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Steve Thomas October 12th 03 01:29 AM

Continuous line replacement
 
I have a line-drive furler and the manual that came with it. If splicing the
line is the main problem, the manual won't help. It doesn't describe how to
do a splice.

Steve Thomas

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
I would contact Hood. I have a Hood furler on my Catalina, they sent me a
manual free of charge.
http://www.pompanette.com/pompweb.nsf/pages/hoodmain
John Cairns
"JR" wrote in message
. com...
I have to change the continuous line on my Hood roller furler. Is there
instruction anywhere on splicing the line? Is that what I need to do? I

got
the boat in July after Gatti Marine and Racine Riverside in Wisconsin

messed
up the set-up (line installed backward/upside down). We struggled with

it
waiting for the repair but Racine Riverside blew me off. Now in

dry-dock,
the line could use a change, showing its wear. Any direction is much
appreciated. I'll no doubt have other questions as I seek to set her up
properly. Thanks.

Ryan







katysails October 12th 03 01:42 AM

Continuous line replacement
 
Thanks all. You guys and gals crack me up.

Ryan

Gee, now I'm sad I gave you a straight answer....you were probably =
hoping we'd "putz" you or something for having the audacity to ask a =
real sailing question.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


The_navigator© October 12th 03 09:43 PM

Continuous line replacement
 
Well You could of course...

Cheers MC

Jeff Morris wrote:
Thanks - I was about to claim you could pass it under the keel!


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

Cappy thinks the furling line goes 'around' the boat... he is totally
unaware it can be run on either side.... thus his belief it must negotiate
the mast and shrouds.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
. ..
| Read for content , Simpleton. Temp rig the jib halyard as a forestay,
| remove the forstay (furler) from the bow plate, place bight of endless
| line around bow plate and reattach forestay (furler). The Hood LD was
| a good simple furler that worked without fail on my 31 footer. Take
| your hank ons and blow them out your ass with the rest of your advice.
| As usual, your question shows your failure to understand how a boat is
| rigged and your eagerness to demonstrate that failure regardless..
|
|
|
| On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:15:30 -0400, "Simple Simon"
| wrote:
|
|
|
| How's he gonna get the spliced bight of line around the mast,
| shrouds, etc?
|
| Throw away that wind-up crap and get safe, simple and reliable
| hank-on sails instead.
|
| S.Simon
|
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
. ..
| Instructions for end splicing of braided line are available on line ,
| just google. If you can't splice, here's a trick. Get your line
| spliced at a rigging shop. Attach your jib halyard to the chain plate
| and detach the roller furling. Put the line around the chain plate and
| reattach the roller furling. Now, release the socket head screws that
| hold the the lower shroud covering the sheave and place the line on
| the sheave. replace the shroud and you're in business.
|
|
| On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:44:18 GMT, "JR" wrote:
|
| I have to change the continuous line on my Hood roller furler. Is
there
| instruction anywhere on splicing the line? Is that what I need to do?
I got
| the boat in July after Gatti Marine and Racine Riverside in Wisconsin
messed
| up the set-up (line installed backward/upside down). We struggled with
it
| waiting for the repair but Racine Riverside blew me off. Now in
dry-dock,
| the line could use a change, showing its wear. Any direction is much
| appreciated. I'll no doubt have other questions as I seek to set her
up
| properly. Thanks.
|
| Ryan
|
|
|
|







John Cairns October 13th 03 04:33 AM

Continuous line replacement
 
The original post started with changing the line, only mentioned splicing
once, and ended with the thought of changing the line.. You could splice the
line without changing it, but if the line is worn to the point that it would
need to be spliced, why bother? You might be able to disassemble the unit
without any visual aids, but it would probably be a good idea to call Hood
and have them send a free manual, if you don't want to pay for a replacement
line(continuous) then there are quite a few knot books on the market that
will show you how to do this. Better yet, call Hood and ask for the manual,
then ask the cost of the replacement line. You could then easily determine
if you wanted to use their replacement part or attempt to make your own.
John Cairns

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
...
I have a line-drive furler and the manual that came with it. If splicing

the
line is the main problem, the manual won't help. It doesn't describe how

to
do a splice.

Steve Thomas

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
I would contact Hood. I have a Hood furler on my Catalina, they sent me

a
manual free of charge.
http://www.pompanette.com/pompweb.nsf/pages/hoodmain
John Cairns
"JR" wrote in message
. com...
I have to change the continuous line on my Hood roller furler. Is

there
instruction anywhere on splicing the line? Is that what I need to do?

Now in
dry-dock,
the line could use a change, showing its wear. Any direction is much
appreciated. I'll no doubt have other questions as I seek to set her

up
properly. Thanks.

Ryan









Simple Simon October 13th 03 06:08 PM

Continuous line replacement
 
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...
The original post started with changing the line, only mentioned splicing
once, and ended with the thought of changing the line.. You could splice the
line without changing it, but if the line is worn to the point that it would
need to be spliced, why bother? You might be able to disassemble the unit
without any visual aids, but it would probably be a good idea to call Hood
and have them send a free manual, if you don't want to pay for a replacement
line(continuous) then there are quite a few knot books on the market that
will show you how to do this. Better yet, call Hood and ask for the manual,
then ask the cost of the replacement line. You could then easily determine
if you wanted to use their replacement part or attempt to make your own.
John Cairns

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
...
I have a line-drive furler and the manual that came with it. If splicing

the
line is the main problem, the manual won't help. It doesn't describe how

to
do a splice.

Steve Thomas

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
I would contact Hood. I have a Hood furler on my Catalina, they sent me

a
manual free of charge.
http://www.pompanette.com/pompweb.nsf/pages/hoodmain
John Cairns
"JR" wrote in message
. com...
I have to change the continuous line on my Hood roller furler. Is

there
instruction anywhere on splicing the line? Is that what I need to do?

Now in
dry-dock,
the line could use a change, showing its wear. Any direction is much
appreciated. I'll no doubt have other questions as I seek to set her

up
properly. Thanks.

Ryan











John Cairns October 13th 03 09:11 PM

Continuous line replacement
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns



Simple Simon October 13th 03 09:37 PM

Continuous line replacement
 
You just proved my point for there are no bigger, spoiled brat,
sailing-(and capsizing)-boats-way-too-big-for-one-person-to-handle
sissies than racers - especially French racers. Anytime any piece
of equipment allows unseamanlike practices to proliferate it tells
me and any other sane individual that it's certainly not a good thing.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.

Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns





The_navigator© October 13th 03 10:09 PM

Continuous line replacement
 
Are you saying a luff foil does not improve sail performance?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
You just proved my point for there are no bigger, spoiled brat,
sailing-(and capsizing)-boats-way-too-big-for-one-person-to-handle
sissies than racers - especially French racers. Anytime any piece
of equipment allows unseamanlike practices to proliferate it tells
me and any other sane individual that it's certainly not a good thing.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns







Simple Simon October 13th 03 10:51 PM

Continuous line replacement
 
I said no such thing. I only said that roll-ups are for
sissies and wannabe racers. They make no sense at
all for cruising sailors because they represent extra
expense, extra risk of failure, extra complication
and worst of all they are just plain ugly. Most are
very inefficient unless unrolled all the way and since
they are generally made way large they need to be
partially rolled a good deal of the time. They are
crap and there's no arguing the fact.

S.Simon - nothing but real sails aboard my yacht.


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
Are you saying a luff foil does not improve sail performance?

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
You just proved my point for there are no bigger, spoiled brat,
sailing-(and capsizing)-boats-way-too-big-for-one-person-to-handle
sissies than racers - especially French racers. Anytime any piece
of equipment allows unseamanlike practices to proliferate it tells
me and any other sane individual that it's certainly not a good thing.

The ONLY reason racers use roll-ups is they cannot possibly
hand real sails. That does not mean roll-ups are superior in any
way, shape or form to safe, reliable, tried and true hank-on sails
that all sensible cruisers should be using.

All NASCAR racers use roll cages and four point seat belts
and welded shut doors and fuel cells. They wear Nomex
suits.

Does that mean all automobile owners should install that crap
in their cars and invest in Nomex suits? No it doesn't. In the
same way sensible cruisers will sail a boat within their abilities
to single-handedly sail safely and this means hank-on sails are
the best choice.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

Better yet, get rid of all that sissy, high maintenance, prone to failure,
unsightly, roll-up crap. Hank-on sails are markedly superior and totally
trouble-free.

S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


Sissy like this guy, maybe?
http://www.aroundalone2002.com/

Or maybe these folks.
http://www.transat650.org/

I know you're a HUGE fan of the French.
http://www.vendeeglobe.com/

Next time you sail around the Horn with your hank-on sails, let us know.
John Cairns









Lady Pilot October 14th 03 04:16 AM

Continuous line replacement
 

"Simple Simon" wrote:
S.Simon - uses real sails not some woman's version patterned
after a window shade.


Like you would know how a woman decorates in this century...

Let me give you a hint, sweetheart... I sold my mauve leather sofa
and loveseat. Now I have a alabaster leather sofa/loveseat with four
recliners.

You need to get a new decorator, Neil...a yellow boat with mauve
cushions don't match...

LP




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