Any similarity between the IMO's interpretation of the "Rules" and those of the
Simpleton Neal, are purely luck or imaginary, on Neal's part.
The only reason to read Neal's interpretations, is to learn how NOT to
interpret the rules.

Shen

I gotta give you credit, Capt. Shen, at least you
understand the meaning of keeping a proper
lookout. It appears your compatriot otnmbrd
hasn't a clue.

Is is any wonder with the likes of otn operating
ships that there will always be plenty of collisions
that could have and should have been avoided.

S.Simon


"Shen44" wrote in message ...
Any similarity between the IMO's interpretation of the "Rules" and those of the
Simpleton Neal, are purely luck or imaginary, on Neal's part.
The only reason to read Neal's interpretations, is to learn how NOT to
interpret the rules.

Shen

Subject: COLREGS - The final word on pecking order in restricted
visibility.
From: "Simple Simon"

ROFL, Trust me Neal, Gawd Help the SOB Mate who didn't post lookouts, or
additional lookouts, in a timely manner in times of restricted visibility, or
the lookout who didn't pay attention, when "otn" was Master..... speaking from
experience.......

Shen

ps When you learn how ships and big boats operate, we can discuss those
operations.....until then you'll always be a "rank amateur" with a highly
developed "wannabe" attitude and knowledge base.

I gotta give you credit, Capt. Shen, at least you
understand the meaning of keeping a proper
lookout. It appears your compatriot otnmbrd
hasn't a clue.

Is is any wonder with the likes of otn operating
ships that there will always be plenty of collisions
that could have and should have been avoided.

S.Simon

Shen44 wrote:


ps When you learn how ships and big boats operate, we can discuss those
operations.....until then you'll always be a "rank amateur" with a highly
developed "wannabe" attitude and knowledge base.

You got it correct except for the bit about the knowledge base ... Nil
has only a shaky and homemade knowledge base. He has no formal training
and absolutely no professional experience to expose him to any
operational technique. All he has is a toy MOTOR license yet he claims
to hate all motorboat operators ... he claims to be the master of sail
yet has NO sail endorsement ... couldn't pass the test? Doesn't have the
sailing time?

All he has are the bad habits he developed while pretending to be
"master" of his trailerboat and a peculiar view of vessel operations
based on watching other yachties. He has absolutely no idea of how any
vessel other than his and the trailerboats that pass his moorage operate.

Nil is a textbook example of why maritime academies exist and are more
and more critical to training in the maritime industry.

He is the poster child of the wannabe mariner.

Rick

I hope you all notice how Rick can only resort to ad hominem attacks.

I suppose name-calling is, indeed, the last bastion of those too ignorant
to discuss the issues, in this case - the Rules, on their own merits.

S.Simon


"Rick" wrote in message ink.net...

You got it correct except for the bit about the knowledge base ... Nil
has only a shaky and homemade knowledge base. He has no formal training
and absolutely no professional experience to expose him to any
operational technique. All he has is a toy MOTOR license yet he claims
to hate all motorboat operators ... he claims to be the master of sail
yet has NO sail endorsement ... couldn't pass the test? Doesn't have the
sailing time?

All he has are the bad habits he developed while pretending to be
"master" of his trailerboat and a peculiar view of vessel operations
based on watching other yachties. He has absolutely no idea of how any
vessel other than his and the trailerboats that pass his moorage operate.

Nil is a textbook example of why maritime academies exist and are more
and more critical to training in the maritime industry.

He is the poster child of the wannabe mariner.

Rick

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:03:56 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

I hope you all notice how Rick can only resort to ad hominem attacks.

I have a set of rules I call the SteveRegs.

1. If you are a sailboarder with more balls than brains, I'm not
moving for you because the lead in my keel weighs more than your car.

2. If you are a tug pushing four barges up or down the river, I'm
going to get out of your way because . . . well because you'd be a
moron not to.

3. If you are a powerboat, sod off.

4. If you are another sailboat, we'll look at each other for awhile,
try to figure out is we're going to hit each other or not (CBDR is
your friend), and make the appropriate adjustments. Then (or perhaps
during) we will check out any babealishous babes on the foredeck.

I'd say that about covers it.

I agree with the power boats sodding off part.

Unfortunately, as demonstrated by the power boat
operators who have invaded this sailing newsgroup,
they hold sailboats in contempt and loathe the fact
that sailboats have stand-on status in most situations
and they have to give-way. They can't abide being
shown their inferior status. Their big fat egos just
can't take the beating.

S.Simon


"Pockets of Resistance" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:03:56 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

I hope you all notice how Rick can only resort to ad hominem attacks.

I have a set of rules I call the SteveRegs.

1. If you are a sailboarder with more balls than brains, I'm not
moving for you because the lead in my keel weighs more than your car.

2. If you are a tug pushing four barges up or down the river, I'm
going to get out of your way because . . . well because you'd be a
moron not to.

3. If you are a powerboat, sod off.

4. If you are another sailboat, we'll look at each other for awhile,
try to figure out is we're going to hit each other or not (CBDR is
your friend), and make the appropriate adjustments. Then (or perhaps
during) we will check out any babealishous babes on the foredeck.

I'd say that about covers it.

Pockets of Resistance wrote:

3. If you are a powerboat, sod off.

Not if the geezer at the helm, with the bimbo in matching mettalic jacket,
has a heart attack!

Seahag

Simple Simon wrote:

I hope you all notice how Rick can only resort to ad hominem attacks.

I suppose name-calling is, indeed, the last bastion of those too ignorant
to discuss the issues, in this case - the Rules, on their own merits.

I only consider the source of the troll.

Arguing COLREGS with Nil is pointless. Pointing out the reasons why Nil
is unsuited to make any reasonable argument or to intelligently discuss
vessel operations is not an ad hominem attack. It is an observation of
the futility of discussing such issues with the ignorant and uninformed
wannabe class of trailerboater that he represents.

The merits are beyond your understanding.

In case what I wrote was as difficult for you as the COLREGS, read it again:

You got it correct except for the bit about the knowledge base ... Nil
has only a shaky and homemade knowledge base. He has no formal training
and absolutely no professional experience to expose him to any
operational technique. All he has is a toy MOTOR license yet he claims
to hate all motorboat operators ... he claims to be the master of sail
yet has NO sail endorsement ... couldn't pass the test? Doesn't have the
sailing time?

All he has are the bad habits he developed while pretending to be
"master" of his trailerboat and a peculiar view of vessel operations
based on watching other yachties. He has absolutely no idea of how any
vessel other than his and the trailerboats that pass his moorage operate.

Nil is a textbook example of why maritime academies exist and are more
and more critical to training in the maritime industry.

He is the poster child of the wannabe mariner.

That is not an ad hominem attack, it is a professional observation of
the attitude and management skills of an amateur recreational sailor
pretending to understand the nuances of safe vessel operation.


Rick

Nothing but an expanded name-calling session.

Bwaaahahhahhhahhahahahahhahahahhahah!

S.Simon


"Rick" wrote in message ink.net...

Arguing COLREGS with Nil is pointless. Pointing out the reasons why Nil
is unsuited to make any reasonable argument or to intelligently discuss
vessel operations is not an ad hominem attack. It is an observation of
the futility of discussing such issues with the ignorant and uninformed
wannabe class of trailerboater that he represents.

The merits are beyond your understanding.

In case what I wrote was as difficult for you as the COLREGS, read it again:

You got it correct except for the bit about the knowledge base ... Nil
has only a shaky and homemade knowledge base. He has no formal training
and absolutely no professional experience to expose him to any
operational technique. All he has is a toy MOTOR license yet he claims
to hate all motorboat operators ... he claims to be the master of sail
yet has NO sail endorsement ... couldn't pass the test? Doesn't have the
sailing time?

All he has are the bad habits he developed while pretending to be
"master" of his trailerboat and a peculiar view of vessel operations
based on watching other yachties. He has absolutely no idea of how any
vessel other than his and the trailerboats that pass his moorage operate.

Nil is a textbook example of why maritime academies exist and are more
and more critical to training in the maritime industry.

He is the poster child of the wannabe mariner.

That is not an ad hominem attack, it is a professional observation of
the attitude and management skills of an amateur recreational sailor
pretending to understand the nuances of safe vessel operation.


Rick