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![]() That's easy - here's a more complete answer than the other one I just gave you. Beam width is important in bearing resolution. All targets are widened by the effective horizontal beam width. If the beam width is 4 degrees, two targets that are one mile off will appear as one if they are closer together than 370 feet. At two miles the targets must be separated by 740 feet, at 24 miles a six degree beam width would merge objects that were almost 1.68 miles apart. This can make interpretation of the display difficult. Suppose you are trying to find a harbor mouth that is 370 feet wide. Radar won't pick it up until you get closer than a mile. Get it? S.Simon - a Captain who's a navigational phenom. "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ... So perhaps you or Neal can explain to everyone how the horizontal beam width affect the image. -jeff Capt. Mooron wrote: Most people I've seen either find a radar image intuitively correct to what they see around them ... or they don't. I knew immediately what I was looking at on the first radar image I saw. I can interpolate between radar, air photo and chart in an instant. I mentally compensate for differences in scale and orientation. Maybe I'm one of the lucky few... but I assumed everyone had this ability to some extent. CM "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... But radar is different from a paper chart because a paper chart does not foreshorten the view while radar does. Radar is really no different than a looking at something with eyes that use radio waves instead of light waves Our eyes use light and when we see a hundred yards of water at a distance of a quarter mile this hundred yards of water looks a helluva lot shorter than the same hundred yards right off our bow. Radar 'sees' thing the same way so one must extrapolate this information mentally in order to match it with a chart of the same area. It would be much the same as equating a gnomic projection with a Mercator projection but backwards if looking north on a Mercator. See what I mean? But the point is the majority of people can't even imagine such differences let alone work with them. This is what I mean by spatial comprehension. S.Simon - a sailboat Captain who's superior to any and all motorboat Captains "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Generally I find that women are at a loss when it comes to spatial comprehension. A man will usually automatically know the extended limits of an automobile when he sits in one. Women depend on mirrors and the visual depth of field at a specific spot to determine this. This is one of the reasons why women generally do not back into a parking space... while men prefer to. I say this is a general trait.... I know of women who are very good with spatial interpretation. If you look at the radar screen as a chart... it is easier to resolve the image and blend it to the area around you. Just keep in mind that often you only view the proximal reflected surface of any object. The "chart" on a radar screen is always oriented to the line of the vessel and bearing is always relative unless a fluxgate compass or GPS input is available. In a day or two I could easily have you running with a full comprehension of radar... at least as well as anyone else. Tuning radar is no problem.... CM "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... I've met many people who cannot extrapolate a land map of an area they are familiar with much less be able to relate to a nautical chart. If tests were given for this type of relating a graphical representation to geography I bet you'd be apalled at the numbers of folks who simply can't relate. Bobsprit is probably one of these chart challenged people. Simple things like basic orientation of the map while they look at it leaves them at a loss. A radar display is even more of an alien representation that a paper chart. Is the display 'heads up' or "oriented north" for instance is more than many people can cope with. Spatial relationships and representative distances with respect to scale are concepts many simply cannot fathom. I've only used radar a couple of times and found it did not convey much information at all other than skewed and foreshortened spatial relationships that were difficult to stretch out into geographical reality in my mind - a mind which excels at spatiality. I can see where practice, practice, practice and a mind that can understand is vital for a radar operator. This is yet another reason I think there should be a navigator at the helm of large ships. Let the navigator navigator - let the Captain steer according to input from the navigator. S.Simon - a Captain who knows how things work "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Shen44" wrote in message Radar is an aid to navigation, that is well learned if one has one, but not as important to learn for beginners, as some of the other basics, such as compass, chart work, etc.. Contrary to what some may think, radar is not something you can just turn on, for the first time, and be instantly familiar and competent with it's usage. I have seen any number of people using it on a fairly regular basis, who have problems tuning (and sometimes detuning) for best picture, then equating that picture to their charts or vessel traffic around them. Without knowing the basics of relative motion and how to plot targets, you can easily get yourself into as much trouble as you can avoid. Maybe these people are the same ones with spatial difficulties. I haven't seen anyone that has had a problem understanding a radar image... tuning radar is a little more complicated ... but not out of the realm of the newbie. While I concur that Basic Navigation is primary obstacle to overcome... a radar in use to confirm your plots and verify relative bearings is perfectly fine. The days of high tech being utilized only on large ships is over. Navigational instrumentation is now available to the layman and the general population's ability to embrace technology has increased dramatically. CM |
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