I was referring to mars...

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

You're stupid! Do you know what the surface temperature on
Venus is? It's hot enough to melt lead - almost 500 degrees C.
It would take a million years to cool the planet down enough
to make it liveable even if something could be done with the
atmosphere.

Terraforming is out of the question unless we had the technology
to move the planet out of orbit to the area of the asteroid belt
to let it cool down for several thousand years.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Not sure about that or else.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:


Venus is covered with clouds.

Venus could be terraformed and an atmosphere could be created from the one she already has. Albeit, we don't have the

technology to pull it off yet. But we will. Much better than living in plasto-enviro units on Mars where even if there is
water under the surface, it would not be sufficient to create a breathable atmosphere.

I agree, Mars can be terraformed while Venus is hopeless.

Katy is the one who is stupid saying Venus is hot because of
volcanism. Bwahahahhahahahahahahh!. Hey Katyduncesails,
sure you ain't a blonde? Let me check those pubes sometime
please. Venus is hot because of the run away greenhouse
effect combined with the fact the planet is close enough to
the sun to make it too hot for human habitation even if there
were not a run away greenhouse effect.

Stick to cooking and sewing, Kooky one, because you're
clearly too uninformed to discuss intellectual and scientific
matters.

S.Simon


"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
I was referring to mars...

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:

You're stupid! Do you know what the surface temperature on
Venus is? It's hot enough to melt lead - almost 500 degrees C.
It would take a million years to cool the planet down enough
to make it liveable even if something could be done with the
atmosphere.

Terraforming is out of the question unless we had the technology
to move the planet out of orbit to the area of the asteroid belt
to let it cool down for several thousand years.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

Not sure about that or else.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:


Venus is covered with clouds.

Venus could be terraformed and an atmosphere could be created from the one she already has. Albeit, we don't have the

technology to pull it off yet. But we will. Much better than living in plasto-enviro units on Mars where even if there is
water under the surface, it would not be sufficient to create a breathable atmosphere.

Neal, you sorry piece of pig butt, what do you think casues the green =
house effect? Emmissions....from volcanoes....that spew chemicals into =
the atmosphere creating greenhouse effeect....what a dope...stick to =
interior decorating....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Wrong, sweetie! Venus is hot not because of volcanoes but
because it's closer to the sun and has suffered runaway
greenhouse effect.

http://starryskies.com/solar_system/..._venus_hot.htm
says:

"Spacecraft that have reached the surface have found temperatures
of 470C (878F). These harsh conditions are mostly due to Venus
being 30% closer to the Sun. Venus receives twice as much solar
heating however. This apparently never allowed water to condense
and therefore to form oceans. Without oceans there was no effective
way to absorb carbon dioxide."

Give it up Katy. You're cute as hell but a dummy when it comes
to scientific stuff.

S.Simon


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Neal, you sorry piece of pig butt, what do you think casues the green house effect? Emmissions....from volcanoes....that spew
chemicals into the atmosphere creating greenhouse effeect....what a dope...stick to interior decorating....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

http://starryskies.com/solar_system/...m_on_venus.htm
-- http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...ork/venus.html
http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/.../Overview.htm=
l

To name but a few....do a Google search....and give it up, Neal....You =
will never win....
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

- actually, you're wrong. "runaway greenhouse" is caused by CO2 being
released from rocks: to quote
http://www.astronomynotes.com/solarsys/s9.htm

Runaway Greenhouse
Venus was originally cooler than what it is now and it had a greater
abundance of water several billion years ago. Also, most of its carbon
dioxide was locked up in the rocks. Through a process called a runaway
greenhouse, Venus heated up to its present blistering hot level.
Because Venus was slightly closer to the Sun than the Earth, its water
never liquified and remained in the atmosphere to start the greenhouse
heating. As Venus heated up, some of the carbon dioxide in the rocks
was ``baked out.'' The increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide enhanced
the greenhouse heating. That baked more carbon dioxide out of the
rocks (as well as any water) and a runaway feedback loop process
occurred. This feedback loop occurred several billion years ago so
Venus has been very hot for several billion years. The water Venus
originally had is now gone because of a process called dissociation.



"katysails" wrote in message ...
Neal, you sorry piece of pig butt, what do you think casues the green
house effect? Emmissions....from volcanoes....that spew chemicals into
the atmosphere creating greenhouse effeect....what a dope...stick to
interior decorating....