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Black water?
When looking through specs on very large cruising yachts I see the terms
referring to "black and grey" water in addition to regular fresh water tankage. Can someone explain-is this tankage for not potable use, such as heads and such? Thanks! RB |
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Never heard of black water. However, water that is usable but not potable
is usually referred to as grey water. This would be like water from the sinks, etc. On land this water is usually used for irrigation usage, usually watering the lawn and maybe washing the car. Therefore I will make a guess that black water is strictly from the head. If there is a separation between black and grey water check to see if the 34(36) has three holding tanks, one for potable water, another for water from the kitchen and lavatory sinks, and a third for holding crap and stuff. |
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If there is a
separation between black and grey water check to see if the 34(36) has three holding tanks, one for potable water, another for water from the kitchen and lavatory sinks, and a third for holding crap and stuff. This Black/Grey/Water designation is something I see in specs for mega yachts generally. Like my C&C 32, the 36 has two fresh water tanks. RB |
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No holding tank? I guess if you only day sail you don't need one.
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... If there is a separation between black and grey water check to see if the 34(36) has three holding tanks, one for potable water, another for water from the kitchen and lavatory sinks, and a third for holding crap and stuff. This Black/Grey/Water designation is something I see in specs for mega yachts generally. Like my C&C 32, the 36 has two fresh water tanks. RB |
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No holding tank? I guess if you only day sail you don't need one
Uh, Jeff, the holding tank is not listed under "fresh water" tankage. Remind me to bring bottled water if I ever pay you a visit! Zikes! RB |
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Context, Bob, context. You made two posts about total tankage, not just fresh water, and
even named the thread "black water." Since you never stay out long enough to use the head you probably don't appreciate that black water size can be more important than fresh water size. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... No holding tank? I guess if you only day sail you don't need one Uh, Jeff, the holding tank is not listed under "fresh water" tankage. Remind me to bring bottled water if I ever pay you a visit! Zikes! RB |
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My understanding, in a nutshell, is that "black water" comes from the
toilet, and "grey water" comes from the sink. Bobsprit wrote: When looking through specs on very large cruising yachts I see the terms referring to "black and grey" water in addition to regular fresh water tankage. Can someone explain-is this tankage for not potable use, such as heads and such? Thanks! RB |
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Context, Bob, context. You made two posts about total tankage, not just fresh
water, and even named the thread "black water." Sorry, Jeff, but my post about the C&C refers specifically to FRESH WATER. See below. Your comment also refered to the C&C, so it's you who missed the context, which was exact. This Black/Grey/Water designation is something I see in specs for mega yachts generally. Like my C&C 32, the 36 has two fresh water tanks. I win again...a somewhat meager victory, but a victory all the same! Yahhhoooooie! RB |
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My understanding, in a nutshell, is that "black water" comes from the
toilet, and "grey water" comes from the sink. So why is grey water and potable water not the same. Why not support a greater fresh water system overall and eliminate the grey water? RB |
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Good Lord!??
Yes, may I help you? RB |
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Holy Bilge Water!
He said grey water "comes from the sink," not "from the sink faucet." Most of us consider this to be a significant difference! "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... My understanding, in a nutshell, is that "black water" comes from the toilet, and "grey water" comes from the sink. So why is grey water and potable water not the same. Why not support a greater fresh water system overall and eliminate the grey water? RB |
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That's a "victory"? No wonder you think you're a winner.
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I win again...a somewhat meager victory, but a victory all the same! Yahhhoooooie! RB |
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He said grey water "comes from the sink," not "from the sink faucet." Most
of us consider this to be a significant difference! So grey water is fresh-waste water other than what used in the head? I was not aware that such systems had to be pumped out on yachts of around 80 feet. What are the regs on waste water from a sink? On a small boat they typically drain overboard. RB |
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There is no difference, none at all. In fact, you should connect all your
tanks together with 2'' hose, thereby increasing total capacity. Scotty wrote in message ... On 24 Oct 2003 10:36:25 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote: When looking through specs on very large cruising yachts I see the terms referring to "black and grey" water in addition to regular fresh water tankage. Can someone explain-is this tankage for not potable use, such as heads and such? Holy Moly! BB |
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feet. What are the regs on waste water from a sink? On a small boat they
typically drain overboard. RB Wowsers Batman! I just looked it up for the LIS. Interesting. I'm betting Billy jane has no idea what the regs are. By the way, some superyachts don't carry grey water tankage and do indeed combine them as I suspected. Looks like Jane got it wrong again! Hooooo ahhh! RB |
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Well BB, this has provided with my best laugh in weeks, the great expert in
all things nautical doesn't have even a passing awareness of any sanitary regulations as they apply to marine vessels. ROTFLMAO So let me get this straight...I have the ONLY sailboat that drains sink water directly overboard! You heard it hear 1st!!!! Marty, you just dunked your head in the same pile of crap Billy Jane lives in! RB |
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I just looked it up for the LIS. Interesting. I'm betting Billy jane has no
idea what the regs are. It has nothing to do with regs, idiot! Sure does. And it also depends on the size of a vessel. Regs are quite specific. I already got the answer from the Yachting Magazine forum and you don't know what you're talking about! Busted again! RB |
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I'm not the one drinking used bath water - you are! What a complete
dunce! Still want to combine your gray water with your fresh water? Hey, girly boy, how much grey water tankage does your boat have? Hmmmmm??!! How about the C&C 36? Busted! RB |
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Bobsprit wrote:
Well BB, this has provided with my best laugh in weeks, the great expert in all things nautical doesn't have even a passing awareness of any sanitary regulations as they apply to marine vessels. ROTFLMAO So let me get this straight...I have the ONLY sailboat that drains sink water directly overboard! You heard it hear 1st!!!! Marty, you just dunked your head in the same pile of crap Billy Jane lives in! RB Keep flapping Boobs, Anyone ever tell you that you're nuts! Cheers Marty |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Well BB, this has provided with my best laugh in weeks, the great expert in all things nautical doesn't have even a passing awareness of any sanitary regulations as they apply to marine vessels. ROTFLMAO So let me get this straight...I have the ONLY sailboat that drains sink water directly overboard! Wrong. You are the only person here who doesn't know what "grey" water means. You also demonstrate your incredibly limited thinking once again. These Mega Yachts that you have referred to, are very likely to visit the Mediterranian. So they need to meet the regulations that are in force in the Med, (and any other places that they may wish to visit). You heard it hear 1st!!!! Yep! Regards Donal -- |
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Lets all bear in mind that Bobby Sue started this thread asking about
the difference between "gray water" and "black water"!!! How is this an issue for boats under 50 feet? RB |
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My C&C 27 doesn't have gray water tankage. If I took extended cruises
where fresh water was going to be in short supply, I would have gray water tankage, along with a system for recycling it. I would also take a bigger boat. For 7-10 day jaunts around the LIS, it's not an issue. I'm surprised the 27 has any tankage. I know plenty of people who cruise long distance. They don't have gray water tankage. They have watermakers! Grey water goes over, dummy! RB |
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These Mega Yachts that you have referred to, are very likely to visit the
Mediterranian. So they need to meet the regulations that are in force in the Med, (and any other places that they may wish to visit). So then why would this be something to know? Not exactly important info. I only see it listed for HUGE yachts. Has nothing to do with anyone here. RB |
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Keep flapping Boobs,
Anyone ever tell you that you're nuts! Still waiting to hear what grey water has to do with the boats the people in this group sail. And waiting... And waiting... RB |
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I would have gray
water tankage, along with a system for recycling it. Sweet jesus. It's 1955 again! RB |
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Any idea as to the difference in power consumption between making
potable water from the ocean and making potable water from gray water? On a proper boat with modern charging systems running a watermaker direct works fine. My boat had a watermaker installed when I bought her/ No grey water tankage. The 34XL has a water maker. No grey water tankage. The world cruising Hughes 38 at my yard doesn't carry grey water, nor does the Valiant 40 that heads south each November. You know NOTHING, Jane! Buy a real boat and then open your wrinkled yap! Bwahahahaha! RB |
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I'm not the one asking the newbie questions. Many boats do not have
things that other boats have. Many boats have things that other boats do not have. What's your point, if you have one? So should I also know all about bow thrusters? How about large deck mounted windless systems? How about a solid vang? Do I need to be an expert in those before I actually use one on my own boat? Jane, I assure you I've sailed more boats than you ever will! Billy Jane. you remain a total idiot. RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... These Mega Yachts that you have referred to, are very likely to visit the Mediterranian. So they need to meet the regulations that are in force in the Med, (and any other places that they may wish to visit). So then why would this be something to know? Not exactly important info. I only see it listed for HUGE yachts. Has nothing to do with anyone here. Don't you ever step aboard a Mega Yacht at a Boat Show? You should! It might help you to achieve more in life. Regards Donal -- |
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OK, you've held your breath long enough.
I've sailed many times in places where grey water discharge is not permitted - though I'll admit not very often in boats big enough to have grey water facilities. But sailors with trailer boats definitely have to understand this issue, since grey water discharge is not allow in many fresh water lakes - including most of them in your home state. When I brought my current boat down from Toronto I looked into the Lake Champlain route - I was told that I could get hassled because of the grey water issues. Though technically not illegal, the local authorities don't like to see soap subs around the boat. We ended up doing the Erie Canal. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Keep flapping Boobs, Anyone ever tell you that you're nuts! Still waiting to hear what grey water has to do with the boats the people in this group sail. And waiting... And waiting... RB |
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Knowing at least a little might be nice. Knowing the difference
between greay water and black water But you just said you don't have a boat with grey water. None of us do. So how is this "basic" knowledge? It's not mentioned in any of my sailing books. Should I buy a plumbing book? Tee hee! It's like beating a baby with his own candy! RB |
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see it listed for HUGE yachts. Has nothing to do with anyone here.
Don't you ever step aboard a Mega Yacht at a Boat Show? Nope. Not interested in mega yachts. RB |
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You should! It might help you to achieve more in life.
Yeah! This grey water thing is probably why I didn't start with a Swan! RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... see it listed for HUGE yachts. Has nothing to do with anyone here. Don't you ever step aboard a Mega Yacht at a Boat Show? Nope. Not interested in mega yachts. I'm really quite shocked. That is the most revealing thing that you have ever written about yourself!! It explains why you will never own anything more than a "stepping stone". It also explains your degree of success at film making, doesn't it? BTW ... it also explains why you cannot understand how my boat cost nothing! Meanwhile, each and every, stepping stone that you purchase has to be an incredible bargain. The rest of us have already bought our dream boats. You are condemned to a life of second choices. Regards Donal -- |
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When looking through specs on very large cruising yachts I see the terms
referring to "black and grey" water in addition to regular fresh water tankage. Can someone explain-is this tankage for not potable use, such as heads and such? He knows nothing about boats. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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Nope. Not interested in mega yachts.
I'm really quite shocked. That is the most revealing thing that you have ever written about yourself!! It explains why you will never own anything more than a "stepping stone". Why would anyone who actually likes to sail be interested in a mega yacht? Oh, right...you're a Beneteau owner! RB |
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The rest of us have already bought our dream boats.
Wow. A Beneteau as a dream boat. Even if it were true, one would hope you'd have enough self respect not to write such a thing. I'm sorry, Donal. I had no idea things were so bad for you. RB |
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