You use cupholds at the bow?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I would say not very necessary. Mostly, they give you a false
sense of security at best. At worst, they're a hazard. On bigger
boats, when you're going up to the front a lot, I can justify them
I suppose.

Still, after all the dumb comments and useless advice, I have to step up
to the
plate and offer the only valid statements.
Lifelines are a must and this is why...
You can hang cupholders from them.

Capt RB

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You use cupholds at the bow?



Well Jon, you have too apply a little reason here. Consider that
Boobsies boat
is slip bound. Now if you're sitting on the dock by the bow, with
hibachi set
up grilling huge fat dripping polish sausages, (sort of a tail gate
party with
a marine motif), what more logical place for the cup holders? Except
that they
are not to hold cups but rather beer steins.

Cheers
Marty

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:04:07 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote:

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You use cupholds at the bow?



Well Jon, you have too apply a little reason here. Consider that
Boobsies boat
is slip bound. Now if you're sitting on the dock by the bow, with
hibachi set
up grilling huge fat dripping polish sausages, (sort of a tail gate
party with
a marine motif), what more logical place for the cup holders? Except
that they
are not to hold cups but rather beer steins.

Actually, that doesn't sound too bad to me.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| Lifelines are a must and this is why...
| You can hang cupholders from them.

Amatuer.... I went from the breast to the bottle. That trauma alone was
enough to restrict further excursions.

Cup... HAH!

CM

How old were you? 14?

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| Lifelines are a must and this is why...
| You can hang cupholders from them.

Amatuer.... I went from the breast to the bottle. That trauma alone was
enough to restrict further excursions.

Cup... HAH!

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Amatuer.... I went from the breast to the bottle. That trauma alone
was
enough to restrict further excursions.

Hmmm. Maybe you should go back to the breast then...

LP ;-)

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

| Hmmm. Maybe you should go back to the breast then...
|
| LP ;-)

I'm looking for a pair labeled Rum & Beer.....

CM

Wally wrote:

How neccessary are lifelines on a small boat like my 18-footer?

It depends

.... They don't
seem very functional to me - they barely reach knee height, there's no deck
to speak of along the sides of the coachroof, and they come down to the
sides around the cockpit - there's no pushpit, only a pulpit, and the most
aft stanchion is level with the back of the cabin.


That's true on most small cruisers. It makes slightly more sense to have
lifelines on a raised deck small boat.

It makes no sense whatever to have lifelines strung on stanchions that are too
weak to hold a person on deck if they fall heavily against the lifelines. But
it's a fairly common weakness.

My advice FWIW would be to take off the lifelines & stanchions, fiberglass over
the holes properly, and remount the bow pulpit properly. A bow pulpit can be a
godsend. Much more useful than the usual lifelines.



Before I make the final decision to remove them, is there anything I'm
missing about their function, such that removal would be a mistake?

Well, do you need them to hang fenders from or secure spring lines? Drying
towels & other laundry? Clamping a tent cover onto? Those are the usual
functions, since lifelines as commonly installed are next to useless for
preventing crew overboard. It sounds to me like you'd be better off removing
what you've got, fiberglass over, and if you decide you want them back, start
over from scratch.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

He likes to drink tea when throwing up.

I think Jane's getting a bit odd...

RB

DSK wrote:

My advice FWIW would be to take off the lifelines & stanchions,
fiberglass over the holes properly, and remount the bow pulpit
properly. A bow pulpit can be a godsend. Much more useful than the
usual lifelines.

I was planning on keeping the pulpit (and it does need remounting).


Before I make the final decision to remove them, is there anything
I'm missing about their function, such that removal would be a
mistake?

Well, do you need them to hang fenders from ...

That's a very good point. :-) Since I was planning to plug the holes with
bolts rather than glass over, maybe U-bolts of the right width would be a
better idea.


... or secure spring lines?

My feeling is that I'd rather use cleats for that - there are four around
the cockpit (two at the quarters, two mid-way along the sides), but only one
in the middle of the foredeck.


Drying towels & other laundry?

Unlikely. I'd rig a line if I needed to do that.


Clamping a tent cover onto?

A sheet of material described as a 'boom tent' came with the boat, but I
don't know how it attaches to the sides. I dare say I could find something
to tie it to if I ever wanted to use it.


Those are
the usual functions, since lifelines as commonly installed are next
to useless for preventing crew overboard.

I think I can find alternative ways of fulfilling those functions - my
concern was more about whether safety would be compromised.


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Wally
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