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Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:05 PM

free foot main
 


That's what it does. It has the attributes you described.

You guys sure make a lot of assumptions based on
pictures that don't show it very well. Some nerve
you have, too, trying to tell me what I have when
you've not even seen it.

S.Simon


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
Yes it does. What makes you say it doesn't?

Because anyone can tell from the pictures you posted of the damn thing. Your
main just comes down and rolls into the boom on a smooth curve. A sail with a
shelf foot looks like a loose foot when eased but it is connected to the boom
by a light weight piece of sailcloth. That light weight piece of cloth forms a
"shelf" when the outhaul is eased and it looks like a horizontal flat shelf.
When the outhaul is pulled tight the "shelf" disapears under the stretched
foot.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:11 PM

free foot main
 
Do you want me to take a picture one of these days and
prove you and Loco wrong. You may be mislead by the
fact that you can see daylight between the boom and sliding
slug at the clew. You may also note there is black webbing
attaching the clew and said slug. I sewed the webbing on
after the original broke in the same gale that also broke
the boom in two. It also tore the material in the shelf in that
area. I didn't bother fixing the small tear in the shelf because
I felt it was of little consequence.

There, does that make you feel better, little one? Or, do
you need your sippy cup?

S.Simon


"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...

Sorry Cappy, no shelf on that foot....you was robbed!

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:11:28 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:



It is too a shelf foot, why do you day it isn't?

S.Simon

"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:16:16 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

How does the bolt rope in the boom limit the trim?

Mine bolt rope (3/8" polyester sewn to the sail)
stretches as the outhaul is heaved tight and the
sliding slug at the clew slides aft. The sail stretches at
the foot and the shelf actually closes so it is not even
evident. Only when the outhaul is slacked off to produce
a fuller sail is the shelf expanded. Maybe your shelf-footed
sail was poorly designed?

S.Simon

Ummm that's not a shelf foot Cappy!
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Thumbsup.html

Bwaaaahahahahahahahahaha!
What an idiot!!!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.






Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:13 PM

free foot main
 
OK, I'm getting tired of your crap. Let's bet.
Put your money where your pie hole is, boy.

S.Simon


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ...
Here is a quote from the "Mainsail Instructions" that came with the sail.

You got the wrong papers with the sail.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport




Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:14 PM

free foot main
 
Hey, Thom you old fart,




Sincerely,
S.Simon



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Loco,

His main is so old the original instructions were written with a quill
pen ;^)

That's why he sails so little, his sail retired two years before he
didG

When his main was made they didn't have shelves, they were called
porticos

That is why he is such a conservative Bush man. That is how his sails
voted!! LOL

And; "I'LL HAVE A DRAM OF SPICED RUM WITH MY TEA TONIGHT!"

Ole Thom


Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:14 PM

free foot main
 
Hey, Thom you old fart,




Sincerely,
S.Simon



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Loco,

His main is so old the original instructions were written with a quill
pen ;^)

That's why he sails so little, his sail retired two years before he
didG

When his main was made they didn't have shelves, they were called
porticos

That is why he is such a conservative Bush man. That is how his sails
voted!! LOL

And; "I'LL HAVE A DRAM OF SPICED RUM WITH MY TEA TONIGHT!"

Ole Thom


Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:15 PM

free foot main
 
You care to put up or shut up like I told that
weenie Loco?

S.Simon


"The Captains Master" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:26:04 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Here is a quote from the "Mainsail Instructions" that came with the sail.

"Foot Tension - turning to the foot of the sail, the sail is cut to reach the
outhaul band with sufficient outhaul tension to close the shelf in the foot.
This may mean that the outhaul has to be pulled quite hard because the
rope in the foot of the sail is tight and must be stretched."

It has a shelf at the foot, therefore it is a shelf-footed sail.

S.Simon


They gave you the wrong instructions.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Simple Simon September 6th 03 04:22 PM

free foot main
 
I've a stainless steel/brass, four block tackle attached to the end of
the boom the bitter end of the line of which goes around the end of
the boom on a nice smooth radius built for that purpose and the line
is secured by a clam cleat. Why?

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

You say you ease the outhaul to get a fuller sail, How do you secure the
outhaul to keep the full trim?

Ole Thom




Thom Stewart September 6th 03 05:17 PM

free foot main
 
Hey Guys,

Neal's sail is (or was) self footed but is so blown out that there is no
reason to ease the outhaul. That sail is baggy enough with full outhaul
pressure. The shelf has become part of the sail.

When he gets his new main he'll probably get the sail off the shrouds.

Neal, we've never asked, are you going to specify a shelf in your new
sail? You could save a buck or two with a simple closed footed sail.

OT


Thom Stewart September 6th 03 05:53 PM

free foot main
 
Neal,

You described how you tension the foot of your sail. I asked how you set
the outhaul when you ease it? Do you just depend on the boltrope
tension? What draws the outhaul in and maintains its' position.

Even on my old sail, with the shelf, I had a drawstring on the foot to
control the curve. You've never mentioned what maintains the curve of
the foot you set. Does the bolt rope supply enough tension to keep the
outhaul fast against the cleat? I figured that the bolt rope is looser
after all these years.

Just curious?

OT


Simple Simon September 6th 03 08:18 PM

free foot main
 
It's gonna have a shelf-foot just like the North.

Here are the specs.

Coronado 27 - Mainsail,
P-27' E-9.5'
area 134 ft2 - cross cut
6.9 US oz dacron - white color
4 x standard battens
2 reef points at 4' and 8' above boom with clam cleat at each reef
Triple Stitch
Aluminum Headboard
Leechline with clam cleat
Luff : 1/2" slug slides
Shelf foot
Foot hardware is included (sliding slug 3/8" diameter)
Number : 91 in black color on both side
Coronado Insignia on both side in black color
Tack Offset : a-5 3/8", b-1", c-sliding, d-6", e-1", f-3/4"
Patches at head, tack, clew and reef
Telltales
Sailbag
USD515.95

Of course there's also a working jib to match:


Coronado 27 - 100% Hanks Jib,
I-32.4' J-10.75
luff-27' leech-22' foot-12'
area 130 ft2 - cross cut
6.9 US oz dacron - white color
Hanks on luff (3/16" forestay wire)
Triple Stitch
Draft Strip
Leechline & Footline with clam cleat
Patches at head, tack and clew
Telltales
Sailbag
USD379.70

Jealous? When they're delivered in about two to three weeks
I'll bend 'em on and go sailing. I'll take some pictures and
make a new page so you can compare with the old pages.

If they impress me I'll even put in a good word and a link for
the sailmaker. Maybe drum up some more business for him.

That way when I sail to Honk Kong some day, I'll have
a contact there.

S.Simon - the one and only Master Mariner in the newsgroup.




"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Hey Guys,

Neal's sail is (or was) self footed but is so blown out that there is no
reason to ease the outhaul. That sail is baggy enough with full outhaul
pressure. The shelf has become part of the sail.

When he gets his new main he'll probably get the sail off the shrouds.

Neal, we've never asked, are you going to specify a shelf in your new
sail? You could save a buck or two with a simple closed footed sail.

OT





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