Vito wrote:


JFK DID close the bases in Turkey

Yep... some of them.

and we DID have a massive first strike
capability that Kruschev was very much aware of

Yep again. Which JFK did not give up.


so I believe Kruschev
this time.

That makes you a willing participant in what Lenin (real name Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov) fondly called
'dialectic materialism.' Look it up.


At least he never claimed to be a jelly donut (c:

Good point.



The Emperor Bao Dai (sp?) established a Brit-type constitutional
monarchy with Ho as everybody calls him) as PM.

Never happened. Bao Dai *did* appoint Diem as his Prime Minister at one point, not Uncle Ho. The Communist
insurgents perceived the Emperor as a French colonialist puppet (which he most likely was).



His command of the largest & best armed insurgent group put him in position to assume power.

Yup, that's why BD appointed him PM.

You need to do some reading, or perhaps talk to somebody who actually knows history instead of making it up.



He never worked for us. Some of the Vietnamese insurgent groups worked with the
OSS and returned downed fliers during WW2.

Where do you suppose he got the $$$ and equipment needed to have "the
largest & best armed insurgent group" if not from OSS?

Umm... from the Comintern? Russia's support of the Viet Mihn (and several other South East Asian insurgent
groups) is well documented. Ho Chi Mihn studied in Moscow. He was a well travelled man, he also spent time in
Paris & New York.




AFAIK there were no "Communist insurgents" worth mentioning in 'Nam *at
the time*

In that case, you don't know squat.

The insurgency against the French started before the French so much as completed their conquest of Viet Nam.
There were self-proclaimed Communist insurgents & revolutionaries in Viet Nam in the 1920s.

Again, you need to learn some real history instead of the made-up kind.




Read the treaty. Under it, Jap forces were to report to local
governments and act as military/police to maintain order until local
forces could be reestablished. In 'nam that was the emperor and his PM.
Then think again: Brits had no significant role in what'd been French
Indo-China before WW2 nor thereafter.

No, but they had the largest military force in the area.

http://www.historychannel.com/tdih/vietnam/0926.html



....Prefacing BS with fact is a worn out debating tactic...

Is that why you fall back on insults & fantasy?

DSK