What is a sail?
 

Interacting with a water skier does not make
said skier a vessel.

S.Simon


"Wally" wrote in message ...
Simple Simon wrote:

A water skier's board in the water is a vessel under tow.

NOT!

So, if you were in a potential collision situation with the skier, would you
run over the water skier, or treat the towing vessel and skier in the same
way as one vessel towing another?


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What is a sail?
 

If it's so obvious then please explain why a
water skier is not defined as a vessel.

The only difference between a water skier
and a kite boarder is one is being pulled by
the wind and the other is being pulled by a
vessel.

One cannot be classified as being towed by
the wind while one can classify a skier as
being towed by a vessel. If a water skier
while being towed is not a vessel, certainly
a kite boarder while not being towed is
not a vessel.

If you're going to use logic then use it.

S.Simon
"DSK" wrote in message ...
The navigator© wrote:

OED:

1. a. One of the shaped pieces of canvas ......

While it's laughable to use the Oxford English Dictionary to reach for
conclusions in maritime law, I agree with Navvie© here. A kitesurfer is
covered by the ColRegs as a sailing vessel, as is a windsurfer, as is a
dugout canoe with a big leafy branch sticking up.

Why all the disagreement? Seems pretty obvious. I never thought straining
at gnats after swallowing a camel would be such a popular pastime.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

What is a sail?
 

Does if it can transport to another place. Now there's an idea!!!!!!!!!

:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))0

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

So what? You can tow a condom behind a vessel; it does not
make a condom a vessel.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

According to washington state legislatu

"Water skiing" means the physical act of being towed behind a vessel
on, but not limited to, any skis, aquaplane, kneeboard, tube, or any
other similar device.

Note the TOWED

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:


Wrong! Until you address the issue of a water skier not being
a vessel you will not be able to prove a kite sailor is a vessel.

They are one in the same. The only difference is the means
of propulsion.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...


Rule #a:

(a) The word "vessel" includes every description of watercraft,
including non-displacement craft and seaplanes, used or capable of being
used as a means of transportation on water.

Note "every" and "capable". FYI: A kite surfers board is a
non-displacement craft.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:



Is the ski a water skier stands on when being
pulled by a motorboat a vessel?

No it is not.

In like manner the board a kite sailor stands on is not a vessel.

I repeat. A kite sailor is not presently covered by the COLREGS.
It is a gray area that needs to be looked at.

S.Simon



"Wally" wrote in message ...



The_navigator© wrote:




Of course they are. The colregs are all inclusive. If the vessel is
making way she is being propelled by oars, sails or machinery. There
is nothing else possible.

Agreed. I would also say that the kitesail thingy is a vessel. I don't hold
with Neal's view that it isn't water transport because it 'only goes back
and forth' - dinghies don't suddenly become non-vessels when they go back
and forth around a two-can race course. Transporation doesn't neccessarily
connote passagemaking; nor does use of a particular water craft to go back
and forth neccessitate that it can't be used for passagemaking.


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What is a sail?
 

The ski is the vessel. It's not a diplacement craft.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Interacting with a water skier does not make
said skier a vessel.

S.Simon


"Wally" wrote in message ...

Simple Simon wrote:


A water skier's board in the water is a vessel under tow.

NOT!

So, if you were in a potential collision situation with the skier, would you
run over the water skier, or treat the towing vessel and skier in the same
way as one vessel towing another?


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.