Ian wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip must be edykated coz e writed:

Text Medium wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"steelfoot" wrote in
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Hail All!

This post is a public announcement of the outlawry of Eric James
Dokken.

Eric James Dokken is a child molester with multiple offences.

so, nazis AND child molestors.


This post is a public announcement from the Northlands Tribe. For
more information - including court documentation, please go to
either of the following:

http://runehof.org/nithing/dokken.html

http://www.wulfsgeist.com/njdokkenoutlawry.htm

Please note that many Heathen Kindreds have supported this action.
These kindreds and their chieftains are listed. The web-documents
supplied above provide links for any other folks who might wish to
join this declaration.

Hail Our Heathen Way!
Hail Vengeance!
Hail Justice!

steelfoot
Law Speaker, Runehof Asatru Kindred
Northlands Tribe


Waht do you call 1,000 law speakers at the bottom of the sea?

A good start?


That's good too! I was gonna say it was a typical neonazi sailing
expedition, though.

bertie
Can you people stop cross posting this drivel?


what's in it for me?


Bertei

Derrick Parfitt wrote in
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:08:14 +0100, "Dirk Bruere at Neopax"
wrote:


"Derrick Parfitt" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:39:47 +0100, "Dirk Bruere at Neopax"
wrote:


"Derrick Parfitt" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Sep 2003 07:19:45 -0700, (Doug
Freyburger) wrote:

Let me get this straight. You're supporting a repeat offender
child buggerer, right? Wow.

No, I do not support the "child buggerers" actions. He has been
dealt with by the authorities. It should be left at that.


And when he gets out you're happy that nobody in the Asatru
community
knows
what he did, and will almost inevitably do again?


You are right. I stand corrected. Everyone should be notified of
what the child molester has done.

My displeasure was with the fact that outlawery can be applied
haphazardly and for personal or political gain. This was not the
case in the present situation with the child molester.

Well, most of the cases of 'outlawry' that I've heard of in the past
have been a trivialisation of that ancient punishment.
In this case, however, I think it justified.
Although, if one were to take it literally it would mean that any
Asatruar who killed him would be subject to no opprobrium from those
Asatruar who agreed with such a penalty.

You are correct. Any reprisal against this child molester cannot be
done. Well, it can , but the potential rath of the authorities will
probably prevent anything happening to this person.


Aww, Djirkie could do a swastie painting!

Bertie

Nik wrote in
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:34:10 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:27:25 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:44 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:08 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:01:33 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

Oh, Fantastic!

The paddy

Are you talking about me? If so, tell me who it was that founded
Dublin, Cork and Limerick...Who was Sigtrig Silkbeard? Where was he
King of?

The link of modern-day Irish to the samll number of Germanic
forebearers is tenuous at best.

No its not. Do you know what Galway means? How about Baile naGall?

The Norse and Irish considered
themselves quite distinct, enough so that the Irish kicked the Norse
out at the Battle of Clontarf.

No they didn't. They were allowed to remain but in a much more
quiescent manner.

The description of the Irish by the Norse in the sagas are quite
unflattering, and to some modern readers, seem almost comical. That
is to be expected of rivals, so that isn't a big deal.

Which Saga, in particular, are you speaking of?

The modern Irish owe most of the Germanic contributions to their
culture to the English, not the Norse.

There are word in Gaelic that are undeniably of Norse origin.

/polack/hun "asatru" alliance has just declared someone an
outlaw.

If you were speaking of me, I have not explicitly done anything
either way on this matter.

I didn't say you did anything. I am somewhat dismayed at people
using archaic Norse terms and customs to modern day situations
without understanding their ramifications. The people doing this do
not have Norse ancestry, but most importantly "outlawery'" can be
used for political gain.

Mr. Dokken should be shunned and banned from groups, but is this
"outlawery", whcih would predicate his murder?

Mr. Dokken may very well deserve outlawery, but what does the
paddy/polack/bavarian hun convention have anything to do with
this. They seem power-mad to me, as their historic precedence has
shown.

shakes head

As stated above I was referring to the use of "outlawery" in
modern-day heathen groups for political or personal gain. Most
"outlaweries" that I know of were for political reasons.

I've never "outlawed" anyone although I'm inclined to agree with
outlawing Dokken.

Mr. Dokken obviously deserves to be recognized for what he is and
everyone should be aware of his crimes.

Indeed.

If someone with NORTHERN GERMANIC BLOOD ever joined these groups,
or their crusade, then everyone involved would probably have a
heart attack.

Plenty of people in this newsgroup would have Northern Germanic
Blood...

I am quite aware of that, but it should be more than plenty, it
should be the majority.

There's no "should" about it. It is highly likely though, that this
is the case.

This is an incendinary post, but I am sick and tired of this
bull****.

We know you by your words.

I stand up by what I say and if I say something that is wrong , then
I say so.

Looking back, I should not have used the ethnic perjoratives.

By your words we know you.

(after Nik states seveal anecdotal points not related to my last
statement)

I note that you've not replied to my comments about Ireland and the
Norse influence. The very name of the country and its capital were
named by Norsemen. The influence of Norsemen in Ireland is more
important than you seem to realise.

The name "Dublin" is in itself a Gaelic word meaning "Black or Deep
Pool" but it was picked by Norsemen. The Gaelic name for Dublin is
Baile Atha Cliath.

More importantly, by my actions you will know me.

Indeed actions are more important than words but as it stands, given
that we're not physically in each other's presence tis words that
matter here.

tis, tis it?

Bwawhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhahwhahhw!

Bertie

Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:38:03 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:27:25 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:44 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:08 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:01:33 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

Oh, Fantastic!

The paddy

Are you talking about me? If so, tell me who it was that founded
Dublin, Cork and Limerick...Who was Sigtrig Silkbeard? Where was he
King of?

The link of modern-day Irish to the samll number of Germanic
forebearers is tenuous at best.

No its not. Do you know what Galway means? How about Baile naGall?

The Norse and Irish considered
themselves quite distinct, enough so that the Irish kicked the Norse
out at the Battle of Clontarf.

No they didn't. They were allowed to remain but in a much more
quiescent manner.

The description of the Irish by the Norse in the sagas are quite
unflattering, and to some modern readers, seem almost comical. That
is to be expected of rivals, so that isn't a big deal.

Which Saga, in particular, are you speaking of?

The modern Irish owe most of the Germanic contributions to their
culture to the English, not the Norse.

There are word in Gaelic that are undeniably of Norse origin.

/polack/hun "asatru" alliance has just declared someone an
outlaw.

If you were speaking of me, I have not explicitly done anything
either way on this matter.

I didn't say you did anything. I am somewhat dismayed at people
using archaic Norse terms and customs to modern day situations
without understanding their ramifications. The people doing this do
not have Norse ancestry, but most importantly "outlawery'" can be
used for political gain.

Mr. Dokken should be shunned and banned from groups, but is this
"outlawery", whcih would predicate his murder?

Mr. Dokken may very well deserve outlawery, but what does the
paddy/polack/bavarian hun convention have anything to do with
this. They seem power-mad to me, as their historic precedence has
shown.

shakes head

As stated above I was referring to the use of "outlawery" in
modern-day heathen groups for political or personal gain. Most
"outlaweries" that I know of were for political reasons.

I've never "outlawed" anyone although I'm inclined to agree with
outlawing Dokken.

Mr. Dokken obviously deserves to be recognized for what he is and
everyone should be aware of his crimes.

Indeed.

If someone with NORTHERN GERMANIC BLOOD ever joined these groups,
or their crusade, then everyone involved would probably have a
heart attack.

Plenty of people in this newsgroup would have Northern Germanic
Blood...

I am quite aware of that, but it should be more than plenty, it
should be the majority.

There's no "should" about it. It is highly likely though, that this
is the case.

This is an incendinary post, but I am sick and tired of this
bull****.

We know you by your words.

I stand up by what I say and if I say something that is wrong , then
I say so.

Looking back, I should not have used the ethnic perjoratives.

By your words we know you.

If you are offended by my speech, then ....

*You* were the one who was implying that a "Paddy" ought not be here
or talking about Heathen issues and it was me that took you up on it,
being the most Irish one here. I pointed out some of the "Norseness"
of Ireland and you, in your ignorance, made comments about the Vikings
being kicked out of Ireland after Clontarf.

It is true that Ireland's history was at a crossroads in 1014 A.D. but
it is NOT true that given that Ard Ri Brian Boru's forces held the day
in the biggest battle EVER fought on Irish soil that the Vikings were
kicked out, as you claimed. That, is simply not true.

By your words you do not belong here.

Hahahaha....you've got a career in stand up comedy...

It is because of people like you that people are creating private
yahoo goups without keeping track of this newsgroup (A.R.A.)

Those people have abandoned their posts. Not me.

Think about it.

No, you think about what you've said and why it is both wrong and
intended to offend. I am meaning the "Paddy" reference as if it is
some sort of disqualification from being Asatru...you're sounding like
Bertie/Roger Williams there...that was his argument...


Bwawhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwh a!


But you said I refused to argue anything Njikky.

So, which is the lie?

Bertie

(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
om:

Derrick Parfitt wrote:
Nik wrote:

The modern Irish owe most of the Germanic contributions to their
culture to the English, not the Norse.

Thanks for switching from the general northern european to the
specific Norse.


Does he get a toaster for that?

Bertie

(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
m:

Derrick Parfitt wrote:
Dirk Bruere wrote:

Although, if one were to take it literally it would mean that any
Asatruar who killed him would be subject to no opprobrium from
those Asatruar who agreed with such a penalty.

Note the "from those who agreed with such a penalty" part.

You are correct. Any reprisal against this child molester cannot be
done. Well, it can , but the potential rath of the authorities will
probably prevent anything happening to this person.

Mostly because the chances of someone who agreed with such a penalty
have a very low cahnce of making onto the jury. If I ended up on
such a jury I'd do my best to play the nice little boy to get on that
jury.

Because you are a natchel bawn LIAR!

Bertie

Nik wrote in
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:15:12 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:06:11 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:34:10 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:27:25 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:44 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:08 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:01:33 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

cut

I am aware of the Norse influence on Ireland. We disagree on the
amount of Norse contribution to Ireland.

I've spent time actually on the ground looking at Norse remains. I
lived for 12 months in exactly the area that Norsemen lived in 1000
years ago. I've been to Tolka Wood where Brian Boru camped the night
before the Battle of Clontarf 1014, I've been to Clontarf itself.

I was lined up to be the assistant manager at the "Dublin Viking
Adventure" until the Dublin Corporation, in its infinite wisdom (not!)
closed it down. I've given lectures in Dublin on Viking Dublin.

I feel that the Norse were a minor affect.

There are still Norse words in modern Irish Gaelic, for example,
"Bord" for table, "Gard" for policeman, "Ruin" for secret...and
more...

Ooow the invader is so proud.

Bertie