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Jonathan Ganz September 12th 03 02:01 AM

possibly a new boat
 

"DSK" wrote in message
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Didn't know they made a flat-top 28. I'm familiar with the flat-top 25.


Yup... I like it better than the raised top Cal 29 as far as looks go.
I'm going to take her out early next week and see how she sails.

Is it one of those old 1960's self-tackers? I agree, you don't want that.


Yep... at least it comes off easily. :-)

I can get it for $6K and they'll split the haulout and survey with me.
They were asking $9K.

I'm going to do a sea trial hopefully soon.


I haven't got a complete list yet, but besides the new head, I'd imagine
that I'd want to replace the winches (two). Blocks are fine.. they look
new, but the survey should reveal any defects in the rigging or at least
a recommendation. That might be a way to lower the price.

I think I'll also have to replace the bats. I have an uninstalled shore
power
set up that I haven't used, so I could use that. I believe it doesn't have a
shore power connection right now. I'm also concerned about the effectiveness
of the alternator, but I'll know more after a bit more investigation.

Have you written up a list of everything you'd want to upgrade and how

much
it would cost? New blocks, new running rigging, new batteries (what sort

of
charger does it have?), new sails? Unless the standing rigging has been
renewed in the past ten years, I'd count on doing that too.


What did I say that leads you to that statement... the "given what you say
about the boat" part?

Thanks for the input!

Jonathan

$9K this boat is insane in the current market... $6K doesn't sound like

such
a bargain, given what you say about the boat.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




SAIL LOCO September 12th 03 03:31 AM

possibly a new boat
 
Why do you say "much more fun to sail"? I'm currently sailing
a 20' Cal, which *is* fun, but a bit small for the north bay.

Didn't know where you were or what your plans were. Everytime I've been to SF
Bay everybody had 2 reefs in. I would imagine you could sail a full keeled
tank out there and it would be fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Thom Stewart September 12th 03 03:35 AM

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Jon,

I guess you know that, in its day, that wasa real speed burner. A lot of
racing fleets ( wooden racing boat) Wouldn't allow them to race (Fibre
Glass) They were excluded. They changed racing

That said, They are pretty long in the tooth. A thing to look for is
leakage on the joint of the flat top two the hull. This was done in the
early days. There was still a lot to learn about fibre glass. If my
memory serves me the seam was hidden under a rather wide trim check for
water damage.

They were good sailing boat. They are well past their time but still
fair sailors

It will be a big brother for your 20!

If you find water sign and point it out, I bet the price could be forced
lower

Ole Thom


Horvath September 12th 03 05:37 AM

possibly a new boat
 
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:29:20 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Why do you say that? They commonly go for $10K.


Where I live, they give them away.
For six grand you can get something nice.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
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too much





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Jonathan Ganz September 12th 03 07:08 AM

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You live on Mars and you're an idiot.

The only thing you get for free is gonorrhea.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:29:20 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Why do you say that? They commonly go for $10K.


Where I live, they give them away.
For six grand you can get something nice.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
too much





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!




Jonathan Ganz September 12th 03 07:09 AM

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With a full keeled tank, I only need one reef. :-)

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Why do you say "much more fun to sail"? I'm currently sailing
a 20' Cal, which *is* fun, but a bit small for the north bay.

Didn't know where you were or what your plans were. Everytime I've been

to SF
Bay everybody had 2 reefs in. I would imagine you could sail a full

keeled
tank out there and it would be fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




Jonathan Ganz September 12th 03 07:10 AM

possibly a new boat
 
Thanks Thom!

All I get from current owners is lots a praise. I don't know if I can
swing keeping both boats. She who must be obeyed may not go
for it. :-)

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Jon,

I guess you know that, in its day, that wasa real speed burner. A lot of
racing fleets ( wooden racing boat) Wouldn't allow them to race (Fibre
Glass) They were excluded. They changed racing

That said, They are pretty long in the tooth. A thing to look for is
leakage on the joint of the flat top two the hull. This was done in the
early days. There was still a lot to learn about fibre glass. If my
memory serves me the seam was hidden under a rather wide trim check for
water damage.

They were good sailing boat. They are well past their time but still
fair sailors

It will be a big brother for your 20!

If you find water sign and point it out, I bet the price could be forced
lower

Ole Thom




Vito September 12th 03 06:10 PM

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The Captains Nemesis wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:

The only thing you get for free is gonorrhea.


I thought it cost $2.00

Naw "I got it from Maria. She loved only me-ah. But she gave it to me
free-ah. And now it's hard to pee - AH! HOOY! HOOY! ..." (old spanish
love song)

Jonathan Ganz September 12th 03 06:21 PM

possibly a new boat
 
Yes, for him that's correct.

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:08:27 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

You live on Mars and you're an idiot.

The only thing you get for free is gonorrhea.


I thought it cost $2.00


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.






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