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Bertie the Bunyip October 6th 03 12:33 AM

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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie


true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Ralph Nesbitt October 6th 03 05:29 AM

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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie


true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type



Michael Williamson October 6th 03 06:23 AM

Greater lift for aircraft
 
Ralph Nesbitt wrote:

Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!


Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.


Many aircraft have gear doors that open for retraction/extension,
but are closed when the gear is locked in place, either up or down.
In those aircraft, drag will be higher during the extension or
retraction sequence, as an extra door is open and hanging in the
breeze.

Mike


Bertie the Bunyip October 6th 03 07:09 AM

Greater lift for aircraft
 
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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt


Well, I ws thinking more of ther gear doors opeing and closing during the
sequence.


Bertie

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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt


Well, I ws thinking more of ther gear doors opeing and closing during the
sequence.


Bertie


which in Tarverworld would mean that the transitioning gear doors,
creating drag, would therefore be acting like a spolier and seeing
that a spolier is a flap will make the wing thicker therfore creating
lift.

ergo a gear door is a lift device !

Bertie the Bunyip October 7th 03 12:34 AM

Greater lift for aircraft
 
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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel
should lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part
of the wheel is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that
would increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible,
whereas the drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the
event of an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater
drag during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt


Well, I ws thinking more of ther gear doors opeing and closing during
the sequence.


Bertie


which in Tarverworld would mean that the transitioning gear doors,
creating drag, would therefore be acting like a spolier and seeing
that a spolier is a flap will make the wing thicker therfore creating
lift.

ergo a gear door is a lift device !


Snort!

Bertie


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