You got a wing keel on that sucker, Thom. I would think your waters are deep
enough to take a deep keel. Have you ever run aground with it?

Skitch,

I have to admit I hit a Rock on the Sea Wall 20 minutes after I took
delivery. Coming back to my Slip

If you look at that keel, it really isn't a shallow draft keel. It is 5
ft down from the water line. It keeps that cut away bottom in the water
better. I can climb up wind with the best of them, also.

Ole Thom

In the mud bottom of the Chesapeake those who have run aground once with a wing
keel tend to be very leery of repeating it. That wing keel seems to do a fair
imitation of a Bruce anchor - can have a devil of a time getting free. YMMV

JJ

On 13 Aug 2003 00:49:10 GMT, (SkitchNYC) wrote:

You got a wing keel on that sucker, Thom. I would think your waters are deep
enough to take a deep keel. Have you ever run aground with it?

James Johnson
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JJ,

Don't think I'm not aware of it. We have our share of mud bottoms here
and a lot tougher Tide Runs.

That wing keel makes me watch the charts and Depth Meter.

Ole Thom

Wing keels are just a silly gimmick that started after
one of the dumb America's Cup boats installed one.

A wing keel on a motor sailer is about as useless as
teats on a boar hog.

S.Simon


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
JJ,

Don't think I'm not aware of it. We have our share of mud bottoms here
and a lot tougher Tide Runs.

That wing keel makes me watch the charts and Depth Meter.

Ole Thom

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:54:04 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote this crap:

Wing keels are just a silly gimmick that started after
one of the dumb America's Cup boats installed one.

That boat won the America's Cup, dumbass.

A wing keel on a motor sailer is about as useless as
teats on a boar hog.

More like as useless as brains on Simple Simon.
Any device that makes you faster is worth considering, unless you want
to sail around like you were dragging an anchor.




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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:58:31 -0700 (PDT), (Thom Stewart)
wrote:

Neal,

You're right about grounding. One of my worries. There is another, I
hesitate to mention, but I will. When your keel contacts a rock it is
more than likely only a glancing blow. To a wing keeler its a full
fledge collision.

That was why the keel was altered and it was done by the factory at
their suggestion and their expertise. They changed the modified swept
back keel to the standard keel

That sounds like a good thing to do, and kudos to the yard for suggesting it. I
have a centerboard on both of my boats, when it touches bottom I raise it a
little an head for deeper water. That technique would not be a good idea if the
bottom tended to be rocky but I am spoiled be the soft mud pretty much
everywhere in the Chesapeake.

JJ

The wetted area is increased but I truly wonder about the drag. That
wing really stabilizes trim without rudder drag. Even my female crew
would look at the master spoke and trim sail to neutral with no trouble

You're right about trade off but overall I love my wing

Ole Thom

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