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When destinations and time frames are involved ... most certainly.
Especially when you take advantage of your prerogative to boast about it. CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | Odd... you've stated repeatedly that your "plan" was to make Thimble Islands | by midday Saturday... that you would hail Bill from noon to 6 pm and that | you would be returning on Sunday? | | What is odd about this? Do you usually make "firm" plans when sailing? We | don't. | | RB |
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Capt. Mooron wrote: "....you have a sound vessel..." Indeed: "The CDs play relentlessly As round the dock he plies..." Flying Tadpole ------------------ The Internet Opera -- in 3rd slot worldwide on mp3.com's Broadway/musicals charts!!! In 6th slot chasing Luciano Pavarotti in the Opera charts!!! Totally clogging all genres in the Australia charts!!! |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote: So in effect you are now stating that you cannot make the destination and your previous claim of a mid-day arrival was in error? Really Bob... this is becoming very lame. You've milked the girls on my boat thing till the teats are dry. Dear Capt Mooron, If you wish to maintain your credibility in this unseemly exchange with Bobsprit, it is absolutely essential that you demonstrate how you verified that last statement. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote: As for humiliation or a beating... where the hell is the mpeg of your vessel on a reach with a free helm you promised Bob???? Where is the photo of the engine hour meter you promised Bob??? CM Don't forget the donuts for Scotty and me! -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
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Bon Voyage, Nutsy.
RB: Agreed...but . . . Just when he thought he was out, Thom draaaaggs him back in. |
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Yes! I like cream filled.
Scotty "Flying Tadpole" wrote Don't forget the donuts for Scotty and me! -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
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Not if it's Bobsprit's donut, I hope...
FT Scott Vernon wrote: Yes! I like cream filled. Scotty "Flying Tadpole" wrote Don't forget the donuts for Scotty and me! |
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Awww c'mon. It'll be dark and just radio conatct will be made ... from
his car. Cheers MC Capt. Mooron wrote: I can't see your supposition that you would be anywhere near your proposed destination until Saturday evening with your current plan. Approach and contact does not constitute arrival by any stretch of the imagination. How do you propose obtaining photos and still allowing yourself adequate time to undertake a return trip if you proceed to the Thimbles and anchor? If I undertook to plan passage by your yard stick... I could claim landfall in Mahone Bay by making VHF contact with the dock master from East Ironbound Island, 15 miles short of the destination and call it done. If Bill shows or not isn't relevant.... what is at question here is that your claims are failing to meet logistical reality. I can understand why Binary Bill is have a hearty guffaw at your expense. I would advise you abandon your current regime of failure based strategies. Passage plan for safety and sufficient time to enjoy your destination. Consistent failures will eventually and detrimentally effect your self confidence in regards to sailing. You previously claimed that your wife was the navigator on your vessel... are you relying on her planning to substantiate your claims? Please inform her that Capt. Mooron urges her to reassess her current plan and factor in sufficient time to undertake the trip. It's unfortunate that you have a well equipped vessel that under proper command would easily negotiate even a moonless evening landfall or anchorage in complete safety and yet you seem unable to utilize your vessel to it's obvious potential. This is a problem that will haunt you through successive vessels. No matter how fine the ship or how fantastic the deal.... your inability to utilize the boat to it's potential will negate any claim of a superior vessel. CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | So in effect you are now stating that you cannot make the destination and | your previous claim of a mid-day arrival was in error? | | Never said I'd be there by midday. Only said I'd be reachable on the radio by | mid day which I maintain. | Channel 9. Bill will either show or he won't. On monday there will be proof I | was there. | | RB |
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It's simple he doesn't know anything about DR or passage planning. then
again he's not the skipper. Cheers MC Capt. Mooron wrote: "Bobsprit" wrote in message It's interesting that any of you feel the need to a "plan" | when sailing short distances. The Thimble Islands is quite close. We sailed | further with Ghost. It's local. What I find "interesting" is your assumption that no "plan" is required when sailing to a schedule.... which is exactly what you are doing Bob. Logistics that involve the terms "around", "about", "if" and "when" beg for address as to their value. Please define your definition of "local" . I doubt it requires provisioning and multi-day planning. It seems you feel that we are overly concerned about your venture ... this is not the case... you are sailing in protected waters with a sound vessel. The issue I'm attempting to address with you is your expectations versus reality. Can you provide the weather forecast, tide, distances, wind conditions, estimated points of sail, expected conditions and time frames of your "local" trip to the Thimbles in a coherent and informative manner so as we may have the opportunity to review it properly? This is after all a sailing news group and you did request that I concentrate on "On-Topic" subject matter.... I'm requesting further clarification of your claims. CM |
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I've asked some fairly honest sailing oriented questions
regarding passage planning and navigation. About a 75 mile trip? Oh, okay. RB |
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all I have to say is that when someone claims the capability to
make a passage within a specified time frame and boasts about rubbing peoples noses in his success 75 miles, Mooron. Take a pill. "Success" is a pretty strong word. We could do the trip in well under a day if we chose to. RB |
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How would you deem that I could suffer "humiliation" from any aspect or
outcome of your trip? How could you administer a "beating" ??? Monday is a few days away. I'm afraid you have no choice but to wait. Capt RB |
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bob is right
finally an honest post from Cat****.
"Bobsprit" wrote Monday is a few days away. Capt RB |
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Don't be so defensive Bob... 75 miles in a 12 hour time frame is a real
push. You seem to be routing like a power boater. Average speed over distance as opposed to the total distance over ground due to wind and tacks. A 75 mile distance can easily add up to 100 miles distance sailed. Consider that 120 miles in a 24 hour period is considered good time when ocean sailing. Considering your "day" is 12 hours [ sunrise to sunset avg.]... There is no way you can make it in "well under a day". You'd make it in a day if you started very early and dropped hook very late. Where's the mpeg of a well tuned boat on a reach with a free helm Bob???? CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | all I have to say is that when someone claims the capability to | make a passage within a specified time frame and boasts about rubbing | peoples noses in his success | | 75 miles, Mooron. Take a pill. "Success" is a pretty strong word. We could do | the trip in well under a day if we chose to. | | RB |
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I can't see any humiliation or beating Bob..... I've completed a trip from
Halifax to Mahone Bay in one day.... that's aprox. 80 nautical miles I'm not questioning your trip to Halifax, Mooron. Perhaps you need to refocus. RB |
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I can't see any humiliation or beating Bob.
That's why it's going to be fun! RB |
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What I'm questioning is your claim of "beatings" and
"humiliation".... I can't see the context Bob. I am 100% confident that you're unable to solve this riddle. Rest assured it will be solved on Monday. Capt RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
What I'm questioning is your claim of "beatings" and "humiliation".... I can't see the context Bob. I am 100% confident that you're unable to solve this riddle. Rest assured it will be solved on Monday. It seems to me that Mooron's point is that you appear to be exhibitng a somewhat cavalier approach to your journey. Sweet, innocent, fresh-faced newbie that I am, I believe the that purpose of having a plan is that it's easier to tell when things aren't going to plan. For instance, when there's a substantial difference in predicted position and observed position, one can infer that something is amiss and can dfeal with it accordingly. Without a plan to refer to, recognising a potential problem might take that much longer, to the extent that one could be in serious danger before realising it. -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk |
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Oh... apologies... I didn't realize this was one of your running gags. Glad
I didn't spoil it for you.... Makes sense now as to why you were reluctant to discuss the details. I really should know better than to approach you with any topic regarding sailing. Excuse me while I remove the hook and make a note in my log. CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | What I'm questioning is your claim of "beatings" and | "humiliation".... I can't see the context Bob. | | I am 100% confident that you're unable to solve this riddle. Rest assured it | will be solved on Monday. | | Capt RB |
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Makes sense now as to why you were reluctant to discuss the details.
Our plan, carefully and safely made earlier this week will be devulged with pics come monday. RB |
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His claims and posting time don't add up.... he posted at 1430hrs. Anyone
preparing for an overnight trip with a 1500hr depature time would be aboard and securing stations by now. I wouldn't rely on the times and proposed schedule to be anything but an elaborate deception. It's just Bob being Bob..... deal with it. CM "Wally" wrote in message ... | "Bobsprit" wrote in message | | What I'm questioning is your claim of "beatings" and | "humiliation".... I can't see the context Bob. | | I am 100% confident that you're unable to solve this riddle. Rest assured | it | will be solved on Monday. | | It seems to me that Mooron's point is that you appear to be exhibitng a | somewhat cavalier approach to your journey. | | Sweet, innocent, fresh-faced newbie that I am, I believe the that purpose of | having a plan is that it's easier to tell when things aren't going to plan. | For instance, when there's a substantial difference in predicted position | and observed position, one can infer that something is amiss and can dfeal | with it accordingly. Without a plan to refer to, recognising a potential | problem might take that much longer, to the extent that one could be in | serious danger before realising it. | | | -- | Wally | I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! | www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk | | | |
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.... you had the boat delivered?.... big deal Bob!... it's a charter boat.
CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | Makes sense now as to why you were reluctant to discuss the details. | | Our plan, carefully and safely made earlier this week will be devulged with | pics come monday. | | RB |
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Hey Nutsy,
Your staying over in Cold Spring Harbor, Many ,many years ago there was a very productive clam bank, just North of the tanks. I suppose it has been dug out but it did provide many Little Necks on the half shell for me when I was a boy. Those where the days when my sailing vessel was a 12 ft canoe with a Lateen rig |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:LYs1b.60386
His claims and posting time don't add up.... he posted at 1430hrs. Anyone preparing for an overnight trip with a 1500hr depature time would be aboard and securing stations by now. I took the 1500hr to be when he leaves his house. I don't know how far he is from the boat, but I think he claimed that it was already provisioned. So, maybe departing from the slip at 1600-1700? I wouldn't rely on the times and proposed schedule to be anything but an elaborate deception. ... Quite. The tour boat hypothesis (or competent crew delivery of Alien) is starting to look ever more likely. -- Wally I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty! www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... His claims and posting time don't add up.... he posted at 1430hrs. I cannot see anything from Bob after 14:03. Anyone preparing for an overnight trip with a 1500hr depature time would be aboard and securing stations by now. Agreed! I wouldn't rely on the times and proposed schedule to be anything but an elaborate deception. It's just Bob being Bob..... deal with it. We can be fairly certain that Bob isn't going to sail 50 miles from his marina. However, he seems very confident that he will contact BB on the VHF. I wonder if he knows somebody who works for the CG?? That could explain his confidence in the power of the radio!! I don't believe that Alien is available for charter. Charter boats are either fairly new, or fairly special! A 1980 C&C 32 is neither. It *is* possible that it is being used for sailing courses, but Bob wouldn't be aboard for a course that involved a 50 mile trip from his marina. I am looking forward to the wriggling that will follow Monday's explanation! Regards Donal -- |
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so you don't believe he's sailing anywhere either.
Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote ... It's just Bob being Bob..... deal with it. CM |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I can't see any humiliation or beating Bob..... I've completed a trip from Halifax to Mahone Bay in one day.... that's aprox. 80 nautical miles. Departure at 0600hrs with a 15 kt breeze [Norwester] and picked up a mooring at Mahone Bay at 2250hrs. Trip log read 102 nautical miles. Engine hour log confirmed 21 minutes run time.[ negotiating departure from the Northwest Arm in flat calm to Halifax Harbour including engine warm up time.] S'funny .... how the memory plays tricks on you! Your post reminded me of a 92 mile trip from Portsmouth to LeHavre. Before typing this answer, I thought that I would check the log book(so that I could be 100% certain of my facts). It is odd how our memory can be defective! Memory: There was a two hour period where we averaged over 8 kts! Log: There was a two hour period where we averaged 7.4 kts (through the water) Memory: The engine was on for the first 15 minutes, and also for the last hour. Log: The engine went off after 15 minutes, but it came on again for the last 7.5 hours!!!!! We set off at 07:00 hrs and had 23 kts wind on the beam for a few hours. It started at 18 kts, and built up to 28 kts, and then it started to die. By 13:30 the log shows that the wind had dropped to 8 kts. The 16:30 entry records "3-5 kts variable". Recently, somebody said that yachts spemd 85% of their time under engine. Maybe it's true. Regards Donal -- |
Scott is right
"Scott Vernon" wrote in news:bi4v8e$5b0kq$1@ID-
154502.news.uni-berlin.de: Finally an honest post from Scott I've taken a shot too many to the head "Bobsprit" wrote Monday is a few days away. Capt RB |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:16:40 -0300, a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Capt. Mooron: you're on every killfile from here to Copacabana. That's meant to be an *insult*??? -- PJR:-) American way Threatened by us Drag a few creeps Away in a bus - Frank Zappa, predicting the Dubya years |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:28:34 +0000 (UTC), a team of surgeons from
alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip: "Scott Vernon" wrote in news:bi4v8e$5b0kq$1@ID- 154502.news.uni-berlin.de: Finally an honest post from Scott I've taken a shot too many to the head "Bobsprit" wrote Monday is a few days away. Capt RB He can no longer deny it. -- PJR:-) American way Threatened by us Drag a few creeps Away in a bus - Frank Zappa, predicting the Dubya years |
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On 23 Aug 2003 22:08:19 GMT, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa
removed the following benign growth from Bertie the Bunyip: Peter J Ross wrote in : On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:16:40 -0300, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Capt. Mooron: you're on every killfile from here to Copacabana. That's meant to be an *insult*??? Apparently. They're more than a little slow, aren't they? I was #1 on the soc.men official killfile list. Did it stop me posting? What do you think? -- PJR:-) American way Threatened by us Drag a few creeps Away in a bus - Frank Zappa, predicting the Dubya years |
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No... why the hell are you so damn Negative ... cheer up!
CM "Peter J Ross" wrote in message ... | On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:16:40 -0300, a team of surgeons from | alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Capt. Mooron: | | you're on | every killfile from here to Copacabana. | | That's meant to be an *insult*??? | -- | PJR:-) | American way | Threatened by us | Drag a few creeps | Away in a bus | - Frank Zappa, predicting the Dubya years |
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Cripes you girls have thin skins dontcha....
CM "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... | Peter J Ross wrote in | : | | On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:16:40 -0300, a team of surgeons from | alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Capt. Mooron: | | you're on | every killfile from here to Copacabana. | | That's meant to be an *insult*??? | | Apparently. | | They're more than a little slow, aren't they? | | | Bertie |
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leaving in 1/2 hour, Mom.
Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... As always You're supposed to be in Detroit... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Finally a bottom post in ASA.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:04:35 GMT, a team of surgeons from alt.sailing.asa removed the following benign growth from Lady Pilot: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message . .. "Scott Vernon" wrote in news:bi4v8e$5b0kq$1@ID- 154502.news.uni-berlin.de: Finally an honest post from Scott I've taken a shot too many to the head "Bobsprit" wrote Monday is a few days away. Capt RB Finally a top post from Bertie. LP -- PJR :-) mhm34x8 Alcatroll Labs Inc. (Executive Vice-President) |
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"The Captains Master" wrote in message | Hmm guess I was wrong. Wow... a ray of light!! CM |
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"The Captains Master" wrote in message | You pulled your finger out of your nose? It seems the only think pulled was your head from Bob's ass.... Ya still smell like **** though.... ;-) CM |
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