Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Trying to forget about Isabel for a while.
Started out last Sat. with very light wind 3kts, sailed (drifted) for an
hour, gave up, motored to a cove and anchored. At least it's getting cool at
night to sleep even without a breeze.
Sunday, still light, 5-8kts, took all day to sail to next anchorage.
Monday, beautiful, gorgeous sunshiney day, steady 10 kts, put 35 Nm on the
knotlog but moored only 5 miles from previous night. Tied to a vacant
mooring ball. First time using a mooring. Kinda nice not having to weigh
anchor in the morn.
Tuesday, unclipped mooring, sailing through the cove I could see the bay up
ahead was darker, windier, and lots of white capped waves. Put reef in main
and rolled the genny in to about 90% and went close hauled smashing through
the waves. Looked at the knot log and saw 7.1 kts. (previous best was 7 )
Pulled the main in some, headed down a bit , 7.2 then jumped to 7.4 and
finaly 7.5. A new record!

Later in the week sailed through some horrific T-storms and some nice days
too.

Boat performed flawlessly. Hit no rocks.
Can't wait to get back on the water.

Scotty

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Scott Vernon wrote...

Started out last Sat. with wind 13kts, sailed for an hour, gave up, motored
to a cove and anchored. At least it's getting cool at night to sleep even
without a breeze.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Pulled the main in some, headed down a bit , 7.2 then jumped to 7.4 and
finaly 7.5. A new record!

Wow. That's our average this week!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Unless there are witnesses on board - then your boat seems a lot slower.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Pulled the main in some, headed down a bit , 7.2 then jumped to 7.4 and
finaly 7.5. A new record!

Wow. That's our average this week!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Nutsy,

That average speed you're talking about, is that with a reefed main and
1/4 rolled Jib?

Tuesday was easily the best day of the week...sailed out to Port Washington and
back making 7.5 knots the whole way. Probaby the best sailing day I saw all
year.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Tuesday was easily the best day of the week...sailed out to Port Washington
and
back making 7.5 knots the whole way.

WIth your theoretical hull speed of 6.7 kn, you must have been surfing those
big LIS rollers.

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Tuesday was easily the best day of the week...sailed out to Port Washington
and
back making 7.5 knots the whole way.

WIth your theoretical hull speed of 6.7 kn, you must have been surfing those
big LIS rollers.

So if you think THS is a rule, then Scotty, Donal, Neal, Mooron and everyone
else here is a liar.
The C&C 32 easily breaks 7 knots and so did Ghost.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Did you see the exchange between Steve Dashew and the Wanderer in Lat 38?
Dashew tried to maintain that he averaged 10 kn in a boat twice the size of
yours, and he got slammed. So would you.

right...so you just called just about everyone here a liar.
I know a C&C 32, Pearson 30 or even a Siedleman can easilt top 7 knots. You
don't. Which shows how much you know about boats.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Wow. That's our average this week!

RB

At what RPM?

More boat ignorance from Billy Jane. A C&C 32 can't make 7 knots plus under
power. Impossible.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

On 19 Sep 2003 20:15:30 GMT, (SkitchNYC) wrote:

Tuesday was easily the best day of the week...sailed out to Port Washington
and
back making 7.5 knots the whole way.

WIth your theoretical hull speed of 6.7 kn, you must have been surfing those
big LIS rollers.

So if you think THS is a rule, then Scotty, Donal, Neal, Mooron and everyone
else here is a liar.
The C&C 32 easily breaks 7 knots and so did Ghost.

Did you see the exchange between Steve Dashew and the Wanderer in Lat 38?
Dashew tried to maintain that he averaged 10 kn in a boat twice the size of
yours, and he got slammed. So would you.

You are forgetting to adjust the numbers for the Bobsprit conversion
factor, sometimes abbreviated as the "BS factor". Seems to be about
50%. "Boat is worth twice what I paid for it" x 50%. "Boat cruises
above 7kn, tops 11 on occasion"...you get the picture. You are just
working with the raw, unadjusted data. Don't forget to apply the "BS"
adjustment and all will be fine:)

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Tuesday was easily the best day of the week...sailed out to Port
Washington
and
back making 7.5 knots the whole way.

WIth your theoretical hull speed of 6.7 kn, you must have been surfing
those
big LIS rollers.

So if you think THS is a rule, then Scotty, Donal, Neal, Mooron and
everyone
else here is a liar.
The C&C 32 easily breaks 7 knots and so did Ghost.

Setanta easily breaks 7 kts. She breaks 8 kts on a most outings when we are
not beating. She even goes through 10 kts on a regular basis. 12 kts easy
when there is more than 23 kts on a broad reach .... Why, two years ago we
touched 15.2 kts.

However, there is an enormous difference between "peak" and "average"
speeds. In 5 years, and 9000 miles, I have had two hours where we averaged
more than 8 kts, .... and I suspect that we have only had about 10 hours
where we averaged more than 7.5 kts.

You didn't "make 7.5 knots" the whole way - even if you were measuring SOG
instead of speed through the water.

I won't call you a liar, because I am far too polite to suggest such a
thing. However, I would suggest that you review your ridiculous claim.



Regards


Donal
--

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

You didn't "make 7.5 knots" the whole way - even if you were measuring SOG
instead of speed through the water.

Winds were 15-18 knots and we were on a reach. We fell below 7 knots a few
times, but rarely.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

She even goes through 10 kts on a regular basis. 12 kts easy
when there is more than 23 kts on a broad reach .... Why, two years ago we
touched 15.2 kts.

10 knots on a regular basis? Not according to skitch!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

"Donal" wrote in message

| I won't call you a liar, because I am far too polite to suggest such a
| thing. However, I would suggest that you review your ridiculous claim.


I got no problem calling him a LIAR! ... because that's what he is! a LIAR!

CM

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

I know you are repying to ****head, but, when I say I saw 7.5 kts, it was
for a few short seconds only. Normal cruising is between 5.5 and 6.5.
However I did hit 7kts for more than a few minutes that particular day. Not
bad for a fat 'ol cruising tub, eh?

Scotty



"Donut" wrote

Setanta easily breaks 7 kts. She breaks 8 kts on a most outings when we
are
not beating. She even goes through 10 kts on a regular basis. 12 kts
easy
when there is more than 23 kts on a broad reach .... Why, two years ago
we
touched 15.2 kts.

However, there is an enormous difference between "peak" and "average"
speeds. In 5 years, and 9000 miles, I have had two hours where we
averaged
more than 8 kts, .... and I suspect that we have only had about 10 hours
where we averaged more than 7.5 kts.

You didn't "make 7.5 knots" the whole way - even if you were measuring SOG
instead of speed through the water.

I won't call you a liar, because I am far too polite to suggest such a
thing. However, I would suggest that you review your ridiculous claim.



Regards


Donal
--

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

The hull speed of a C&C 32 is 50 knots? Wow... I gotta
get one of those!

wrote in message
...
On 19 Sep 2003 23:47:29 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

More boat ignorance from Billy Jane. A C&C 32 can't make 7 knots plus
under
power. Impossible.


Oh, really? GUESS again.

You calling all those C&C 32 owners liars, Billy Jane?

BUSTED!

RB

A C&C with the right propulsion could do 50 knots under power, although
your
badly rotted boat would fly to pieces long before that..

BB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

A C&C with the right propulsion could do 50 knots under power, although your
badly rotted boat would fly to pieces long before that..

I see, so all C&C 32's making only hull speed now have the wrong engine? I see.

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

The hull speed of a C&C 32 is 50 knots? Wow... I gotta
get one of those!

Only with Billy Jane's magic engine!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Not
bad for a fat 'ol cruising tub, eh?

Sure, good for your wife, but what about your boat?

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:38:39 GMT, wrote
this crap:

On 19 Sep 2003 21:32:44 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Wow. That's our average this week!

RB

At what RPM?

More boat ignorance from Billy Jane. A C&C 32 can't make 7 knots plus under
power. Impossible.


Oh, really? GUESS again.

He's right. What do you do different? Go downhill?





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:07:01 GMT, wrote
this crap:


A C&C with the right propulsion could do 50 knots under power, although your
badly rotted boat would fly to pieces long before that..

You'd need a C-5 Galaxy to get a C&C to do 50 knots.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

A boat can EXCEED hull speed if given enough power to do so. Bob says it's
IMPOSSIBLE because he knows nothing about boats.

Billy, I think you're confused. Skitch said the claim of a C&C 32 besting hull
speed as an average was impossible. Do you agree with him?
The C&C 32 can't make 7.5 knots with ANY of it's powerlants that came with the
boat.
So you're wrong on ALL counts...and a few new ones!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Did you see the exchange between Steve Dashew and the Wanderer in Lat 38?
Dashew tried to maintain that he averaged 10 kn in a boat twice the size of
yours, and he got slammed. So would you.

right...so you just called just about everyone here a liar.
I know a C&C 32, Pearson 30 or even a Siedleman can easilt top 7 knots. You
don't. Which shows how much you know about boats.

RB

No, I called you a liar. It is too easy to beat on you: Just point out your
blatant falsehoods and let everyone else here take their shots at you.

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

You said flat out that a C&C 32 could not exceed it's theoretical hull speed
under power.

Acccording to the C&C list, which "loves you" it doesn't.

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

No, I called you a liar. It is too easy to beat on you:

Holy backpedal, batman! So no it IS possible for a C&C 32 to average 7.5 knots
over a period of hours?

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Just point out your
blatant falsehoods and let everyone else here take their shots at you.

Bwahahaha! So far all you've done is call everyone here a liar. Trying to run
back is pretty sad!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

They said no such thing. Almost all of them are smarter than you, and know at
least "something" about boats.

Dummy (that's you), how much HP and which engines were installed in the C&C 32?
Now, having looked, what's top speed on a C&C 32 under power?

Hmmmmm??

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Well, with a rocket attached maybe, but it better
be a light one.

Nothing is impossible except the impossible.

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:14:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

The hull speed of a C&C 32 is 50 knots? Wow... I gotta
get one of those!


A boat can EXCEED hull speed if given enough power to do so. Bob says it's
IMPOSSIBLE because he knows nothing about boats.

BB



wrote in message
.. .
On 19 Sep 2003 23:47:29 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

More boat ignorance from Billy Jane. A C&C 32 can't make 7 knots plus
under
power. Impossible.


Oh, really? GUESS again.

You calling all those C&C 32 owners liars, Billy Jane?

BUSTED!

RB

A C&C with the right propulsion could do 50 knots under power, although
your
badly rotted boat would fly to pieces long before that..

BB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

I can do 50 knots on my Cal 20 in under 10 minutes, and I don't
need any airplane. Tell me how, dufus.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:07:01 GMT, wrote
this crap:


A C&C with the right propulsion could do 50 knots under power, although
your
badly rotted boat would fly to pieces long before that..

You'd need a C-5 Galaxy to get a C&C to do 50 knots.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Hypothetically speaking... for your particular boat.... about 80 MPH
being towed down the rode without a trailer by Scotty's Truck!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

Power requirement becomes exponential after theoretical hullspeed is
reached. After that speed you start to "push" a bow wave of water which you
must climb up over to achieve "Plane"....

You really don't know **** about boats do you Bob!!!


CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| They said no such thing. Almost all of them are smarter than you, and know
at
| least "something" about boats.
|
| Dummy (that's you), how much HP and which engines were installed in the
C&C 32?
| Now, having looked, what's top speed on a C&C 32 under power?
|
| Hmmmmm??
|
| RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:10:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I can do 50 knots on my Cal 20 in under 10 minutes, and I don't
need any airplane. Tell me how, dufus.

You put it in the back of your hillbilly pick-up, Jon-boy.

Do you put the broom where the mast goes?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

No, I called you a liar. It is too easy to beat on you:

Holy backpedal, batman! So no it IS possible for a C&C 32 to average 7.5
knots
over a period of hours?


Bob's reading comprehension hits an all time low.

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

"SkitchNYC" wrote in message

| Bob's reading comprehension hits an all time low.

It was never very good to begin with..... he confuses easily! The result
of living a lie and walking the razor's edge of the ridiculous while trying
to retain believability.

CM

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

No, you stupid barnacle. I know it's tough, but think about
it for a bit before you answer again. You might look like
less of an ignoramous.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:10:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I can do 50 knots on my Cal 20 in under 10 minutes, and I don't
need any airplane. Tell me how, dufus.

You put it in the back of your hillbilly pick-up, Jon-boy.

Do you put the broom where the mast goes?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

All you've done with your silly post, is prove that you really don't do any
proper navigation at all.

Poor Donal! After all this time he still doesn't get what I really get done
with my "silly" posts!

Bwahahahaha!

RB...Alt.sailing.asa captain!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

So I am not going to say "BUSTED, LOSER!".

Unless you have video showing my boat NOT doing 7 knots plus, I'm afraid you
haven't a leg to stand on.
You think a C&C 32 can't make 7 knots plus in 18 knots of wind?
Yup, you SURE know boats!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

SPEAKING OF VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!

No video of any type from you about sailing upwind with a free helm.......

What's Up with That???

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| So I am not going to say "BUSTED, LOSER!".
|
| Unless you have video showing my boat NOT doing 7 knots plus, I'm afraid
you
| haven't a leg to stand on.
| You think a C&C 32 can't make 7 knots plus in 18 knots of wind?
| Yup, you SURE know boats!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

SPEAKING OF VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!

No video of any type from you about sailing upwind with a free helm.......

What's Up with That???

CM

And I want donuts with that!

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Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:55:22 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

No, you stupid barnacle. I know it's tough, but think about
it for a bit before you answer again. You might look like
less of an ignoramous.

Well, you can't drive with the broom up your ass, Jon-boy, so I spose
you put it down your throat.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:10:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I can do 50 knots on my Cal 20 in under 10 minutes, and I don't
need any airplane. Tell me how, dufus.

You put it in the back of your hillbilly pick-up, Jon-boy.

Do you put the broom where the mast goes?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Trip report 9/6/03 - 9/17/03
 

Thanks but we really don't want to hear about your attempts
to drive with a broom up your ass. But, thanks for the advice
about not trying.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:55:22 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

No, you stupid barnacle. I know it's tough, but think about
it for a bit before you answer again. You might look like
less of an ignoramous.

Well, you can't drive with the broom up your ass, Jon-boy, so I spose
you put it down your throat.