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So what? You can tow a condom behind a vessel; it does not
make a condom a vessel.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
According to washington state legislatu

"Water skiing" means the physical act of being towed behind a vessel
on, but not limited to, any skis, aquaplane, kneeboard, tube, or any
other similar device.

Note the TOWED

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Wrong! Until you address the issue of a water skier not being
a vessel you will not be able to prove a kite sailor is a vessel.

They are one in the same. The only difference is the means
of propulsion.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Rule #a:

(a) The word "vessel" includes every description of watercraft,
including non-displacement craft and seaplanes, used or capable of being
used as a means of transportation on water.

Note "every" and "capable". FYI: A kite surfers board is a
non-displacement craft.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Is the ski a water skier stands on when being
pulled by a motorboat a vessel?

No it is not.

In like manner the board a kite sailor stands on is not a vessel.

I repeat. A kite sailor is not presently covered by the COLREGS.
It is a gray area that needs to be looked at.

S.Simon



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The_navigator© wrote:



Of course they are. The colregs are all inclusive. If the vessel is
making way she is being propelled by oars, sails or machinery. There
is nothing else possible.

Agreed. I would also say that the kitesail thingy is a vessel. I don't hold
with Neal's view that it isn't water transport because it 'only goes back
and forth' - dinghies don't suddenly become non-vessels when they go back
and forth around a two-can race course. Transporation doesn't neccessarily
connote passagemaking; nor does use of a particular water craft to go back
and forth neccessitate that it can't be used for passagemaking.


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Default What is a sail?

Does if it can transport to another place. Now there's an idea!!!!!!!!!

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))0

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

So what? You can tow a condom behind a vessel; it does not
make a condom a vessel.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

According to washington state legislatu

"Water skiing" means the physical act of being towed behind a vessel
on, but not limited to, any skis, aquaplane, kneeboard, tube, or any
other similar device.

Note the TOWED

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Wrong! Until you address the issue of a water skier not being
a vessel you will not be able to prove a kite sailor is a vessel.

They are one in the same. The only difference is the means
of propulsion.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Rule #a:

(a) The word "vessel" includes every description of watercraft,
including non-displacement craft and seaplanes, used or capable of being
used as a means of transportation on water.

Note "every" and "capable". FYI: A kite surfers board is a
non-displacement craft.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Is the ski a water skier stands on when being
pulled by a motorboat a vessel?

No it is not.

In like manner the board a kite sailor stands on is not a vessel.

I repeat. A kite sailor is not presently covered by the COLREGS.
It is a gray area that needs to be looked at.

S.Simon



"Wally" wrote in message ...



The_navigator© wrote:




Of course they are. The colregs are all inclusive. If the vessel is
making way she is being propelled by oars, sails or machinery. There
is nothing else possible.

Agreed. I would also say that the kitesail thingy is a vessel. I don't hold
with Neal's view that it isn't water transport because it 'only goes back
and forth' - dinghies don't suddenly become non-vessels when they go back
and forth around a two-can race course. Transporation doesn't neccessarily
connote passagemaking; nor does use of a particular water craft to go back
and forth neccessitate that it can't be used for passagemaking.


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Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.










 
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