Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

Many Morgan yachts sell for more than was originally paid for them new but I
guess if you compute inflation and new equipment maybe not. they do seem to
hold their value well. The racing Morgan's are still sought after and some
more than 30 years old.
"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
When old friends of mine wanted to upgrade their liveaboard home they
consulted their old
friend Giffy Full - a very well respected, retired surveyor, often
referred to as a
"legend" among wooden boat surveyors.

Giffy's advice was to seek out a Morgan 41. As it turned out, they were
unable to find
one to fit their budget, and ended up with a Gulfstar 41, with price
reduced because of a
"spongy" deck.



"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced
those
problems though. We were all kinda' scratching our heads after reading
the
review. I did look at the add for the boatyard with the note about
Benetau's
warranty work. Is blistering that common on Benetau's that a yard would
use
up precious advertising space to specifically advertise this service.
Why
would someone build a boat these days that would blister so badly that
marinas would advertise for this when its known what causes blisters and
how
to avoid certain techniques and materials when building a boat so as not
to
get blisters. I saw a few Benetaus at the Columbus Day Regatta in Miami
a
few weeks ago. Sharp lookin' boats, but that would scare me if I saw
that as
a prospective buyer. Is it Donal that owns a Benetau? If so how many
years
and is he having any problems? Why wouldn't Benetau recall these boats
and
try to prevent the blistering with a barrier coat?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The reviewer mentioned
spongy decks, badly blistered hulls and failing hull/deck joints as
very
common on the 41 Morgan OI series and OI series in general.

Don't worry, newer Beneteau's have the same problems and some people
like
to
think that they're fine boats anyway.

RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
Is it Donal that owns a Benetau? If so how many years
and is he having any problems? Why wouldn't Benetau recall these boats
and
try to prevent the blistering with a barrier coat?

Yes, I have a Beneteau. It is 5 years old, and I've only had one minor
problem, which the dealer sorted out very quickly. I know a few other
owners, and they all seem happy with their choice.

I'm very pleased with the boat.


You have to try to understand Bobsprit's position. He has never owned a
boat that he felt proud of. So he keeps knocking other peoples' boats.
Everything about his life is "second best" and he tries to compensate by
being offensive to people who are more fortunate than he is. He even admits
that his boats are "stepping stones".


Take a look at his recent posts. He has been busy scouring the internet
for negative comments about other peoples' boats, which he then posts to
newsgroups. How sad is that? I think that I must have inadvertently
upset him a few years ago, and although I have always been polite to him he
still seems to be a bit angry. Lately, he has begun posting outright lies.

So take everything that Bob says with a bit of salt.



Regards


Donal
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Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

You have to try to understand Bobsprit's position. He has never owned a
boat that he felt proud of. So he keeps knocking other peoples' boats.

Not true.
I rated Mooron's boat as among the best in this group. While I don't like the
Express it's also well built. Skitch' IP 31 is a great boat, even if heavy and
slow. Jeff's PDQ is an excellent boat.
I only bash a boat that I know to be of poor quailty. This has been proven
again and again, so why claim otherwise?

Damn, that was devastating, eh?!

RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

the perpetual flame war that is asa

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

Now he says he doesn't like the Express. Guess it
was the "other" bobspit that posted the following?

From: (Bobsprit)
Message-ID:

I like the express boats a lot, though the 30is a
bit small for us after the P30.

From: (Bobsprit)
Message-ID:

That said, Loco, I like the Express 30. The J 30
is too strange

From: (Bobsprit)
Message-ID:

You know I like the Express


--
----
Steve
S/V Pony Express


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
: While I don't like the
: Express it's also well built.
:
: RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

Now he says he doesn't like the Express. Guess it
was the "other" bobspit that posted the following?

It's a good boat. I've always said so. I just don't care for the looks, but
it's way better built than any Beneteau.
Perhaps you don't agree?

RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

What're you? A wise guy?

RB

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in a
bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about boats
though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you intended.
"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

Am I a stone? If you cut me do I not bleed?=20

Oh, good gravy....I take it all back...I humbly beg your =
forgiveness...(but my boat is still a good boat, too...)

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced =
those
problems though.=20

All the Morgan owners I've known have been very happy with their boats. =
Three of them were long time liveaboards and found them to be very =
functional for that purpose.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein