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I though you had broad band? At least now you are using correct
terminology! But it does not have too much draft, the foreshortening of the picture gives that impression. look further up. But even more important look at the position of maximaum draft! Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Didn't look at the forward pic as the one I looked at too way too long to load. But, I can tell by the draft stripe that the sail has too much draft. S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Do you mean draft? Did you look at the other pictures -if you look at the one from forward you are still saying there is too much draft? Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: My mistake. I used chord incorrectly. I meant to say the depth is too great meaning the sail needs to be outhauled more so it's flatter like your wife's chest, you know. S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... There's nothing wrong with the chord -that's determined by the boom and roach silly! Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Wrong! the chord is too great. You're gonna stall the air over the leeward side of the sail. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Belly? That's draft silly and what's more it's in the right place! Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Way too much belly! It's better to flatten it more for light air. The better racers know this. How come you don't? S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Yes, a kink indicates too much tension. but what are you going to do about the draft? http://community.webshots.com/album/56512277PHOvoD Shows what a new main should look like in light airs. Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: Forestay is very tight. I did not uphaul the sail very much because the wind was so light that a slack luff was necessary. I tried uphauling it more on a reach but the luff got sort of a kink in it instead of a nice smooth curve. When I slacked off on the halyard tension the sail shape smoothed out. S.Simon - knows how to shape the sails on his own boat better than some wannabe looking at pictures. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... You may need to pay attention to forestay tension because the draft is way back for an unstretched new sail. Either that or it's cut badly.. Cheers MC Simple Simon wrote: What's the reason for the black line on the jib? http://captneal.homestead.com/files/jib.jpg |
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Try this!
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/vo...ing/index.html Bwhahhahahahahahhahahaha Even booby will love it. Cheers MC The Captains Nemesis wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:07:56 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote: Didn't look at the forward pic as the one I looked at too way too long to load. But, I can tell by the draft stripe that the sail has too much draft. S.Simon Jesus Cappy, a few hours ago you didn't know what the stripe was for, now you're an expert on reading them. For out information just how deep should the sail be in light air with an easily driven boat like Ella on flatter water, and just where should that max draft be. Theoretically of course. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Neal,
Listen to what the Nav is saying. He is telling it true. The greatest depth of the Chord should be in the forward 1/3 of the sail. This shouldn't be a problem with a new sail. As the sail ages it falls further back.That is when you you start looking for new sails. Looking at your pictures I would say you have those sails set TO TIGHT. Ease up! let the new sails that their own shape. On the main sail, for the size sail you have and being new, your halyard tension shouldn't be any tighter than you can get without the wench and sheet tension should be just enough to pull the top batten parallel to the boom. Get that draft forward without over adjusting. That, I hope is my final comment. If I can help you in anyway, e-mail me. Don't stretch those new sails out of shape "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!" Ole Thom |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ... S.Simon - Yet again showing how little he realy knows and talking bul**** |
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Cute, but that little applet only uses angle of attack and there are no sail adjustments other than that. I would think even Booby would know the correct angle of attack by using tell tales. S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Try this! http://www.nationalgeographic.com/vo...ing/index.html Bwhahhahahahahahhahahaha Even booby will love it. Cheers MC The Captains Nemesis wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:07:56 -0400, "Simple Simon" wrote: Didn't look at the forward pic as the one I looked at too way too long to load. But, I can tell by the draft stripe that the sail has too much draft. S.Simon Jesus Cappy, a few hours ago you didn't know what the stripe was for, now you're an expert on reading them. For out information just how deep should the sail be in light air with an easily driven boat like Ella on flatter water, and just where should that max draft be. Theoretically of course. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Thanks for the tips. I'm sure in winds that are a little heavier than 5 or six
knots the sails will assume a better shape. I was more concerned with trying to get the folds out from the shipping process than getting the draft, etc. exactly right anyhow. Also, the wind was shift so half the time when I put it on autopilot and went forward and layed down to snap a pic the wind angle wasn't even correct. Rest assured that I can easily trim my sails for maximum efficiency. I could probably even beat Ella Vuella in light air. He claims his ship is easily driven but mine is more easily driven than even his. S.Simon "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Neal, Listen to what the Nav is saying. He is telling it true. The greatest depth of the Chord should be in the forward 1/3 of the sail. This shouldn't be a problem with a new sail. As the sail ages it falls further back.That is when you you start looking for new sails. Looking at your pictures I would say you have those sails set TO TIGHT. Ease up! let the new sails that their own shape. On the main sail, for the size sail you have and being new, your halyard tension shouldn't be any tighter than you can get without the wench and sheet tension should be just enough to pull the top batten parallel to the boom. Get that draft forward without over adjusting. That, I hope is my final comment. If I can help you in anyway, e-mail me. Don't stretch those new sails out of shape "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!" Ole Thom |
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He claims his ship
is easily driven but mine is more easily driven than even his. By truck? RB |
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
What's the reason for the black line on the jib? http://captneal.homestead.com/files/jib.jpg Yeah. Same reason I have the red ones. I think Ol Thom can answer this question better than anyone. You should of requested Yellow lines t match your hull btw. http://community.webshots.com/album/93138533kAuFwc Notice the perfect shape? not all wrinkley like the navigators. Notice that I have 3 red line on my sails,all of them. your sail looksgood except for the shelf. Looks like wasted cloth, more wear and chaffing, a great place to collect water and usless unless you have a bunch of nic knacks to display. Should of gone with a superior footless sail. joe |
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Very nice and superior to Navigator's lame picture of a sail way
too full for the conditions. The lines on the mainsail I can understand. It's the line(s) on the jib that have me puzzled because there is not really any adjustment to speak of available on the jib like there is on the mainsail. What's the use of a line that facilitates adjustment when adjustment is limited or lacking altogether? S.Simon "Joe" wrote in message m... "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... What's the reason for the black line on the jib? http://captneal.homestead.com/files/jib.jpg Yeah. Same reason I have the red ones. I think Ol Thom can answer this question better than anyone. You should of requested Yellow lines t match your hull btw. http://community.webshots.com/album/93138533kAuFwc Notice the perfect shape? not all wrinkley like the navigators. Notice that I have 3 red line on my sails,all of them. your sail looksgood except for the shelf. Looks like wasted cloth, more wear and chaffing, a great place to collect water and usless unless you have a bunch of nic knacks to display. Should of gone with a superior footless sail. joe |
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