We went over the ways in which my sails differed from the stock
sails delivered on an IP, a dedicated cruising boat. Details in a cruising
sail matter also, and you gotta make sure you get what you want.

Skitch, most sailmakers will come down to a boat if the owner wants, but the
"norm" is computer template sails for most. Sailing is dominated by Catalinas,
hunters and other popular boats that rarely get a visit from a loft. Ask Mark
at Doyle or Bill and UK how many boats he visits. They couldn't make money
unless they had a giant cut-and-ship business.

RB

Don't forget, Ozzy...Billy Jane sails a serious racing machine...the C&C 27.

RB

Maybe his sailmaker build big baggy sails so Billy can reach all those
downwind ports quickly.

I could save Billy Jane a small fortune on sails, but then what would he do
with them?

RB

What do you do with your sails other than flap the wind-up
jib to death while motoring while you keep the sail cover on
the mainsail like you keep the cover on your compass.
Can't wear out that mainsail by using it now can we?

Bwahahahahaha!

S.Simon - a Captain who takes sailing seriously


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Don't forget, Ozzy...Billy Jane sails a serious racing machine...the C&C 27.

RB

Maybe his sailmaker build big baggy sails so Billy can reach all those
downwind ports quickly.

I could save Billy Jane a small fortune on sails, but then what would he do
with them?

RB

What do you do with your sails other than flap the wind-up

Don't be mad because I'm running the group again, Neal!
You're just not being creative enough. Take a deep breath and try again.

RB

Trying to change the subject again because
you're ashamed of your neophyte sailing status?

S.Simon - a Captain who knows a fraud when he sees one


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
What do you do with your sails other than flap the wind-up

Don't be mad because I'm running the group again, Neal!
You're just not being creative enough. Take a deep breath and try again.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| We went over the ways in which my sails differed from the stock
| sails delivered on an IP, a dedicated cruising boat. Details in a
cruising
| sail matter also, and you gotta make sure you get what you want.
|
| Skitch, most sailmakers will come down to a boat if the owner wants, but
the
| "norm" is computer template sails for most. Sailing is dominated by
Catalinas,
| hunters and other popular boats that rarely get a visit from a loft. Ask
Mark
| at Doyle or Bill and UK how many boats he visits. They couldn't make money
| unless they had a giant cut-and-ship business.

Now ain't that odd. I ordered an off the shelf with 3 reef points. They said
they had the template and I confirmed the measurements via fax. I sent the
sail back 3 times. The loft finally flew a rep up from Vancouver to
Yellowknife and found out their measurements were not correct. I did feel
sorry for the guy and arranged for him to meet some other people who were
considering buying new sails. He measured and discussed their specifics with
them and returned with orders for a few other sails. Mine arrived again and
fit. They decided to send a rep up every year after that.

CM

Now ain't that odd. I ordered an off the shelf with 3 reef points. They said
they had the template and I confirmed the measurements via fax. I sent the
sail back 3 times.

Thanks for making my point, mooron. If I had a boat like yours I'd INSIST on a
visit from a loft. It's not a well known rig. You see, that's why I mentioned
the Catalina and Hunters.
You were exceedingly dumb to try to mail order sails for your boat.

Must you learn everything through failure, Mooron?

RB

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:


Now ain't that odd. I ordered an off the shelf with 3 reef points. They said
they had the template and I confirmed the measurements via fax. I sent the
sail back 3 times. The loft finally flew a rep up from Vancouver to
Yellowknife and found out their measurements were not correct.

Didn't you confirm the measurements by fax? What was screwed up?

The sail dimensions for the Hunter 19 are about 6 inches too short on the foot
and 10 inches too short on the luff, so as to make them cheaper. When I ordered
a set of custom sails, I measured the rig and sent the a very complete diagram
to the sailmaker.

Personally, I think that "cheap" is not a benefit when ordering new sails. You
want good sails, you gotta pay for 'em. Otherwise go down to the secondhand bin
and pick through the cast-offs... they are almost free. And almost worth it.



I did feel
sorry for the guy and arranged for him to meet some other people who were
considering buying new sails. He measured and discussed their specifics with
them and returned with orders for a few other sails. Mine arrived again and
fit. They decided to send a rep up every year after that.

Many sailmakers will visit out-of-the-way sailing clubs in person to drum up
business and do a little coaching. Apparently your club is a little too
out-of-the-way!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message

| Didn't you confirm the measurements by fax? What was screwed up?

Apparently they thought I had screwed up.... they ignored the measurements
I sent.



| Many sailmakers will visit out-of-the-way sailing clubs in person to drum
up
| business and do a little coaching. Apparently your club is a little too
| out-of-the-way!

Well I had done business with them for an overhaul and restitching for 2
seasons prior.... They didn't realize there was over 60 boats in
Yellowknife and no loft. I heard that both UK & North make regular trips up
there now.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:


Apparently they thought I had screwed up.... they ignored the measurements
I sent.

heh heh don't ya hate it when other people think *you're* the one making the
mistake?

DSK