And during the same period how many new jobs were created or restored? What
is the baseline? In and of itself the figures are meaningless without some
sort of definition of meaning.

Easy way to create jobs? Enforce the criminal alien laws and keep the jobs
for Americans. Some, the anti-labor faction primarily, say that Americans
will not do this sort of work. At criminal alien wage levels of course not.
But do you REALLY think McDonalds is going to close up if they can't pay low
rates to illegals? Not hardly. What will happen is the wages will rise to
their natural level until the jobs are filled or some sort of machine will
be installed to do the same job. Which translates into income for those who
invent, manufacture, market, install and maintain those machines. Those who
encourage the invasion of illegals willing to work for pennies (can't blame
them actually) accomplish an artificial depression of wage levels, steal
jobs from US Citizens, and encourage the use of illegal labor . They also
cheat society out of tax income. Sales tax, income tax etc. etc. etc. All
so people like Bobspit and his cronies can buy 99 cent burgers instead of
spending $1.49. That's really COLD!

Of course when you are personally selfish, uncaring and greedy promoting the
'general' welfare doesn't matter. Only 'self' matters.

We need to promote family wage grade jobs for all of our citizens .. . not
just the greedy few who would exploit their fellow citizens and the
illegals.

MST

So, you're saying that you would like to work as a farm worker?

Now if you're talking about exporting work to say India, then
we might have a meaningful discussion.

"Schoonertrash" wrote in message
...
And during the same period how many new jobs were created or restored?
What
is the baseline? In and of itself the figures are meaningless without
some
sort of definition of meaning.

Easy way to create jobs? Enforce the criminal alien laws and keep the
jobs
for Americans. Some, the anti-labor faction primarily, say that Americans
will not do this sort of work. At criminal alien wage levels of course
not.
But do you REALLY think McDonalds is going to close up if they can't pay
low
rates to illegals? Not hardly. What will happen is the wages will rise
to
their natural level until the jobs are filled or some sort of machine will
be installed to do the same job. Which translates into income for those
who
invent, manufacture, market, install and maintain those machines. Those
who
encourage the invasion of illegals willing to work for pennies (can't
blame
them actually) accomplish an artificial depression of wage levels, steal
jobs from US Citizens, and encourage the use of illegal labor . They also
cheat society out of tax income. Sales tax, income tax etc. etc. etc.
All
so people like Bobspit and his cronies can buy 99 cent burgers instead of
spending $1.49. That's really COLD!

Of course when you are personally selfish, uncaring and greedy promoting
the
'general' welfare doesn't matter. Only 'self' matters.

We need to promote family wage grade jobs for all of our citizens .. . not
just the greedy few who would exploit their fellow citizens and the
illegals.

MST

Sure . . . .and I've done so. Except for shearing sheep. But the point
is . . . .. that work will never pay enough to get people to do it as long
as it's easier to import cheap, illegal labor from Mexico. But then that
isn't the point. Artificially depressing the cost of labor so you can still
get a 99 cent burger rather than paying a fair wage is what's important ..
.. along with stuffing ballot boxes.

Have a nice day!!! Remember California USED to be part of Mexico. Damn
shame you all gave it back.

MST

But you didn't say you enjoyed nor did you say you'd do
it again for even double what they currently pay farm workers....

"Schoonertrash" wrote in message
...
Sure . . . .and I've done so. Except for shearing sheep. But the point
is . . . .. that work will never pay enough to get people to do it as long
as it's easier to import cheap, illegal labor from Mexico. But then that
isn't the point. Artificially depressing the cost of labor so you can
still
get a 99 cent burger rather than paying a fair wage is what's important
...
. along with stuffing ballot boxes.

Have a nice day!!! Remember California USED to be part of Mexico. Damn
shame you all gave it back.

MST