What's with the "Bwaaahahahah", it's a perfectly legimate question, why
do you need tube type
analogue preamp with a digital data stream?

Have you ever heard T2 or Chicago through tube based amps, while using a CJ 2ch
preamp to stage the LR channels?
How about older 1 or 2ch (All that Jazz, Conan or Casablanca for example) which
are rescued by such gear? In fact, ABS in LI ran a great demo with an old
Sonograph mono block tube stage just for the center channel and it was amazing.
Dialogue sounded far more natural an less bright.
I also run Rotel amps 1075 and 1080 with the PW2200 sub, which is better for
modern recordings.
You'd know more if you tried different gear, as I do. Loco is clearly working
off old issues of Stereophile, while running ancient Nad gear!

Hooooh ahhh!

RB

Have you ever heard T2 through tube based amps?

I just don't feel the need to use tube gear to reproduce explosions and car
crashes. As far as a tube amp for center channel dialog goes ...... get a
grip.
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I just don't feel the need to use tube gear to reproduce explosions and car
crashes.

Ahhh. I see. Sorry, but we also indulge in more refined cinema. There are no
explosions in All That Jazz, but lots of music.
Perhaps you should raise the bar a little on the films you watch.

Capt RB

As far as a tube amp for center channel dialog goes ...... get a
grip.

In other words, you were talking out of your ass again. Let us know if you ever
care enough about cimena or music to buy a proper system to reproduce it.

RB

Don't go backing him into a corner. All us electronic wizards know you
go D/A then amplify and distort and then go A/D before the power amp. ;-P

Cheers MC

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SAIL LOCO wrote:

My new CJ preamp cost more than your boat!

Conrad Johnson stuff is fine for music especially if you have pristine vinyl
and a quality turntable. For home theater it's not only a poor performer but
but a waste.
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Why would one need an analogue pre-amp when dealing with a digital data
stream?

Cheers
Marty

Bobsprit wrote:

What's with the "Bwaaahahahah", it's a perfectly legimate question, why
do you need tube type
analogue preamp with a digital data stream?

Have you ever heard T2 or Chicago through tube based amps, while using a CJ 2ch
preamp to stage the LR channels?
How about older 1 or 2ch (All that Jazz, Conan or Casablanca for example) which
are rescued by such gear? In fact, ABS in LI ran a great demo with an old
Sonograph mono block tube stage just for the center channel and it was amazing.
Dialogue sounded far more natural an less bright.
I also run Rotel amps 1075 and 1080 with the PW2200 sub, which is better for
modern recordings.
You'd know more if you tried different gear, as I do. Loco is clearly working
off old issues of Stereophile, while running ancient Nad gear!

Hooooh ahhh!

RB

That's very nice Bob, I've heard a good many bands, Chicago included,
with the
original tube amps, (as in I was at a live concert), I know what tube
amps sound
like, I'm not going to get into a discussion regarding their merits and
drawbacks.

The question was "why do need a tube type analogue preamp with a digital
data stream?", could
you address that issue please?

Oh, BTW, would you mind terribly dropping the charming schoolboy
rhetoric?

Cheers
Marty

The navigator© wrote:

Don't go backing him into a corner. All us electronic wizards know you
go D/A then amplify and distort and then go A/D before the power amp. ;-P

Cheers MC


Thanks for the enlightenment MC, nothing like a whopping great huge
chunk
of third harmonic distortion to "warm up" the sound. Wonder what the
slew rate
of one of those CJs is?

Cheers
Marty

The question was "why do need a tube type analogue preamp with a digital
data stream?", could
you address that issue please?

I just did. Chicago aint the band, it's the movie. You are aware of analogue
outs, yes? You can switch between them and a D-Link. As I've found out, it can
work wonders. I especially find it helpful on older films.

RB

Bobsprit wrote:

The question was "why do need a tube type analogue preamp with a digital
data stream?", could
you address that issue please?

I just did. Chicago aint the band, it's the movie. You are aware of analogue
outs, yes? You can switch between them and a D-Link. As I've found out, it can
work wonders. I especially find it helpful on older films.

RB

let me see if I've got this right, you want the tube amp to make the
soundtrack
sound better to your ears?

Deliberately introducing distortion is a perfectly valid artistic tool
that I certainly
have no problem with, modern music would not exist without it.

However if you are attempting to achieve a rendition that modifies the
artists', then
you are not truly seeking "HI-FI", but rather creating something new
and, hopefully, pleasing
to your ears. I guess it depends on your objectives.

Thinking further, if you wanted to duplicate the sound in the old movie
theatres, then tube would
be the way to go indeed, but this hardly applies to "Chicago" (the film,
sorry for the missunderstanding
but when I think of Chicago, movies do not come to mind, guess I'm
dating myself)

Cheers
Marty (a purist)

Ahhh. I see. Sorry, but we also indulge in more refined cinema. There are
no explosions in All That Jazz, but lots of music.

We all figured that. Gay boys are known for their love of show tunes.
Real men watch action movies.





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