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That'll be a side effect of your oogle neuron engaging and sucking the
blood from your other one.

Cheers MC

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Do you have those X-ray specs, too? I've got some, and I've tried
wearing them at Hooters, but everything is just blurry, and I get a
headache. I don't think they really work.



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Sorry, the Brits didn't invent the cavity magnetron, there were patents on it years before. They
did build one 100 times more powerful than others, which made them usable in a lot of applications.

BTW, what kind of x-ray optics do you work on?

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How about this;

Boston 1873:

A man about forty-six years of age, giving the name of Joshua
Coppersmith, has been arrested in New York for attempting to extort
funds from ignorant and superstitious people by exhibiting a device
which he says will convey the human voice over metallic wires, so that
it will be heard by the listener at the other end. He calls the
instrument a "telephone", which is obviously intended to imitate the
word "telegraph", and win the confidence of those who know of the
success of the latter instrument without understanding the principles on
which it is based. Well-informed people know that it is impossible to
transmit the human voice over wires as may be done with dots and dashes
and signals of the Morse Code, and that were it possible to do so, the
thing would be of no practical value. The authorities who apprehended
this criminal are to be congratulated, and it is to be hoped that it may
serve as an example to other conscienceless schemers who enrich
themselves at the expense of their fellow creatures.

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As far as I know, the brits did invent the cavity magnetron. Many ppl
think that the atom bomb was the most significant hi-tech invention
during ww2 but it was really the cavity magnetron which really made
radar (and micro-wave ovens) practical.

HOWEVER, I will sorta put up two quotes from the eminent brit
physicist Lord Kelvin of the 1890's.

"These so-called X-rays will be shown to be a fraud"
this is my fav since I make x-ray optics.

Kelvin also reccomended that young men not enter physics as "all
important physics has been done except for a few minor problems in
electromagnetic theory" (or something like that). It was those few
problems in E&M theory that led to relativity theory (Equations for
E&M waves were not invariant under Galilean transformation. Einstein
used the Lorentz transform that had been suggested to explain the
Michelson Morley experiment to make them invariant).

In both cases, the Brit (Kelvin) was trumped by Germans. Kelvin was
still one of the greats, in spite of being wrong.

Now, how does this apply to sailing?



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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message news:LG6dnaYU-5nxTBaiU-
BTW, what kind of x-ray optics do you work on?



I found your web site - neat stuff! I used to work on the Einstein Observatory. Did you
ever get involved in that end of things?

-jeff


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I'd say that supports exactly what I've been saying. Given the timing, it was certainly a
huge improvement, but it was one of many necessary to create a workable system. Your link
makes it sound like they invented the cavity magnetron, which is certainly not true. And
don't forget, at this point in time, the US wasn't even in the war. We were spending
billions of dollars developing Radar to save Britain.




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http://www.marconicalling.com/museum...-i=64-s=6.html

"In Britain the Royal Navy had for some time been aware of the
importance of ultra-short wave radio for inter-ship communication and
early in the Second World War had contracted with Birmingham University
to conduct research into transmitting and receiving valves functioning
at 10 centimetres. Research conducted by two young scientists assigned
to the project, John Randall and Harry Boot, resulted in the creation of
the cavity magnetron, which was small enough to be held in one hand, yet
could produce 400 watts of power at the required 10 centimetre
wavelength, over 100 times more than the most powerful valve then in
existence, the klystron.

In August 1940, at the height of the Battle of Britain, the cavity
magnetron was taken to the USA by a small party of scientists and
service officers, led by Tizard. The Americans were so impressed that
production of the British cavity magnetron began within weeks."

I'd say the US knows a gift when they see it?

Cheers MC



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Bwhahahahha. Who built the first radar array? Did the US even have an
array?


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We were spending
billions of dollars developing Radar to save Britain.




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In 1940 the American technology was the equal of the British for the longer 1 meter
wavelength. But they were not deployed in the same numbers as the British.

I'm not saying the British were not major players in this field. But you implied that
Radar would not have existed without the British - this is clearly a myth!


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Bwhahahahha. Who built the first radar array? Did the US even have an
array?


Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:
We were spending
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1940? I don't think so, the US didn't have a working cavity magnetron
until it was taken there!

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

In 1940 the American technology was the equal of the British for the longer 1 meter
wavelength. But they were not deployed in the same numbers as the British.

I'm not saying the British were not major players in this field. But you implied that
Radar would not have existed without the British - this is clearly a myth!


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bwhahahahha. Who built the first radar array? Did the US even have an
array?


Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

We were spending
billions of dollars developing Radar to save Britain.





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Sorry to disillusion you ..

http://www.radarworld.org/america.html

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1940? I don't think so, the US didn't have a working cavity magnetron
until it was taken there!

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

In 1940 the American technology was the equal of the British for the longer 1 meter
wavelength. But they were not deployed in the same numbers as the British.

I'm not saying the British were not major players in this field. But you implied that
Radar would not have existed without the British - this is clearly a myth!


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bwhahahahha. Who built the first radar array? Did the US even have an
array?


Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

We were spending
billions of dollars developing Radar to save Britain.







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They did have the Ubitron.

A far superior device!

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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1940? I don't think so, the US didn't have a working cavity magnetron
until it was taken there!

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

In 1940 the American technology was the equal of the British for the

longer 1 meter
wavelength. But they were not deployed in the same numbers as the

British.

I'm not saying the British were not major players in this field. But

you implied that
Radar would not have existed without the British - this is clearly a

myth!


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bwhahahahha. Who built the first radar array? Did the US even have an
array?


Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:

We were spending
billions of dollars developing Radar to save Britain.







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The first reporter observation of radar effects (radio ranging) occured in
the 1890's in Colorado Springs, Colorado. With the same principles, the
Schumann resonances of the earth were first discovered and measured.


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bwhahahahha. Who built the first radar array? Did the US even have an
array?


Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:
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