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I'm looking at a mid-1960s Jensen Cal 28. Seems to be in great
shape. Inboard diesel (one cylinder seems to be quiet and doesn't
smoke with minimal vibration - for a one-banger), two jibs, main
in good shape, standard electronics (nothing fancy), interior is
newly painted, hull appears clean, standing rigging looks fine. Comes
with a spinaker and pole, anchor (not chrome unfortunately), has a
2-burner propane stove, teak inside seems to be in decent shape,
mostly. It's a flat top (no raised cabin).

Two deficits that I can see... it has an illegal head, so that has to get
changed... it has a self-tacking jib mechanism. Looks ugly, can't
imagine why I would want it set up like that.

I can get it for $6K and they'll split the haulout and survey with me.
They were asking $9K.

I'm going to do a sea trial hopefully soon.

Jonathan

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too much

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I'm looking at a mid-1960s Jensen Cal 28. Seems to be in great
shape. Inboard diesel (one cylinder seems to be quiet and doesn't
smoke with minimal vibration - for a one-banger), two jibs, main
in good shape, standard electronics (nothing fancy), interior is
newly painted, hull appears clean, standing rigging looks fine. Comes
with a spinaker and pole, anchor (not chrome unfortunately), has a
2-burner propane stove, teak inside seems to be in decent shape,
mostly. It's a flat top (no raised cabin).

Didn't know they made a flat-top 28. I'm familiar with the flat-top 25.



Two deficits that I can see... it has an illegal head, so that has to get
changed... it has a self-tacking jib mechanism. Looks ugly, can't
imagine why I would want it set up like that.

Is it one of those old 1960's self-tackers? I agree, you don't want that.



I can get it for $6K and they'll split the haulout and survey with me.
They were asking $9K.

I'm going to do a sea trial hopefully soon.

Have you written up a list of everything you'd want to upgrade and how much
it would cost? New blocks, new running rigging, new batteries (what sort of
charger does it have?), new sails? Unless the standing rigging has been
renewed in the past ten years, I'd count on doing that too.

$9K this boat is insane in the current market... $6K doesn't sound like such
a bargain, given what you say about the boat.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Two deficits that I can see... it has an illegal head, so that has to get
changed.

If your sailing on LIS no one will notice.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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What kind of sailing do you want to do? Mostly daysailing? I'd opt for a
smaller but newer design for the same money. A mid eighties 25 footer would be
fine for a few weekends out once in a while and would be much more fun to sail.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:28:19 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I'm looking at a mid-1960s Jensen Cal 28.

I can get it for $6K and they'll split the haulout and survey with me.
They were asking $9K.

You're going to pay $6k for a 40 year old boat? What do you use for
brains?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

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I'm on the left coast...

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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Two deficits that I can see... it has an illegal head, so that has to
get
changed.

If your sailing on LIS no one will notice.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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Why do you say that? They commonly go for $10K.

"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
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too much

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You know nothing about boats, so shut the **** up.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:28:19 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I'm looking at a mid-1960s Jensen Cal 28.

I can get it for $6K and they'll split the haulout and survey with me.
They were asking $9K.

You're going to pay $6k for a 40 year old boat? What do you use for
brains?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

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Right now, sailing on the SF bay. However, this is a big enough
and sturdy enough boat to deal with coastal Pacific weather, so
I'll probably end up taking it down or up the coast.. possibly do
the Baja Ha-Ha at some point.

The minimum size for the latter is 27'.

Why do you say "much more fun to sail"? I'm currently sailing
a 20' Cal, which *is* fun, but a bit small for the north bay.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
What kind of sailing do you want to do? Mostly daysailing? I'd opt for a
smaller but newer design for the same money. A mid eighties 25 footer
would be
fine for a few weekends out once in a while and would be much more fun to
sail.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Didn't know they made a flat-top 28. I'm familiar with the flat-top 25.

Yup... I like it better than the raised top Cal 29 as far as looks go.
I'm going to take her out early next week and see how she sails.

Is it one of those old 1960's self-tackers? I agree, you don't want that.

Yep... at least it comes off easily. :-)

I can get it for $6K and they'll split the haulout and survey with me.
They were asking $9K.

I'm going to do a sea trial hopefully soon.

I haven't got a complete list yet, but besides the new head, I'd imagine
that I'd want to replace the winches (two). Blocks are fine.. they look
new, but the survey should reveal any defects in the rigging or at least
a recommendation. That might be a way to lower the price.

I think I'll also have to replace the bats. I have an uninstalled shore
power
set up that I haven't used, so I could use that. I believe it doesn't have a
shore power connection right now. I'm also concerned about the effectiveness
of the alternator, but I'll know more after a bit more investigation.

Have you written up a list of everything you'd want to upgrade and how
much
it would cost? New blocks, new running rigging, new batteries (what sort
of
charger does it have?), new sails? Unless the standing rigging has been
renewed in the past ten years, I'd count on doing that too.

What did I say that leads you to that statement... the "given what you say
about the boat" part?

Thanks for the input!

Jonathan

$9K this boat is insane in the current market... $6K doesn't sound like
such
a bargain, given what you say about the boat.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Why do you say "much more fun to sail"? I'm currently sailing
a 20' Cal, which *is* fun, but a bit small for the north bay.

Didn't know where you were or what your plans were. Everytime I've been to SF
Bay everybody had 2 reefs in. I would imagine you could sail a full keeled
tank out there and it would be fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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Jon,

I guess you know that, in its day, that wasa real speed burner. A lot of
racing fleets ( wooden racing boat) Wouldn't allow them to race (Fibre
Glass) They were excluded. They changed racing

That said, They are pretty long in the tooth. A thing to look for is
leakage on the joint of the flat top two the hull. This was done in the
early days. There was still a lot to learn about fibre glass. If my
memory serves me the seam was hidden under a rather wide trim check for
water damage.

They were good sailing boat. They are well past their time but still
fair sailors

It will be a big brother for your 20!

If you find water sign and point it out, I bet the price could be forced
lower

Ole Thom

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:29:20 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Why do you say that? They commonly go for $10K.

Where I live, they give them away.
For six grand you can get something nice.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
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too much




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

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You live on Mars and you're an idiot.

The only thing you get for free is gonorrhea.

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:29:20 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Why do you say that? They commonly go for $10K.

Where I live, they give them away.
For six grand you can get something nice.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
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too much




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

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With a full keeled tank, I only need one reef. :-)

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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Why do you say "much more fun to sail"? I'm currently sailing
a 20' Cal, which *is* fun, but a bit small for the north bay.

Didn't know where you were or what your plans were. Everytime I've been
to SF
Bay everybody had 2 reefs in. I would imagine you could sail a full
keeled
tank out there and it would be fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

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Thanks Thom!

All I get from current owners is lots a praise. I don't know if I can
swing keeping both boats. She who must be obeyed may not go
for it. :-)

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Jon,

I guess you know that, in its day, that wasa real speed burner. A lot of
racing fleets ( wooden racing boat) Wouldn't allow them to race (Fibre
Glass) They were excluded. They changed racing

That said, They are pretty long in the tooth. A thing to look for is
leakage on the joint of the flat top two the hull. This was done in the
early days. There was still a lot to learn about fibre glass. If my
memory serves me the seam was hidden under a rather wide trim check for
water damage.

They were good sailing boat. They are well past their time but still
fair sailors

It will be a big brother for your 20!

If you find water sign and point it out, I bet the price could be forced
lower

Ole Thom

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The Captains Nemesis wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:

The only thing you get for free is gonorrhea.

I thought it cost $2.00

Naw "I got it from Maria. She loved only me-ah. But she gave it to me
free-ah. And now it's hard to pee - AH! HOOY! HOOY! ..." (old spanish
love song)

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Yes, for him that's correct.

"The Captains Nemesis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 23:08:27 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

You live on Mars and you're an idiot.

The only thing you get for free is gonorrhea.

I thought it cost $2.00


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