Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"


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"Shen44" wrote in message
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What watch does the Captain stand?
He gets to stand the watch of his choice.

Who is the designated "Navigation Officer"?
The Mate

Who steers the ship at sea .... in port?
At sea the helmsman steers, in port the pilot steers.

What are the 3M's duties?
Don't know what a 3M is - speak English!

Who maintains the radio log?
The Mate

What is a deadmans switch?
A switch that closes when not held open by the operator

How many whistle controls, on the bridge?
Automatic or manual?

How many EOT's?
EOT cranes on the bridge? None.

Wrong. If you knew what was going on, you'd know that an EOT is an Engine Order
Telegraph.

How many methods of steering on the bridge?
Two

Wrong At least three and sometimes more.

What are "Noon slips" and how many are there?
Positions at noon. There are three.

Wrong. (Not enough info) What are the three?

Who keeps the Bell Log?
Mate

Which Mate? partial....at last.

What's in a Bell Log?
Commands and times, things like full astern, full ahead.
It often contains of a standard set of symbols.

Partial


How often do you have to wind the course recorder?
Once a day if before the electronic age. You don't wind
the electronic ones.

Wrong. They were 8 day clocks

G just a few, Neal .... let's see how you do

Better than you thought, huh.

Nope, worse ... I gave you credit, you obviously didn't deserve.

Shen

I thought the bell log was maintained traditionally by the oiler, and was a record of
shaft RPMs. I assume now its automatic and merged with GPS output.

Shen44 wrote:
Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"


OOPS, hit the wrong button ..... to continue .....


"Shen44" wrote in message
...

What watch does the Captain stand?
He gets to stand the watch of his choice.

Who is the designated "Navigation Officer"?
The Mate

Who steers the ship at sea .... in port?
At sea the helmsman steers, in port the pilot steers.

What are the 3M's duties?
Don't know what a 3M is - speak English!

Who maintains the radio log?
The Mate

What is a deadmans switch?
A switch that closes when not held open by the operator

How many whistle controls, on the bridge?
Automatic or manual?

How many EOT's?
EOT cranes on the bridge? None.

Wrong. If you knew what was going on, you'd know that an EOT is an
Engine Order Telegraph.

How many methods of steering on the bridge?
Two

Wrong At least three and sometimes more.

What are "Noon slips" and how many are there?
Positions at noon. There are three.

Wrong. (Not enough info) What are the three?

Who keeps the Bell Log?
Mate

Which Mate? partial....at last.

What's in a Bell Log?
Commands and times, things like full astern, full ahead.
It often contains of a standard set of symbols.

Partial


How often do you have to wind the course recorder?
Once a day if before the electronic age. You don't wind
the electronic ones.

Wrong. They were 8 day clocks

G just a few, Neal .... let's see how you do

Better than you thought, huh.

Nope, worse ... I gave you credit, you obviously didn't deserve.

Shen

ect: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom
Date: 09/02/2003 18:46 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I thought the bell log was maintained traditionally by the oiler, and was a
record of
shaft RPMs. I assume now its automatic and merged with GPS output.

Actually, EG Neal almost got this one totally correct.
The "Bell" book used to be kept by the engineer on watch and another, by the
Mate on watch, while maneuvering, and was mainly a log of the time and type of
engine order, starting with SBE and ending with FWE (Some ships would call SBE
on Arrival) Symbols were used for the bells to facilitate noting them.
Some ships would also include major nav points in the Bell Book, but this was
rare.
Nowadays, this is an automated system, which includes just Engine orders and is
solely based on time .... no GPS input ..... sometimes one on the bridge and
one in the E.R.

Shen

Hey, I got most of them right.

Just because you responded with 'wrong' every time
because my answers didn't match yours perfectly
doesn't mean I was wrong.

The only ones I really missed was the EOT
and I was right because my use of EOT is
just as valid as yours. Unless your explain
the initials they can mean whatever they are
valid for.

All my Mate answers were right. A first, second
and third Mate is still a Mate.

My answer for a deadman's switch is also
correct. It's the accepted use of the term.

If the captain doesn't stand a watch then he's
not doing his job. A watch doen't have to be
one continuous length of time. Any time the
captain is involved and giving orders he's on
watch. Only when he's sleeping or otherwise
indisposed is he not on watch.

You're just upset because I've never even
been on the bridge of a big ship and I
managed to get most of your questions
right.

Give me a day or two training and I could
easily run a big ship successfully. Besides
that, *I* would slow down to safe speed and
give sailboats and other vessels that sounded
one prolonged/two short blasts their rightful
stand-on status in restricted visibility.

S.Simon - a Captain, who with a day's hands-on
bridge training, could run a tighter ship than Shen44.



"Shen44" wrote in message ...
ect: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom
Date: 09/02/2003 18:46 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I thought the bell log was maintained traditionally by the oiler, and was a
record of
shaft RPMs. I assume now its automatic and merged with GPS output.

Actually, EG Neal almost got this one totally correct.
The "Bell" book used to be kept by the engineer on watch and another, by the
Mate on watch, while maneuvering, and was mainly a log of the time and type of
engine order, starting with SBE and ending with FWE (Some ships would call SBE
on Arrival) Symbols were used for the bells to facilitate noting them.
Some ships would also include major nav points in the Bell Book, but this was
rare.
Nowadays, this is an automated system, which includes just Engine orders and is
solely based on time .... no GPS input ..... sometimes one on the bridge and
one in the E.R.

Shen

Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"

Hey, I got most of them right.

No, you got most of them wrong, which means you flunked this test for Master
and proves my point that you don't have a clue as to what's going on on a ship.

Just because you responded with 'wrong' every time
because my answers didn't match yours perfectly
doesn't mean I was wrong.

Everytime I responded with wrong, the answer was so far incorrect or showed a
total lack of knowledge, it deserved a "WRONG".

The only ones I really missed was the EOT
and I was right because my use of EOT is
just as valid as yours. Unless your explain
the initials they can mean whatever they are
valid for.

You're great at making excuses for your lack of knowledge, but as per usual, it
doesn't cut it.
The subject in question was what goes on on a bridge of a ship .... you say you
know it all, yet you don't know the simple initials EOT, used frequently
onboard a ship.

You missed most answers.

All my Mate answers were right. A first, second
and third Mate is still a Mate.

If you had any experience or knowledge of a ship, you'd know this to be
incorrect. Mates on a ship, are specific as to duties and experience level to
be expected. For instance, what are the duties of the Chief Mate?

My answer for a deadman's switch is also
correct. It's the accepted use of the term.

We're talking ships here, your answer was/is wrong.

If the captain doesn't stand a watch then he's
not doing his job. A watch doen't have to be
one continuous length of time. Any time the
captain is involved and giving orders he's on
watch. Only when he's sleeping or otherwise
indisposed is he not on watch.

LOL You keep trying anyway, but again, it doesn't cut it. The above is also
wrong.
Watches on ships are normally 4 hours, on the bridge. The Master stands none of
these (unless he's bored or wants to monitor a new Mate).
A Master is ON CALL, 24/7 and is on watch the whole time, awake or asleep, but,
that is not what we were asking, and as expected, you blew it.

You're just upset because I've never even
been on the bridge of a big ship and I
managed to get most of your questions
right.

LOL I'm not upset .... I'm smiling, cause most of the questions I asked were
simple and basic and easily quessed, if someone had any shipboard time .....
once again ....you flunked ..... I really expected you to do better.

Give me a day or two training and I could
easily run a big ship successfully.

G Would probably take you that long to find the bridge.

Besides
that, *I* would slow down to safe speed and
give sailboats and other vessels that sounded
one prolonged/two short blasts their rightful
stand-on status in restricted visibility.

EG No you wouldn't.


Shen

Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"
"Shen44" wrote in message ...

If you had any experience or knowledge of a ship, you'd know this to be
incorrect. Mates on a ship, are specific as to duties and experience level to
be expected. For instance, what are the duties of the Chief Mate?


OK, turnabout is fair play so I'll play your game by asking you if
you're asking about the duties of a Chief Mate Class 1 or a
Chief Mate Class 2.


S.Simon

Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 09/03/2003 10:12 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


Subject: Radar and Basic Nav.
From: "Simple Simon"
"Shen44" wrote in message
...

If you had any experience or knowledge of a ship, you'd know this to be
incorrect. Mates on a ship, are specific as to duties and experience level
to
be expected. For instance, what are the duties of the Chief Mate?


OK, turnabout is fair play so I'll play your game by asking you if
you're asking about the duties of a Chief Mate Class 1 or a
Chief Mate Class 2.


S.Simon


LOL In other words you don't know the answer.
As to your question - neither.
I'm asking about ships, that sail upon oceans (i.e. what we've been discussing)
so that means a Mate, who holds a license which says:
Chief Mate of Steam and Motor Vessels of Any Gross Tons Upon Oceans ..... or
higher.

Shen