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Bertie the Bunyip September 13th 03 06:28 PM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
"steelfoot" wrote in
:

Heya -

"Heidi Graw" wrote in message
. ca...

"steelfoot" wrote in message

...
Hail All!

This post is a public announcement of the outlawry of Eric James
Dokken.

Eric James Dokken is a child molester with multiple offences.


As an incarcerated person, I'm assuming he will be getting some kind
of treatment.


Yes he is - just as he apparently received treatment the other times
he was incarcerated.

This 'individual' is a multiple offender. Some folks do not deserve a
chance at redemption - especially those who threaten the well-being of
our children and our future.

However, being aware of how totally ineffectual and incapable
prisons systems are with respect to sex offenders, I'm hoping some

Asatruar
will provide whatever councelling and support services Eric Dokken
needs. If he were in BC, I would be doing my heathen duty by
recommending him to

an
excellent psychologist (a friend of mine) who specializes in sex
offenses. So.....I'm going to ignore this outlaw order. The man has
been found out. He is charged and is incarcarated and I'm hoping he
will get what he needs to deal with his very serious problem.


Egads. Well, maybe they will let him move up there with you, where he
can molest your children and the children of your friends and
neighbors.

I am finding it extremely difficult to be civil with this response.
Frankly, I think people and attitudes like you and your's represent as
much a danger to the future of Heathenry and Asatru as do people like
Dokken.

Since you elect to 'ignore this outlawry', please be assured that you
will henceforth be ignored by all who support it.


Bwawhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwh!

What about dopers?


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip September 14th 03 10:17 PM

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"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" wrote in news:bk2bms$oj9qv$1@ID-
120108.news.uni-berlin.de:


"Derrick Parfitt" wrote in message
...
Oh, Fantastic!

The paddy/polack/hun "asatru" alliance has just declared someone an
outlaw. Mr. Dokken may very well deserve outlawery, but what does the
paddy/polack/bavarian hun convention have anything to do with this.
They seem power-mad to me, as their historic precedence has shown.

If someone with NORTHERN GERMANIC BLOOD ever joined these groups, or
their crusade, then everyone involved would probably have a heart
attack.

This is an incendinary post, but I am sick and tired of this bull****.



You don't see Heathens responding to an incident like this happening in
Britain?
Because I do.


I'm sure you do, Djirkie.

Bertie


Bertie the Bunyip September 15th 03 01:39 AM

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(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
om:

So is this the first outlawry you folks have issued? Good stuff.
Some groups have outlawed folks for making unpleasant statements where
this guy pleaded guilty in a real court before you issued it.



bwawhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahw!


Bertie

Vladimir Fukovski September 15th 03 03:39 AM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:39:56 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

(Doug Freyburger) wrote in
om:

So is this the first outlawry you folks have issued? Good stuff.
Some groups have outlawed folks for making unpleasant statements where
this guy pleaded guilty in a real court before you issued it.



bwawhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahwhhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahw!


Bertie


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Ian September 15th 03 06:02 AM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
Bertie the Bunyip must be edykated coz e writed:

Text Medium wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"steelfoot" wrote in
:

Hail All!

This post is a public announcement of the outlawry of Eric James
Dokken.

Eric James Dokken is a child molester with multiple offences.

so, nazis AND child molestors.


This post is a public announcement from the Northlands Tribe. For more
information - including court documentation, please go to either of
the following:

http://runehof.org/nithing/dokken.html

http://www.wulfsgeist.com/njdokkenoutlawry.htm

Please note that many Heathen Kindreds have supported this action.
These kindreds and their chieftains are listed. The web-documents
supplied above provide links for any other folks who might wish to
join this declaration.

Hail Our Heathen Way!
Hail Vengeance!
Hail Justice!

steelfoot
Law Speaker, Runehof Asatru Kindred
Northlands Tribe


Waht do you call 1,000 law speakers at the bottom of the sea?


A good start?



That's good too! I was gonna say it was a typical neonazi sailing
expedition, though.

bertie

Can you people stop cross posting this drivel?

--
Ian




Dirk Bruere at Neopax September 15th 03 10:26 AM

Asatru resources
 


I invite other Asatruar to add their own, which I will then combine.
I would also appreciate info on failed links.
If anyone has objections to any site or org then mail me with precise
details.

Note that listed here are only a fraction of the available resources.
However, enough should exist here to enable you to find what I omit.

There is also a copy of this on my site at

http://www.neopax.com/asatru/AsatruResources.TXT

feel free to link to it if you're feeling lazy.

Also, this information can be copied/used in any way by anyone. I claim no
copyright over this list nor any intellectual property rights.


Mailing lists:
http://www.irminsul.org/as/aswlist.html THE list of lists
http://groups.yahoo.com/community/Our_Meadhall *Continuation of A_N_A
http://www.heathengyldas.com/ *AngloSaxon Heathenry
http://www.eskimo.com/~valkyrie/as/aslal.html *The Asatru-L list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatru-U
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASHMAIL *Anglo-Saxon Heathen Mail List
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hagalazrunedance
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Heathenbooks *Beginning Lore Study Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galdrabok *Runes/magick
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeathenHerbs *Herbalism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HeathenParenting
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saxontroth
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/asalist.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asynjur *Female aspects
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatru-Daily-Quiz
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatroth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HammersandAttitudes *Hail Thor!
http://eGroups.com/group/nordisk_asetro *Nordisk Asetro
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Norse_Mythology
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Regintroth *Northvegr Félag
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Northern-Lore-Quiz/ *Daily quiz
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Well/ *The Well


Magazines
http://onn.dlhc.org/ *Odins Nation News
http://TheRunestone.com *The Runestone
http://stoneheathen.org *Stone Heathen and Wotans Watchtower
http://www.odinic-rite.org/orbonline.html *magazine section of Odinic Rite
http://www.heathenry.org/news/ *Heathen News - general
http://www.northvegr.org/leidstjarna/index.html *Journal of the Northern
Star
http://www.northvegr.org/tru/index.html *Asatru archeology
*Bearclaw mailed from the AFA

Organisations:

http://www.kith-of-yggdrasil.org *Kith of Yggdrasil (UK)
http://www.odinic-rite.org/ *The Odinic Rite
http://www.runestone.org/ *Asatru Folk Assembly
http://www.irminsul.org/ *Irminsul Aettir
http://www.ealdriht.org/ *Angelseaxisce Ealdriht Webpage
http://www.thetroth.org/ *The Troth
http://alliance.eagleut.com/ *Asatru Alliance
http://www.asatru.org/ *Asatru Alliance
http://www.mackaos.com.au/Pagan/AET.html *Assembly of the Elder Troth
http://www.friggasweb.org *Frigga's web
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/pbrough/stav/index.html *STAV - martial art
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atla...575/about.html *Wednesbury Theod
http://www.ciak.org/ *Confederation of Independent Asatru Kindreds
http://www.northvegr.org/ *Northvegr Félag (was Midhnott Sol)
http://www.europaltd.com/ *The Rune Gild
http://www.bifrost.no/ *Åsatrufellesskapet Bifrost
http://www.fornsidr.dk/ *Firn Siðr, Ase- og Vanesamfundet i Danmark
http://www.asatro.a.se/ *Sveriges Asatrosamfund
http://www.forn-sed.org/
http://www.astradyne.co.uk/midgard/ *Midgards Web
http://www.thorshof.org/
http://www.aswynn.co.uk/ *Freya Aswynn
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/ *The English Companions
http://www.vigrid.freeserve.co.uk/ *Wodens Folk (English)
http://www.heathenry.org/ *Norse Heathenry Society
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5346/ *New Zealand Asatru Fellowship

Sites:

http://mail.surfamerica.net/~hewitt/contents.htm *Steve Hewitt's site
http://home.earthlink.net/~lavransrm/ *Marklander, Lavrans page
http://www.bcsupernet.com/users/wodan/ *Wodanesdag Press
http://home.columbus.rr.com/greatashkindred
http://www.asgardtroth.org *Asgard Troth
http://www.river-wood-samfelag.org
http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and...y/Pagan/Asatru *Staffan
Vilcans
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Foru...u/asalink.html *An Asatru
resources list
http://www.geocities.com/athens/forum/5346/ *New Zealand Fellowship
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/RBValues.html *The Nine Virtues
http://members.tripod.com/redwolfs_hall/redwolf.htm *Redwolf's Hall
http://members.tripod.com/redwolfs_hall/projectmain.htm *The Union project*
http://www1.tip.nl/users/t887876/ *Nehelennia Sibbe
http://members.home.net/tagbarbarason/
http://www.runahof.fsnet.co.uk/
http://www.runenstab.de *German Runesites
http://www.runenring.de
http://www.imperia-europa.org/ *French site, very good technically
http://www.webcom.com/~lstead/Ravenbok.html *Raven kindred
http://www.asatru-online.de/ * Stilkam's Asatru-Online.de
http://www.geocities.com/osred/ *Odinism Australia
http://www.frostmaiden.com/VTA/main.htm *Vinland Tribal Alliance
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/iac/ *Indiana Asatru Council
http://www.heidendom.nl/ *Netherlands
http://www.arild-hauge.com/ *Norwegian site
http://www.candlepublishing.co.uk/frigg/index.htm *Fellowship of Frigg -
female aspects

Other:
http://www.geocities.com/hgraw/Nanagoat0.html *Poems and stories for young
children
http://www.runegild.org/runaraven1.html *Runa Raven Press

http://www.oxfordancestors.com *Genetic profiling on male and female lines
http://www.jelldragon.com *Excellent British source of Heathen goods
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/OMACL/ *Online Medieval And Classical Resources
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/mythlinks.html *Germanic myths and legends
http://www.asatru.is/ *Asatru in Iceland
http://asatru.org/wrldtree.htm *World Tree Publications
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ye_Brewers_N_Cooks *Brewing and Cooking group
http://come.to/norse.com *Norse mythology
http://ealdriht.heathengyldas.com/personals/ *For romance and
friendship...?
http://ealdriht.heathengyldas.com/haligwaerstow *Haligwaerstow Priest Guild
http://www.solorb.com/gfc/mead//mead.html *Mead
http://www.midhnottsol.org/dictionary/index.html *An Asatru Dictionary
http://www.undernet.org /join #Asatru, IRC Undernet Chat
http://www.irminsul.org/ru/ru.html *Runelore
http://www.europaltd.com/ *Ritual items for sale
http://radio-asatru.org *RADIO ASATRU
http://members.aol.com/cbsunny/ *Mostly Runes, a good treatment!
http://www11.ewebcity.com/izekube/runes.asp *Your name in runes
http://members.aol.com/asoren/Heathen/Herbal.htm *Herbal resource list
http://www.geocities.com/folkway_tradehall/index.html *Folkway Tradehall
http://lorestore.org *New and used books
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/sifsbles...tunicslrg.html *Clothing
http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/runes/fonts.html *Runic fonts
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare...557/fonts1.htm *Runic and other
fonts
http://huginn.ealdriht.org/ *Asatru Search Engine - find it here!
http://q.webring.com/hub?ring=asatruandheathen *Crafts webring
http://www.calontirtrim.com/ *Patterned trims for clothing
http://www.eddan.net/ *Eddas set to music


--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millennium
http://www.theconsensus.org



Bertie the Bunyip September 15th 03 06:04 PM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
Ian wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip must be edykated coz e writed:

Text Medium wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"steelfoot" wrote in
:

Hail All!

This post is a public announcement of the outlawry of Eric James
Dokken.

Eric James Dokken is a child molester with multiple offences.

so, nazis AND child molestors.


This post is a public announcement from the Northlands Tribe. For
more information - including court documentation, please go to
either of the following:

http://runehof.org/nithing/dokken.html

http://www.wulfsgeist.com/njdokkenoutlawry.htm

Please note that many Heathen Kindreds have supported this action.
These kindreds and their chieftains are listed. The web-documents
supplied above provide links for any other folks who might wish to
join this declaration.

Hail Our Heathen Way!
Hail Vengeance!
Hail Justice!

steelfoot
Law Speaker, Runehof Asatru Kindred
Northlands Tribe


Waht do you call 1,000 law speakers at the bottom of the sea?

A good start?



That's good too! I was gonna say it was a typical neonazi sailing
expedition, though.

bertie

Can you people stop cross posting this drivel?


what's in it for me?


Bertei

Bertie the Bunyip September 22nd 03 10:31 PM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
Derrick Parfitt wrote in
:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:08:14 +0100, "Dirk Bruere at Neopax"
wrote:


"Derrick Parfitt" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:39:47 +0100, "Dirk Bruere at Neopax"
wrote:


"Derrick Parfitt" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Sep 2003 07:19:45 -0700, (Doug
Freyburger) wrote:

Let me get this straight. You're supporting a repeat offender
child buggerer, right? Wow.

No, I do not support the "child buggerers" actions. He has been
dealt with by the authorities. It should be left at that.


And when he gets out you're happy that nobody in the Asatru
community

knows
what he did, and will almost inevitably do again?


You are right. I stand corrected. Everyone should be notified of
what the child molester has done.

My displeasure was with the fact that outlawery can be applied
haphazardly and for personal or political gain. This was not the
case in the present situation with the child molester.


Well, most of the cases of 'outlawry' that I've heard of in the past
have been a trivialisation of that ancient punishment.
In this case, however, I think it justified.
Although, if one were to take it literally it would mean that any
Asatruar who killed him would be subject to no opprobrium from those
Asatruar who agreed with such a penalty.


You are correct. Any reprisal against this child molester cannot be
done. Well, it can , but the potential rath of the authorities will
probably prevent anything happening to this person.


Aww, Djirkie could do a swastie painting!

Bertie


Bertie the Bunyip September 25th 03 01:59 AM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:34:10 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:27:25 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:44 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:08 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:01:33 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

Oh, Fantastic!

The paddy

Are you talking about me? If so, tell me who it was that founded
Dublin, Cork and Limerick...Who was Sigtrig Silkbeard? Where was he
King of?

The link of modern-day Irish to the samll number of Germanic
forebearers is tenuous at best.

No its not. Do you know what Galway means? How about Baile naGall?

The Norse and Irish considered
themselves quite distinct, enough so that the Irish kicked the Norse
out at the Battle of Clontarf.

No they didn't. They were allowed to remain but in a much more
quiescent manner.

The description of the Irish by the Norse in the sagas are quite
unflattering, and to some modern readers, seem almost comical. That
is to be expected of rivals, so that isn't a big deal.

Which Saga, in particular, are you speaking of?

The modern Irish owe most of the Germanic contributions to their
culture to the English, not the Norse.

There are word in Gaelic that are undeniably of Norse origin.

/polack/hun "asatru" alliance has just declared someone an
outlaw.

If you were speaking of me, I have not explicitly done anything
either way on this matter.

I didn't say you did anything. I am somewhat dismayed at people
using archaic Norse terms and customs to modern day situations
without understanding their ramifications. The people doing this do
not have Norse ancestry, but most importantly "outlawery'" can be
used for political gain.

Mr. Dokken should be shunned and banned from groups, but is this
"outlawery", whcih would predicate his murder?

Mr. Dokken may very well deserve outlawery, but what does the
paddy/polack/bavarian hun convention have anything to do with
this. They seem power-mad to me, as their historic precedence has
shown.

shakes head

As stated above I was referring to the use of "outlawery" in
modern-day heathen groups for political or personal gain. Most
"outlaweries" that I know of were for political reasons.

I've never "outlawed" anyone although I'm inclined to agree with
outlawing Dokken.

Mr. Dokken obviously deserves to be recognized for what he is and
everyone should be aware of his crimes.

Indeed.

If someone with NORTHERN GERMANIC BLOOD ever joined these groups,
or their crusade, then everyone involved would probably have a
heart attack.

Plenty of people in this newsgroup would have Northern Germanic
Blood...

I am quite aware of that, but it should be more than plenty, it
should be the majority.

There's no "should" about it. It is highly likely though, that this
is the case.

This is an incendinary post, but I am sick and tired of this
bull****.

We know you by your words.

I stand up by what I say and if I say something that is wrong , then
I say so.

Looking back, I should not have used the ethnic perjoratives.

By your words we know you.


(after Nik states seveal anecdotal points not related to my last
statement)


I note that you've not replied to my comments about Ireland and the
Norse influence. The very name of the country and its capital were
named by Norsemen. The influence of Norsemen in Ireland is more
important than you seem to realise.

The name "Dublin" is in itself a Gaelic word meaning "Black or Deep
Pool" but it was picked by Norsemen. The Gaelic name for Dublin is
Baile Atha Cliath.

More importantly, by my actions you will know me.


Indeed actions are more important than words but as it stands, given
that we're not physically in each other's presence tis words that
matter here.


tis, tis it?

Bwawhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahwhahwhahhw!

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip September 25th 03 02:06 AM

Announcment of Outlawry
 
Nik wrote in
:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:38:03 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:27:25 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:02:44 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:08 +1200, Nik
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 16:01:33 GMT, Derrick Parfitt
wrote:

Oh, Fantastic!

The paddy

Are you talking about me? If so, tell me who it was that founded
Dublin, Cork and Limerick...Who was Sigtrig Silkbeard? Where was he
King of?

The link of modern-day Irish to the samll number of Germanic
forebearers is tenuous at best.

No its not. Do you know what Galway means? How about Baile naGall?

The Norse and Irish considered
themselves quite distinct, enough so that the Irish kicked the Norse
out at the Battle of Clontarf.

No they didn't. They were allowed to remain but in a much more
quiescent manner.

The description of the Irish by the Norse in the sagas are quite
unflattering, and to some modern readers, seem almost comical. That
is to be expected of rivals, so that isn't a big deal.

Which Saga, in particular, are you speaking of?

The modern Irish owe most of the Germanic contributions to their
culture to the English, not the Norse.

There are word in Gaelic that are undeniably of Norse origin.

/polack/hun "asatru" alliance has just declared someone an
outlaw.

If you were speaking of me, I have not explicitly done anything
either way on this matter.

I didn't say you did anything. I am somewhat dismayed at people
using archaic Norse terms and customs to modern day situations
without understanding their ramifications. The people doing this do
not have Norse ancestry, but most importantly "outlawery'" can be
used for political gain.

Mr. Dokken should be shunned and banned from groups, but is this
"outlawery", whcih would predicate his murder?

Mr. Dokken may very well deserve outlawery, but what does the
paddy/polack/bavarian hun convention have anything to do with
this. They seem power-mad to me, as their historic precedence has
shown.

shakes head

As stated above I was referring to the use of "outlawery" in
modern-day heathen groups for political or personal gain. Most
"outlaweries" that I know of were for political reasons.

I've never "outlawed" anyone although I'm inclined to agree with
outlawing Dokken.

Mr. Dokken obviously deserves to be recognized for what he is and
everyone should be aware of his crimes.

Indeed.

If someone with NORTHERN GERMANIC BLOOD ever joined these groups,
or their crusade, then everyone involved would probably have a
heart attack.

Plenty of people in this newsgroup would have Northern Germanic
Blood...

I am quite aware of that, but it should be more than plenty, it
should be the majority.

There's no "should" about it. It is highly likely though, that this
is the case.

This is an incendinary post, but I am sick and tired of this
bull****.

We know you by your words.

I stand up by what I say and if I say something that is wrong , then
I say so.

Looking back, I should not have used the ethnic perjoratives.

By your words we know you.


If you are offended by my speech, then ....


*You* were the one who was implying that a "Paddy" ought not be here
or talking about Heathen issues and it was me that took you up on it,
being the most Irish one here. I pointed out some of the "Norseness"
of Ireland and you, in your ignorance, made comments about the Vikings
being kicked out of Ireland after Clontarf.

It is true that Ireland's history was at a crossroads in 1014 A.D. but
it is NOT true that given that Ard Ri Brian Boru's forces held the day
in the biggest battle EVER fought on Irish soil that the Vikings were
kicked out, as you claimed. That, is simply not true.

By your words you do not belong here.


Hahahaha....you've got a career in stand up comedy...

It is because of people like you that people are creating private
yahoo goups without keeping track of this newsgroup (A.R.A.)


Those people have abandoned their posts. Not me.

Think about it.


No, you think about what you've said and why it is both wrong and
intended to offend. I am meaning the "Paddy" reference as if it is
some sort of disqualification from being Asatru...you're sounding like
Bertie/Roger Williams there...that was his argument...



Bwawhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwh a!


But you said I refused to argue anything Njikky.

So, which is the lie?

Bertie


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