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Since Booby seems unable to answer this basic question, I'll do my best with the limited
info and resources I have at hand. I believe the time of ALien's entrance was 2AM on
Saturday, August 23. Low water was 35 minutes later, at 2:35AM. I think the current
corresponds closely to the tide height here, so ALien entered at the end of the Ebb. Had
she entered as had been planned, at 1:30, it would have been more than an hour before low.
I don't know how strong the current was that day, or the profile of the current at that
site, but the Ebb could have been as strong as 1.5 knots in the channel. Had they arrived
45 minutes earlier than planned they might have had a 2.5 knot ebb.

Booby also doesn't recall the wind direction - had it been strong from the NW this would
have been a very sloppy endeavor.

I find it very disappointing that these basic parameters were not worked out in advance,
and etched well into RB's memory.

Bobsprit wrote:
You seem to have it straight. What would you like to know?


Time of HW at Port Jefferson on the night that you entered????

I wonder what Donal would do with the answer?

RB



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"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
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Since Booby seems unable to answer this basic question, I'll do my best

with the limited
info and resources I have at hand. I believe the time of ALien's entrance

was 2AM on
Saturday, August 23. Low water was 35 minutes later, at 2:35AM. I think

the current
corresponds closely to the tide height here, so ALien entered at the end

of the Ebb. Had
she entered as had been planned, at 1:30, it would have been more than an

hour before low.
I don't know how strong the current was that day, or the profile of the

current at that
site, but the Ebb could have been as strong as 1.5 knots in the channel.

Had they arrived
45 minutes earlier than planned they might have had a 2.5 knot ebb.

Booby also doesn't recall the wind direction - had it been strong from the

NW this would
have been a very sloppy endeavor.

I find it very disappointing that these basic parameters were not worked

out in advance,
and etched well into RB's memory.


That might explain why he stopped to eat??? If they had arrived 2 hours
earlier then the current flowing out of the harbour would have been at it's
maximum.

So, Bob might be just pretending to know nothing about navigation.



Regards


Donal
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So, Bob might be just pretending to know nothing about navigation.

I'll never understand why people can't just enjoy something and not try to
unwind it.
Avoiding the max current was a good idea though, we should have waited another
hour, but I was sleepy!

RB
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So, Bob might be just pretending to know nothing about navigation.

I'll never understand why people can't just enjoy something and not try to
unwind it.
Avoiding the max current was a good idea though, we should have waited

another
hour, but I was sleepy!


Are you now saying that you planned your entry to coincide with slack water?



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hour, but I was sleepy!

Are you now saying that you planned your entry to coincide with slack water?

No friggin way and you'll not make that stick! We cooked steak and fish and
THAT determined the length of our wait.

RB


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We cooked steak and fish

Steak AND fish? What kind of pig are you?
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We cooked steak and fish

Steak AND fish? What kind of pig are you?

I don't eat red meat or pork. Suzanne likes steak. I eat only chicken and fish.

RB
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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hour, but I was sleepy!


Are you now saying that you planned your entry to coincide with slack

water?

No friggin way and you'll not make that stick!


Yikes! Calm down. I've never seen you respond like that before!


We cooked steak and fish and
THAT determined the length of our wait.


8 minutes, huh? ... I don't think so!!!


You were scared to enter P. Jeff at half tide. I don't blame you. As a
complete beginner, you probably didn't understand that it was NEAPS!! The
flow was probably only about 1.25kts.

Yes, Bob "One and a quarter knots". In other words - "sod all" current,
and a very easy entrance.

By waiting for slack water, you demonstrated admirable caution in the face
of unchallenging circumstances. Trans(for Oz).... "Chicken"!

Bwaaak, Bwaaaak, Bwaaaak!


Regards


Donal
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You give boobie far too much credit - I think he was totally oblivious to the state of the
tide or the possibility of current.

Even though it was neaps, with a max ebb of 2.6, they might have had 2.0 knots. But the
real issue would have been the wind - if it was strong NW it would have been a problem.
RB still hasn't mentioned the wind direction.

Donal wrote:
You were scared to enter P. Jeff at half tide. I don't blame you.
As a complete beginner, you probably didn't understand that it was
NEAPS!! The flow was probably only about 1.25kts.

Yes, Bob "One and a quarter knots". In other words - "sod all"
current, and a very easy entrance.

By waiting for slack water, you demonstrated admirable caution in the
face of unchallenging circumstances. Trans(for Oz).... "Chicken"!

Bwaaak, Bwaaaak, Bwaaaak!


Regards


Donal



 
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