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he already posted that he spent four hours yesterday loading food.

Nope. Went biking instead. I'll be there in a few hours.

RB

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he already posted that he spent four hours yesterday loading food.


wrote in message
...
On 21 Aug 2003 11:26:43 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Hey, Binary Bill....

Doing a few things to get the boat set tonight.

Yes, it could easily take you an extra day to untie all 758 docklines.

Bwaaak! Bwaaak! Bwaaak!

BB

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Trans; he's putting a VHF in his lesbo car.

"Bobsprit" wrote
Can you please post where I said we'd be at the Thimbles by noon?
I said you'd be able to make radio contact by noon.
Duh!

Capt RB

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I expect we'll be approaching the Thimble Islands Mid-Saturday. How's
that?"

We'll be "approaching" the Thimble Island's tomorrow, genius!
Yes, my radio can make 20-30 miles on the sound and has done so before.
Channel 9.

RB

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Uh oh, its getting softer and softer all the time. Now it seems he only
appears to intend to sail within hailing distance of his "illegally" high
powered VHF.

It's so powerful it will also allow us to take pictures of the boat at the
Islands!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote
Sat, Sun, Mon??? Sailing all three days...short sails with mostly female
crew.

RB


"SkitchNYC" wrote

Uh oh, its getting softer and softer all the time. Now it seems he only
appears to intend to sail within hailing distance of his "illegally" high
powered VHF. Could just get an SSB and call BB from the slip.

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Don't you plan and route for forecast conditions? Although flexibility is a
good option... you really should have a benchmark to deviate from. It seems
like your only plans are dedicated to provisions and pastimes. This is
really the mark of a rank newbie in regards to sailing.

I think your estimate of 10 - 15 miles on Friday is a stretch. Your estimate
of the final destination at 45 miles the following day is doable but the
ETA would place you there late in the day. Why not plan for a 10 hour sail
at an average of 5 knots for Saturday and drop your departure time to 0500
hrs. That would give you a 2 hour motor with fresh weather data to plan
where you want to be when the day time breeze kicks in.... and place you at
your destination at 1500hrs.

I'd suggest a night sail to put you at final destination the following
morning.... but that's way beyond your skill level at the moment. I take it
you have a return date of Monday... considering your current estimate of
sailing 2 days to go 50 miles?

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Best you'll do is 7-8 hours for that trip Bob..... best ETA I can
forecast
| for you is 1700 hrs.
|
| We'll see. We may leave earlier on Saturday or take things further
tomorrow.
| Playing it as we go, but we'll get there.
| I'll be on channel 9 for Billy-Jane.
|
| RB

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So in effect you are now stating that you cannot make the destination and
your previous claim of a mid-day arrival was in error? Really Bob... this is
becoming very lame. You've milked the girls on my boat thing till the teats
are dry. I can't see any improvement in your skill levels to match the
larger vessel selection. It's a 10 hour trip each way and you have failed to
allow sufficient time to make the passage both ways within the time frame
you claimed. This is not only idiotic in it's inception but clearly displays
your failings in comprehension of the basics of navigation and seamanship.

I would recommend a course in basic keel boat and coastal navigation before
you attempt to challenge someone like Binary Bill to any competition
involving sailing. This is proving to be a fiasco on your part..... with
your mouth writing checks your boat, skills and schedule can't cash.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I expect we'll be approaching the Thimble Islands Mid-Saturday. How's
| that?"
|
| We'll be "approaching" the Thimble Island's tomorrow, genius!
| Yes, my radio can make 20-30 miles on the sound and has done so before.
| Channel 9.
|
| RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Uh oh, its getting softer and softer all the time. Now it seems he only
appears to intend to sail within hailing distance of his "illegally" high
powered VHF.

It's so powerful it will also allow us to take pictures of the boat at the
Islands!

Your credibility dictates that radio contact is not enough, nor are pictures.
Only confirmation by Bill of an Alien sighting will suffice at this point, and
that needs backup of photographic evidence of the meeting to allay any concerns
that you will have Sudzy bribe him. But first, get to the route planning that
Mooron is leading you by the nose to.

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When one motors everywhere, one can set a more rigid schedule.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Don't you plan and route for forecast conditions? Although flexibility is
a
good option... you really should have a benchmark to deviate from. It
seems
like your only plans are dedicated to provisions and pastimes. This is
really the mark of a rank newbie in regards to sailing.

I think your estimate of 10 - 15 miles on Friday is a stretch. Your
estimate
of the final destination at 45 miles the following day is doable but the
ETA would place you there late in the day. Why not plan for a 10 hour
sail
at an average of 5 knots for Saturday and drop your departure time to 0500
hrs. That would give you a 2 hour motor with fresh weather data to plan
where you want to be when the day time breeze kicks in.... and place you
at
your destination at 1500hrs.

I'd suggest a night sail to put you at final destination the following
morning.... but that's way beyond your skill level at the moment. I take
it
you have a return date of Monday... considering your current estimate of
sailing 2 days to go 50 miles?

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Best you'll do is 7-8 hours for that trip Bob..... best ETA I can
forecast
| for you is 1700 hrs.
|
| We'll see. We may leave earlier on Saturday or take things further
tomorrow.
| Playing it as we go, but we'll get there.
| I'll be on channel 9 for Billy-Jane.
|
| RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

So in effect you are now stating that you cannot make the destination and
your previous claim of a mid-day arrival was in error?

Never said I'd be there by midday. Only said I'd be reachable on the radio by
mid day which I maintain.
Channel 9. Bill will either show or he won't. On monday there will be proof I
was there.

RB

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It seems
like your only plans are dedicated to provisions and pastimes.

We'll be there, Mooron. It's not far, fer cripes sake. No wind, we'll power.
Too much wind, we'll reef. T-Storm, we'll ride it out.
Jeepers! Channel 9.

RB

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It won't happen because it can't happen.... that's a given with his
existing plan.

We won't make Thimble Islands by Saturday?
Okay.

RB

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I can't see your supposition that you would be anywhere near your proposed
destination until Saturday evening with your current plan. Approach and
contact does not constitute arrival by any stretch of the imagination. How
do you propose obtaining photos and still allowing yourself adequate time to
undertake a return trip if you proceed to the Thimbles and anchor? If I
undertook to plan passage by your yard stick... I could claim landfall in
Mahone Bay by making VHF contact with the dock master from East Ironbound
Island, 15 miles short of the destination and call it done.

If Bill shows or not isn't relevant.... what is at question here is that
your claims are failing to meet logistical reality. I can understand why
Binary Bill is have a hearty guffaw at your expense. I would advise you
abandon your current regime of failure based strategies. Passage plan for
safety and sufficient time to enjoy your destination. Consistent failures
will eventually and detrimentally effect your self confidence in regards to
sailing.

You previously claimed that your wife was the navigator on your vessel...
are you relying on her planning to substantiate your claims? Please inform
her that Capt. Mooron urges her to reassess her current plan and factor in
sufficient time to undertake the trip.

It's unfortunate that you have a well equipped vessel that under proper
command would easily negotiate even a moonless evening landfall or anchorage
in complete safety and yet you seem unable to utilize your vessel to it's
obvious potential. This is a problem that will haunt you through successive
vessels. No matter how fine the ship or how fantastic the deal.... your
inability to utilize the boat to it's potential will negate any claim of a
superior vessel.

CM



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| So in effect you are now stating that you cannot make the destination and
| your previous claim of a mid-day arrival was in error?
|
| Never said I'd be there by midday. Only said I'd be reachable on the radio
by
| mid day which I maintain.
| Channel 9. Bill will either show or he won't. On monday there will be
proof I
| was there.
|
| RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

It seems
like your only plans are dedicated to provisions and pastimes.

We'll be there, Mooron. It's not far, fer cripes sake. No wind, we'll
power.
Too much wind, we'll reef. T-Storm, we'll ride it out.
Jeepers! Channel 9.

You don't have to say "Channel 9" to Mooron - he won't be in range, and
might not even be listening. Or is that a trendy new way to sign off your
postings? "Yeah! Channel 9! Groovy!"


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Bob... you are myopic in your assessment of my critique of your passage
planning. I've stated that your total routing will leave you insufficient
time to make the Thimble Islands destination for anything more than an
evening anchor. I doubt you will realize the destination because your return
leg will enforce an early departure for a full day of sailing to make the
one day passage that you allowed two days to achieve on the first leg. Can
you see why my assessment of your chances for success are so negative. I
forecast you will reassess and turn back before reaching the Thimbles solely
based on your current plans.

Your grasp has exceed your reach. Lower your expectations and achieve
success. I believe your destination is as probable as the chances of my ever
seeing an mpeg of you sailing on a reach with the helm free.... let alone an
engine hour meter.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| It won't happen because it can't happen.... that's a given with his
| existing plan.
|
| We won't make Thimble Islands by Saturday?
| Okay.
|
| RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote

We'll be there, Mooron. It's not far, fer cripes sake. No wind, we'll
power.
Too much wind, we'll power. T-Storm, we'll power. Nice wind, we'll power.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote

Never said I'd be there by midday.


''I expect we'll be approaching the Thimble Islands Mid-Saturday. How's
that?"

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
I believe your destination is as probable as the chances of my ever
seeing an mpeg of you sailing on a reach with the helm free.... let alone
an
engine hour meter.


not to mention the video of his donuts, or his ''trip to nowhere'' that he
bragged about and then chickened out.

SV

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

You don't have to say "Channel 9" to Mooron - he won't be in range, and
might not even be listening.

He won't be in range all day? He won't listen to his radio all day?
Oh.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

I've stated that your total routing will leave you insufficient
time to make the Thimble Islands destination for anything more than an
evening anchor.

At what point did you make the decision that we planned more than an evening
anchor?

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

''I expect we'll be approaching the Thimble Islands Mid-Saturday. How's
that?"

Yup...between 4-6 pm I expect.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Probably when you stated your ETA was midday on Saturday?

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| At what point did you make the decision that we planned more than an
evening
| anchor?
|
| RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Probably when you stated your ETA was midday on Saturday?

I thought you were a drinker. Midday is about 4-6 pm.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

you want some maple syrup with your waffle?

On Monday you'll need that syrup yourself!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

you want some maple syrup with your waffle?


Scotty

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
''I expect we'll be approaching the Thimble Islands Mid-Saturday. How's
that?"

Yup...between 4-6 pm I expect.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Where will I be Monday Bob?


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
you want some maple syrup with your waffle?

On Monday you'll need that syrup yourself!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Where will I be Monday Bob?

Now you're just being difficult. Go to a Computer Cafe and stop spoiling the
fun!

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Nah, I'm sure there'll be some cat**** in Detroit I can smell.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Where will I be Monday Bob?

Now you're just being difficult. Go to a Computer Cafe and stop spoiling
the
fun!

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

It's interesting that any of you feel the need to a "plan"
| when sailing short distances. The Thimble Islands is quite close. We
sailed
| further with Ghost. It's local.

What I find "interesting" is your assumption that no "plan" is required
when sailing to a schedule.... which is exactly what you are doing Bob.
Logistics that involve the terms "around", "about", "if" and "when" beg for
address as to their value. Please define your definition of "local" . I
doubt it requires provisioning and multi-day planning.

It seems you feel that we are overly concerned about your venture ... this
is not the case... you are sailing in protected waters with a sound vessel.
The issue I'm attempting to address with you is your expectations versus
reality. Can you provide the weather forecast, tide, distances, wind
conditions, estimated points of sail, expected conditions and time frames of
your "local" trip to the Thimbles in a coherent and informative manner so as
we may have the opportunity to review it properly? This is after all a
sailing news group and you did request that I concentrate on "On-Topic"
subject matter.... I'm requesting further clarification of your claims.

CM

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

What I find "interesting" is your assumption that no "plan" is required
when sailing to a schedule....

What schedule? We have until Monday to return. If we don't make it back Sunday
eve. no big deal.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

time frames of
your "local" trip to the Thimbles in a coherent and informative manner so as
we may have the opportunity to review it properly?

1st you say you're not overly concerned, then you ask for details. We leave
tomorrow at 3:00. We will sail as far and as long as we care to. That's our
"plan."

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

This is after all a
sailing news group and you did request that I concentrate on "On-Topic"
subject matter.... I'm requesting further clarification of your claims.

What claims? We haven't left yet??!!! Suggest you wait until after the weekend
to review pics of our local trip!

Capt RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The Thimble Islands is quite close. We sailed
further with Ghost. It's local.

Are the Thimbles only three miles from your marina?


Regards


Donal
--

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

From what I understood it's a 10 to 15 mile trip to his first hook then
another 40 to 45 miles to the Thimbles from there. In short it's a minimum
of 50 miles and a maximum of 60 miles. Take into consideration that the
distance over ground on a sailboat could well double those figures.....
anyone else but Bob would stand a chance. Try as he might ... the skill of
sail evades him due to his headlong rush for comfort and commodities.

A simple overnight passage both ways would allow him to meet his targeted
objective... but he lacks the ability to conduct his vessel after the sun
sets.

CM


"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| The Thimble Islands is quite close. We sailed
| further with Ghost. It's local.
|
| Are the Thimbles only three miles from your marina?
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Hey Guys,

Ease off you "PURISTS!" RB is on a trip with a destination within a time
frame. There is absolutely nothing at all wrong with motor sailings to
maintain voyaging speed. If he wants to shut down the "Bangger" for
peace and quite, that's the Skipper's choice. He isn't breaking any
rules either way.

Bon Voyage, Nutsy. May the winds be fair. Time schedule is yours, not
ours

AND: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in
:

From what I understood it's a 10 to 15 mile trip to his first hook
then another 40 to 45 miles to the Thimbles from there. In short it's
a minimum of 50 miles and a maximum of 60 miles. Take into
consideration that the distance over ground on a sailboat could well
double those figures..... anyone else but Bob would stand a chance.
Try as he might ... the skill of sail evades him due to his headlong
rush for comfort and commodities.

A simple overnight passage both ways would allow him to meet his
targeted objective... but he lacks the ability to conduct his vessel
after the sun sets.

I seee..

Bertei

CM


"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| The Thimble Islands is quite close. We sailed
| further with Ghost. It's local.
|
| Are the Thimbles only three miles from your marina?
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

| I seee..
|
| Bertei

Well maybe you could explain it to Bob for me... belay that.. you're on
every killfile from here to Copacabana. You are one useless pawn Bertie.
How am I supposed to work with this?

CM

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

Bon Voyage, Nutsy. May the winds be fair. Time schedule is yours, not
ours

Agreed...but Mooron appears quite worried. I'm appreciative of his conecrn, but
it's a short trip and we have no intention of setting foot ashore for three
days. We just want to sail as far as we can, swim and sail some more.
Weather should be nice after tomorrows heat. We stocked up the boat with fresh
fruit, bread and some fish. Dinghy is ready to go, though we probably won't use
it.

RB

Getting Ready, Bill!
 

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:01:30 -0300, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Capt. Mooron:

Even if he motors both ways...

You'd certainly know about motoring both ways, bisexual-boi.

--
PJR :-)
mhm34x8