Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

Ya have to read between the lines. The boob, our resident idiot savant, has
a serious inferiority complex, thus, his problems with Donal and just about
everybody else in the group. Boob is what is commonly referred to as a
"troll". Go to any search engine and type in "usenet" and "troll", and read
on. Boob perceives that everyone else in the group is a better sailor, or
owns a better boat, thus his constant attempts to prove otherwise. BTW, the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats. It was a fairly widespread problem in the late '70's and early 80's,
I've read various explanations as to the exact cause, none of which had
anything to do with the "quality" of the manufacturer. Indeed, even Bristol
had problems with blistering, look in any magazine and see what the asking
price for a early 80's 41.1 is. Boob does provide the group with endless
comedic relief, but it is definitely lowbrow comedy at best.
John Cairns
"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced those
problems though. We were all kinda' scratching our heads after reading the
review. I did look at the add for the boatyard with the note about
Benetau's
warranty work. Is blistering that common on Benetau's that a yard would
use
up precious advertising space to specifically advertise this service. Why
would someone build a boat these days that would blister so badly that
marinas would advertise for this when its known what causes blisters and
how
to avoid certain techniques and materials when building a boat so as not
to
get blisters. I saw a few Benetaus at the Columbus Day Regatta in Miami a
few weeks ago. Sharp lookin' boats, but that would scare me if I saw that
as
a prospective buyer. Is it Donal that owns a Benetau? If so how many years
and is he having any problems? Why wouldn't Benetau recall these boats
and
try to prevent the blistering with a barrier coat?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The reviewer mentioned
spongy decks, badly blistered hulls and failing hull/deck joints as
very
common on the 41 Morgan OI series and OI series in general.

Don't worry, newer Beneteau's have the same problems and some people
like
to
think that they're fine boats anyway.

RB

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

BTW, the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats.

100% wrong, especially in warmer climates.

RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

The Morgan Out Island series was just your typical
motorboat with sails. They were sold mostly for the
charter trade to be rented by people who valued
room and schedules over sailing performance.

Besides that they are ugly as hell. There's not
much good to be said about a Morgan Out Island.
Around here they're called Morgan Out Houses.

S.Simon


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced those
problems though.

All the Morgan owners I've known have been very happy with their boats. Three of them were long time liveaboards and found them to
be very functional for that purpose.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

You show a great deal of ignorance. Where has your head
been during the past ten years or so. Blistering has been
figured out. You need to read the link I posted in the
"blistering explained" thread. Blistering is 90 percent
due to poor lay-up procedures and cheap resin.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...
Ya have to read between the lines. The boob, our resident idiot savant, has
a serious inferiority complex, thus, his problems with Donal and just about
everybody else in the group. Boob is what is commonly referred to as a
"troll". Go to any search engine and type in "usenet" and "troll", and read
on. Boob perceives that everyone else in the group is a better sailor, or
owns a better boat, thus his constant attempts to prove otherwise. BTW, the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats. It was a fairly widespread problem in the late '70's and early 80's,
I've read various explanations as to the exact cause, none of which had
anything to do with the "quality" of the manufacturer. Indeed, even Bristol
had problems with blistering, look in any magazine and see what the asking
price for a early 80's 41.1 is. Boob does provide the group with endless
comedic relief, but it is definitely lowbrow comedy at best.
John Cairns
"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced those
problems though. We were all kinda' scratching our heads after reading the
review. I did look at the add for the boatyard with the note about
Benetau's
warranty work. Is blistering that common on Benetau's that a yard would
use
up precious advertising space to specifically advertise this service. Why
would someone build a boat these days that would blister so badly that
marinas would advertise for this when its known what causes blisters and
how
to avoid certain techniques and materials when building a boat so as not
to
get blisters. I saw a few Benetaus at the Columbus Day Regatta in Miami a
few weeks ago. Sharp lookin' boats, but that would scare me if I saw that
as
a prospective buyer. Is it Donal that owns a Benetau? If so how many years
and is he having any problems? Why wouldn't Benetau recall these boats
and
try to prevent the blistering with a barrier coat?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The reviewer mentioned
spongy decks, badly blistered hulls and failing hull/deck joints as
very
common on the 41 Morgan OI series and OI series in general.

Don't worry, newer Beneteau's have the same problems and some people
like
to
think that they're fine boats anyway.

RB

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

Right you are, again! See the link I posted about Beneteau
blister repair in the warranty period. What do they have
a five-year blister warranty?

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
BTW, the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats.

100% wrong, especially in warmer climates.

RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in a
bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about boats
though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you intended.

No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days here.
Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).


"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

I would never try to upset anyone. I'm to nice of a guy.
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in
a
bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about
boats
though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you intended.

No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days
here.
Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).


"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
If you loved your vessel, you would keep her for more than two years!

Donal tells us that love of a boat is determined by length of ownership.

Perhaps love is demonstrated by length of comminment??

Regards


Donal
--

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

JUST DON'T PRESS MY BUTTONS AGAIN!

oops...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in
a
bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about
boats
though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you intended.

No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days
here.
Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).


"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

So, 1 out of 10 isn't a lay-up or resin problem?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
You show a great deal of ignorance. Where has your head
been during the past ten years or so. Blistering has been
figured out. You need to read the link I posted in the
"blistering explained" thread. Blistering is 90 percent
due to poor lay-up procedures and cheap resin.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Ya have to read between the lines. The boob, our resident idiot savant,
has
a serious inferiority complex, thus, his problems with Donal and just
about
everybody else in the group. Boob is what is commonly referred to as a
"troll". Go to any search engine and type in "usenet" and "troll", and
read
on. Boob perceives that everyone else in the group is a better sailor,
or
owns a better boat, thus his constant attempts to prove otherwise. BTW,
the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats. It was a fairly widespread problem in the late '70's and early
80's,
I've read various explanations as to the exact cause, none of which had
anything to do with the "quality" of the manufacturer. Indeed, even
Bristol
had problems with blistering, look in any magazine and see what the
asking
price for a early 80's 41.1 is. Boob does provide the group with
endless
comedic relief, but it is definitely lowbrow comedy at best.
John Cairns
"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced
those
problems though. We were all kinda' scratching our heads after reading
the
review. I did look at the add for the boatyard with the note about
Benetau's
warranty work. Is blistering that common on Benetau's that a yard
would
use
up precious advertising space to specifically advertise this service.
Why
would someone build a boat these days that would blister so badly that
marinas would advertise for this when its known what causes blisters
and
how
to avoid certain techniques and materials when building a boat so as
not
to
get blisters. I saw a few Benetaus at the Columbus Day Regatta in
Miami a
few weeks ago. Sharp lookin' boats, but that would scare me if I saw
that
as
a prospective buyer. Is it Donal that owns a Benetau? If so how many
years
and is he having any problems? Why wouldn't Benetau recall these
boats
and
try to prevent the blistering with a barrier coat?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The reviewer mentioned
spongy decks, badly blistered hulls and failing hull/deck joints as
very
common on the 41 Morgan OI series and OI series in general.

Don't worry, newer Beneteau's have the same problems and some people
like
to
think that they're fine boats anyway.

RB