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Simple Simon November 1st 03 01:38 AM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 
One out of ten can be attributed to other factors
in the 'unknown's category.

S.Simon


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
So, 1 out of 10 isn't a lay-up or resin problem?

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
You show a great deal of ignorance. Where has your head
been during the past ten years or so. Blistering has been
figured out. You need to read the link I posted in the
"blistering explained" thread. Blistering is 90 percent
due to poor lay-up procedures and cheap resin.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message

...
Ya have to read between the lines. The boob, our resident idiot savant,

has
a serious inferiority complex, thus, his problems with Donal and just

about
everybody else in the group. Boob is what is commonly referred to as a
"troll". Go to any search engine and type in "usenet" and "troll", and

read
on. Boob perceives that everyone else in the group is a better sailor,

or
owns a better boat, thus his constant attempts to prove otherwise. BTW,

the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats. It was a fairly widespread problem in the late '70's and early

80's,
I've read various explanations as to the exact cause, none of which had
anything to do with the "quality" of the manufacturer. Indeed, even

Bristol
had problems with blistering, look in any magazine and see what the

asking
price for a early 80's 41.1 is. Boob does provide the group with

endless
comedic relief, but it is definitely lowbrow comedy at best.
John Cairns
"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
Its odd that none of the Morgan owners that I know have experienced

those
problems though. We were all kinda' scratching our heads after reading

the
review. I did look at the add for the boatyard with the note about
Benetau's
warranty work. Is blistering that common on Benetau's that a yard

would
use
up precious advertising space to specifically advertise this service.

Why
would someone build a boat these days that would blister so badly that
marinas would advertise for this when its known what causes blisters

and
how
to avoid certain techniques and materials when building a boat so as

not
to
get blisters. I saw a few Benetaus at the Columbus Day Regatta in

Miami a
few weeks ago. Sharp lookin' boats, but that would scare me if I saw

that
as
a prospective buyer. Is it Donal that owns a Benetau? If so how many

years
and is he having any problems? Why wouldn't Benetau recall these

boats
and
try to prevent the blistering with a barrier coat?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The reviewer mentioned
spongy decks, badly blistered hulls and failing hull/deck joints as
very
common on the 41 Morgan OI series and OI series in general.

Don't worry, newer Beneteau's have the same problems and some people
like
to
think that they're fine boats anyway.

RB











Maynard G. Krebbs November 1st 03 01:54 AM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:23:33 -0500, "John Cairns"
wrote:

Ya have to read between the lines. The boob, our resident idiot savant, has
a serious inferiority complex, thus, his problems with Donal and just about
everybody else in the group. Boob is what is commonly referred to as a
"troll". Go to any search engine and type in "usenet" and "troll", and read
on. Boob perceives that everyone else in the group is a better sailor, or
owns a better boat, thus his constant attempts to prove otherwise. BTW, the
blistering issue is generally considered a non-starter with contemporary
boats. It was a fairly widespread problem in the late '70's and early 80's,
I've read various explanations as to the exact cause, none of which had
anything to do with the "quality" of the manufacturer. Indeed, even Bristol
had problems with blistering, look in any magazine and see what the asking
price for a early 80's 41.1 is. Boob does provide the group with endless
comedic relief, but it is definitely lowbrow comedy at best.
John Cairns


(snip)

Sorry to disagree concerning Bob. Bob is really an ordinary guy who
comes to this newsgroup to play.
He's a regular guy on other newsgroups.
No secret because he doesn't even change NICK or ADDY.
Mark E. Williams


Simple Simon November 1st 03 02:05 AM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message ...

Sorry to disagree concerning Bob. Bob is really an ordinary guy who
comes to this newsgroup to play.
He's a regular guy on other newsgroups.
No secret because he doesn't even change NICK or ADDY.
Mark E. Williams



In other words he has no life. Spends most of his time
posting to newsgroups. Lies about sailing. Lies about
most everything.

S.Simon



Lady Pilot November 1st 03 03:18 AM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Brian McAloon" wrote:

I've heard about Neal on the Morgan List at sailnet.
Boy those pics of some of his
conquests! It seems he's quite the Lady's man! How do you girls resist

him?

Hahahaa! Just look into his eyes....

LP



Lady Pilot November 1st 03 03:56 AM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Donal" wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote:
If you loved your vessel, you would keep her for more than two years!

Donal tells us that love of a boat is determined by length of ownership.


Perhaps love is demonstrated by length of comminment??


Well, Donal, I'm not sure Capt. Mooron would argue that point...

LP



Lady Pilot November 1st 03 03:57 AM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
You are very funny!

LP

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. ..
You can say anything you want about her.
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

thank the gods
you didn't think I was referring to your wife!







Capt. Mooron November 1st 03 12:24 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:iaGob.68894$B_2.41425@okepread02...
|
| "Donal" wrote:
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote:
| If you loved your vessel, you would keep her for more than two
years!
|
| Donal tells us that love of a boat is determined by length of
ownership.
|
| Perhaps love is demonstrated by length of comminment??
|
| Well, Donal, I'm not sure Capt. Mooron would argue that point...

12 years with the same boat.... it was love at first sight! :-)

CM



Bobsprit November 1st 03 02:49 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Donal tells us that love of a boat is determined by length of ownership.

Perhaps love is demonstrated by length of comminment??

Commitment shouldn't prevent opertunity. Turning down the 34XL would be a huge
loss and a mistake from any perspective.
We'd be throwing away money, comfort, fun and even time by not taking her..
Sorry, Donal. As usual, your limited thinking leaves you helpless and with no
point!

RB

Simple Simon November 1st 03 07:17 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 



"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:XCFob.68572$B_2.49495@okepread02...

"Brian McAloon" wrote:

I've heard about Neal on the Morgan List at sailnet.
Boy those pics of some of his
conquests! It seems he's quite the Lady's man! How do you girls resist

him?



Hahahaa! Just look into his eyes....
LP


Yes, the intelligence and understanding therein
is quite intimidating to those women playing their
usual games. Such as LP know they haven't a
chance to get away with their usual crap.

S.Simon



Rick November 1st 03 09:56 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Simple Simon wrote:
The Morgan Out Island series was just your typical
motorboat with sails.


Oh, so it's one of those boats you are "certified" to operate so long as
you don't raise the sails ...

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hey Nil, are you gonna try for a sail endorsement when you renew or
don't you have the sailing time yet?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Rick


Simple Simon November 1st 03 10:04 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
The sailing endorsement is a waste of time and money.

I can captain a sailboat totally legally as long as it
has an auxiliary.

S.Simon


"Rick" wrote in message k.net...
Simple Simon wrote:
The Morgan Out Island series was just your typical
motorboat with sails.


Oh, so it's one of those boats you are "certified" to operate so long as
you don't raise the sails ...

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hey Nil, are you gonna try for a sail endorsement when you renew or
don't you have the sailing time yet?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Rick




Simple Simon November 1st 03 10:09 PM

Rick is a dick - plain and simple.
 

"Rick" wrote in message k.net...
snipped Rick's usual garbage post

S.Simon



Schoonertrash November 1st 03 10:11 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
And the auxilary is running . . .and it's in gear . . .and the prop is
spinning . . . . .and the docklines are untied .. . . etc. But then
considering the way I wasted the last year and half who am I to talk.....

MST





Rick November 1st 03 10:29 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Simple Simon wrote:

The sailing endorsement is a waste of time and money.

I can captain a sailboat totally legally as long as it
has an auxiliary.


Make sure you tell that to the people at the REC when you go in for your
renewal. They will be fascinated with your interpretation of the regs
and may even ask you to teach classes for them.

Do you even know what an "auxiliary" is?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Rick


Rick November 1st 03 10:32 PM

Rick is a dick - plain and simple.
 
Simple Simon wrote:

The usual panic stricken response to getting caught in another
ill-considered and incredibly ignorant statement ...

Tell us about your motorboat license and how it covers sailboats with
"auxiliary" bits.

Bwahahahahahahaahahahhaahahahahahahahah

Rick


Donal November 1st 03 11:29 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Donal tells us that love of a boat is determined by length of ownership.


Perhaps love is demonstrated by length of comminment??

Commitment shouldn't prevent opertunity.


Let's get this straight. You are committed to Suzanne BUT, if the
opportunity came along, then you would ditch her!


Turning down the 34XL would be a huge
loss and a mistake from any perspective.


Just like turning down a better looking woman would be a huge loss???

We'd be throwing away money, comfort, fun and even time by not taking

her..
Sorry, Donal. As usual, your limited thinking leaves you helpless and with

no
point!



So ...... when will Suzanne be replaced?


Regards


Donal
--




Bobsprit November 1st 03 11:31 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Let's get this straight. You are committed to Suzanne BUT, if the
opportunity came along, then you would ditch her!

You think committment and loyalty are the same thing? You think true love and
committment are also the same thing?
You need help, fella!!!

Bwahahahahahahaha! Donal is "in love" with his boat and "loyal" to Beneteau!
Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit November 1st 03 11:32 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
So ...... when will Suzanne be replaced?

Imagine the kind of guy who sees an easy comparison between a boat and a woman?
No need to imagine, because heeeeeeere's Donal!!!

You really harpooned yourself, bub.

RB

Donal November 1st 03 11:32 PM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

In other words he has no life. Spends most of his time
posting to newsgroups. Lies about sailing. Lies about
most everything.


Don't be so cruel! I'm sure that Bob is a regular guy. He doesn't
deserve this contempt, he deserves our sympathy.




Regards


Donal
--




Bobsprit November 1st 03 11:36 PM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 
I'm sure that Bob is a regular guy. He doesn't
deserve this contempt, he deserves our sympathy.

Regular guys deserve sympathy? Anyone getting some insight into Donal's
character or lack of....?

And I hardly had to out him!

RB

Donal November 2nd 03 12:00 AM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I'm sure that Bob is a regular guy. He doesn't
deserve this contempt, he deserves our sympathy.

Regular guys deserve sympathy? Anyone getting some insight into Donal's
character or lack of....?

And I hardly had to out him!


Bob, If you feel upset with me, then you only have to say so. I will
apologise immediately if I have hurt your feelings.



Sorry


Donal
--




Donal November 2nd 03 12:03 AM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Let's get this straight. You are committed to Suzanne BUT, if the
opportunity came along, then you would ditch her!

You think committment and loyalty are the same thing? You think true love

and
committment are also the same thing?
You need help, fella!!!

Bwahahahahahahaha! Donal is "in love" with his boat and "loyal" to

Beneteau!
Bwahahahahaha!


Heh heh!



Regards


Donal
--





Bobsprit November 2nd 03 12:04 AM

Bobsprit is inferior - plain and simple.
 
And I hardly had to out him!

Bob, If you feel upset with me, then you only have to say so.


Bwahahaha! A bold effort for the exposed Donal to suddenly act human.
Too late.

RB

Bobsprit November 2nd 03 12:22 AM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Bwahahahahahahaha! Donal is "in love" with his boat and "loyal" to
Beneteau!
Bwahahahahaha!


Heh heh!

It's good that you can laugh at yourself. It's an important step for you. I'm
trying, truly, to help you gain a healthy perspective and not be so consumed
with the lives of others.

Your friend,

RB

Simple Simon November 2nd 03 02:46 AM

Rick is a dick - plain and simple.
 
You're pretty stupid if you have to ask.

S.Simon


"Rick" wrote in message k.net...

Tell us about your motorboat license and how it covers sailboats with
"auxiliary" bits.

Bwahahahahahahaahahahhaahahahahahahahah

Rick




Rick November 2nd 03 08:51 AM

Nil wishes he had a dick - plain and simple.
 
Simple Simon wrote:

You're pretty stupid if you can't answer.


So tell us Nil, how your little motorboat license covers any kind of
sailboat at all?

Rick


Jonathan Ganz November 2nd 03 06:52 PM

Nil wishes he had a dick - plain and simple.
 
Ummm... bathroom wallpaper? Just a guess....

"Rick" wrote in message
nk.net...
Simple Simon wrote:

You're pretty stupid if you can't answer.


So tell us Nil, how your little motorboat license covers any kind of
sailboat at all?

Rick




The_navigator© November 2nd 03 08:28 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Humble? You Kook? Bwhahhahahhahahahah

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:

Am I a stone? If you cut me do I not bleed?

Oh, good gravy....I take it all back...I humbly beg your forgiveness...(but my boat is still a good boat, too...)



The_navigator© November 2nd 03 08:29 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Well let's just say we?


Cheers MC

The Captains Nemesis wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:30:48 +1300, The_navigator©
wrote:


Awwwwwwww cmon. Even you must realize that ain't gonna happen! I'm the
only one with a boat worth owning here!

Cheers MC



Nah, not the only one.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




katysails November 2nd 03 10:57 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Humble? You Kook? Bwhahhahahhahahahah

Like I said before, I have my moments...rare though they be....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


The_navigator© November 3rd 03 08:30 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Ah the flames are still strong then.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:

No, just not married.
"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Ah the flames are still strong then.

Cheers MC


Brian McAloon wrote:


You can say anything you want about her.
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
.. .

thank the gods


you didn't think I was referring to your wife!








The_navigator© November 3rd 03 08:32 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Well you won't last long then.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:

I would never try to upset anyone. I'm to nice of a guy.
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
t...

I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in


a

bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about


boats

though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you intended.


No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days


here.

Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).



"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.


Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--









Brian McAloon November 3rd 03 10:20 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
That's ok too. You may see me debating issues with other subscribers of this
group but I'll never intentionally be insulting or abusive. This is the
internet where 99.999% of what you see and read is bull****. Any one here
that insults me probably won't get the desired response. Anyways, you all
have your hands full with each other.
"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
Well you won't last long then.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:

I would never try to upset anyone. I'm to nice of a guy.
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
t...

I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in


a

bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about


boats

though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you

intended.

No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days


here.

Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).



"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
...

If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--











The_navigator© November 3rd 03 10:30 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
One post in 100,000 is not BS? Now that is not right is it? .asa posts
more factual information than almost any other NG. In fact is it know
world wide as a veritable font of sailing, political, moral, medical and
scientific knowledge. It is only other posters like Booby, Doug Holly
who detract from such an outstanding reputation! Their saving grace is
their occasional humor (excluding Doug who seems to have lost his
humour in an earlier age). Remember 16,000 lurkers can't be wrong!

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:
This is the
internet where 99.999% of what you see and read is bull****.



The_navigator© November 3rd 03 10:33 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
If you can't be intentioanlly insulting and abusive you will never
become a true sailor. The true sailor can be most abuse and insulting
but he does it with a smile in his heart. You really need to aspire to
greater things m'lad.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:

That's ok too. You may see me debating issues with other subscribers of this
group but I'll never intentionally be insulting or abusive. This is the
internet where 99.999% of what you see and read is bull****. Any one here
that insults me probably won't get the desired response. Anyways, you all
have your hands full with each other.
"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Well you won't last long then.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:


I would never try to upset anyone. I'm to nice of a guy.
"Donal" wrote in message
.. .


"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. net...


I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were in

a


bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about

boats


though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you


intended.

No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days

here.


Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).




"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
om...


If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--











Brian McAloon November 3rd 03 10:37 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
I agree that there is lot of good info here and very knowledgeable sailors.
Maybe my internet bull**** math is a little of on this newsgroup but you
know what I mean.
"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
One post in 100,000 is not BS? Now that is not right is it? .asa posts
more factual information than almost any other NG. In fact is it know
world wide as a veritable font of sailing, political, moral, medical and
scientific knowledge. It is only other posters like Booby, Doug Holly
who detract from such an outstanding reputation! Their saving grace is
their occasional humor (excluding Doug who seems to have lost his
humour in an earlier age). Remember 16,000 lurkers can't be wrong!

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:
This is the
internet where 99.999% of what you see and read is bull****.





katysails November 3rd 03 11:02 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Anyways, you all
have your hands full with each other.

Isn't that rather insulting to allude to the group as collectively gay?

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Brian McAloon November 3rd 03 11:17 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
"intentioanlly insulting and abusive" Got it and I promise to work on that.
"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
If you can't be intentioanlly insulting and abusive you will never
become a true sailor. The true sailor can be most abuse and insulting
but he does it with a smile in his heart. You really need to aspire to
greater things m'lad.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:

That's ok too. You may see me debating issues with other subscribers of

this
group but I'll never intentionally be insulting or abusive. This is the
internet where 99.999% of what you see and read is bull****. Any one

here
that insults me probably won't get the desired response. Anyways, you

all
have your hands full with each other.
"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...

Well you won't last long then.

Cheers MC

Brian McAloon wrote:


I would never try to upset anyone. I'm to nice of a guy.
"Donal" wrote in message
.. .


"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
. net...


I wonder what would happen after a few beers if the two of them were

in

a


bar. Yikes! I guess everything would be ok if they don't talk about

boats


though. Then again bob would probably start in on Donal about how

much
better his choice of beverage was. No offense to either of you


intended.

No offence taken.
I'd be very impressed if you managed to upset me after only a few days

here.


Bob has been trying for years - and he hasn't managed it yet! I'm

very
thick skinned ( and Bob isn't very talented).




"A. Diesel Vents" wrote in message
om...


If all of you would sit down over beers and swap lie^Wstories, you'd
probably get along just fine.

Oi ! Spoilsport!



Regards


Donal
--













Brian McAloon November 3rd 03 11:17 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
Wait a minute,,,,
"katysails" wrote in message
...
Anyways, you all
have your hands full with each other.

Isn't that rather insulting to allude to the group as collectively gay?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




Jonathan Ganz November 3rd 03 11:49 PM

Bobsprit is superior - plain and simple.
 
That's what she said....

"Brian McAloon" wrote in message
t...
Wait a minute,,,,
"katysails" wrote in message
...
Anyways, you all
have your hands full with each other.

Isn't that rather insulting to allude to the group as collectively gay?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein







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