit would be very impressed. Regards Donal -- |
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What and have all the women here swooning....Nah!
He has a good-looking wife which indicates one of several things: 1. He also is good-looking 2. She is beyond choosing people for their looks and married him for = his inner, spiritual qualities 3. He is such a manly man that she could not resist him 4. She secretly hates men and saw him as "safe" You pick. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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katysails wrote: He has a good-looking wife which indicates one of several things: 1. He also is good-looking 2. She is beyond choosing people for their looks and married him for his inner, spiritual qualities 3. He is such a manly man that she could not resist him 4. She secretly hates men and saw him as "safe" You pick. I'm going to show this list of options to my wife and see what she says. Thanks Katysails. DSK |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... What and have all the women here swooning....Nah! He has a good-looking wife which indicates one of several things: 1. He also is good-looking 2. She is beyond choosing people for their looks and married him for = his inner, spiritual qualities 3. He is such a manly man that she could not resist him 4. She secretly hates men and saw him as "safe" 5. She married him for his money. You pick. No. 5??? Regards Donal -- |
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"katysails" wrote ...
He has a good-looking wife which indicates one of several things: 1. He also is good-looking 2. She is beyond choosing people for their looks and married him for = his inner, spiritual qualities 3. He is such a manly man that she could not resist him 4. She secretly hates men and saw him as "safe" 5. He married her for her money. You pick. Donal wrote: No. 5??? |
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Donal wrote:
"katysails" wrote in message ... What and have all the women here swooning....Nah! He has a good-looking wife which indicates one of several things: 1. He also is good-looking 2. She is beyond choosing people for their looks and married him for = his inner, spiritual qualities 3. He is such a manly man that she could not resist him 4. She secretly hates men and saw him as "safe" 5. She married him for his money, and has no standards what-so-ever. You pick. No. 5??? Regards Donal, I have emended your text. Cheers Marty |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:45:19 -0000, "Donal" wrote: No. 5??? Poor Donal ;-) Rich Oz. Regards Donal -- PS I **cannot** do smilies! I tried! I really tried. |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: "katysails" wrote in message ... What and have all the women here swooning....Nah! He has a good-looking wife which indicates one of several things: 1. He also is good-looking 2. She is beyond choosing people for their looks and married him for = his inner, spiritual qualities 3. He is such a manly man that she could not resist him 4. She secretly hates men and saw him as "safe" 5. She married him for his money, and has no standards what-so-ever. You pick. No. 5??? Regards Donal, I have emended your text. Your understanding of women outshines mine! Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:10:03 -0000, "Donal" wrote: Donal, I have emended your text. Your understanding of women outshines mine! But his understanding of spelling is horrible Which word did he get wrong? Regards Donal -- |
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Capetanios Oz wrote:
1,2 and 3.....True! :-) My wife said #2 and #3, plus I had a really cool boat. DSK |
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Capetanios Oz wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:38:58 -0000, "Donal" wrote: Capetanios Oz wrote in message .. . On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:10:03 -0000, "Donal" wrote: Donal, I have emended your text. Your understanding of women outshines mine! But his understanding of spelling is horrible Which word did he get wrong? Uh Huh. Figures. Donal, we are in the shadow of an intellectual giant, his witticisms put GBS to shame, W. Buckley would loose control of his bowels if faced with the possibility of engaging in debate with him. But don't ever expect a straight answer, he's more elusive than the Scarlet Pimpernel. Cheers Marty |
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