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"JaxAshby" wrote in
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Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating from
takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.


Betcha old Bertie has forgotten more about airplanes than you'll ever know,
fjuckwit.

Bertei

Greater lift for aircraft
 

"JaxAshby" wrote in
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Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating from
takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.

Jax the Bunyip biter.


Oh Jaxholio, while you're here, settle an argument.

Who sent you running like the little girl you are, me, or the lusers in the
froup?

BTW, got any more pics of yourself? I lurved the ones you posted before!

Bertie

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Wassa matta Berts?

I betcha neva lurned the Magnus effect so ya culd neva furgit it in the
furst place. In fact, yur a trade skool pilot dimwit!

Bite me bunyip!

Jax the one who barrel rolls the bunwipe

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"JaxAshby" wrote in
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Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating from
takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.

Jax the Bunyip biter.


Oh Jaxholio, while you're here, settle an argument.

Who sent you running like the little girl you are, me, or the lusers in
the
froup?

BTW, got any more pics of yourself? I lurved the ones you posted before!

Bertie

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And yet you seem unable to answer his qeustion????


Regards

Donal
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Flying Tadpole wrote in
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JaxAshby wrote:

Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating from
takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.

Jax the Bunyip biter.

Three sentences? All more or less coherent? Clearly a forged
identity.

could be.

but the cluelessness certainly reeks of Jax

Bertie

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"Donal" wrote in
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And yet you seem unable to answer his qeustion????

What question?

He made a statement which is almost correct, though limited in scope and
insignificant to boot.

Bertie


Regards

Donal
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JaxAshby wrote:

Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating
from takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus
effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.

Jax the Bunyip biter.

Three sentences? All more or less coherent? Clearly a forged
identity.

could be.

but the cluelessness certainly reeks of Jax

Bertie

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Greater lift for aircraft
 

That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should lower the
amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel is going in the
direction of the air.


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"JaxAshby" wrote in
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Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating from
takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.


Betcha old Bertie has forgotten more about airplanes than you'll ever
know,
fjuckwit.

Bertei

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"mbrookesn231" wrote in
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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should lower the
amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel is going in the
direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would increase
it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie



"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"JaxAshby" wrote in
ink.net:

Aircraft get greater lift just after takeoff if they leave their
landing gear down. That's because the tires are still rotating from
takeoff and they provide lift in the airstream via the Magnus effect.
Betcha ole Bertie didn't know that.


Betcha old Bertie has forgotten more about airplanes than you'll ever
know,
fjuckwit.

Bertei

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"mbrookesn231" wrote in
le.rogers.com:

That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should lower the
amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel is going in the
direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would increase
it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not

Greater lift for aircraft
 

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"mbrookesn231" wrote in
le.rogers.com:

That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel is
going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during retraction is
considered worse than leaving it down in the event of an engine failure!


Bertie

true.

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"mbrookesn231" wrote in
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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type

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Ralph Nesbitt wrote:

Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!


Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.

Many aircraft have gear doors that open for retraction/extension,
but are closed when the gear is locked in place, either up or down.
In those aircraft, drag will be higher during the extension or
retraction sequence, as an extra door is open and hanging in the
breeze.

Mike

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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt

Well, I ws thinking more of ther gear doors opeing and closing during the
sequence.


Bertie

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That makes no sense, according to that theory the wheel should
lower the amount of lift, seeing as the lower part of the wheel
is going in the direction of the air.


nope, he's right,

It's the greater speed of the upper part of the wheel that would
increase it but it's insignificant in any case.


Bertie


the amount of theoretical lift generated is negligible, whereas the
drag generated from extended gear is not


Well, exactly. though on some aircraft the drag caused during
retraction is considered worse than leaving it down in the event of
an engine failure!


Bertie

true.


Can't think of one off the top of my head, though!

Bertie

Any A/C that the gear rotates 90 degrees to stow would have greater drag
during the "Rotate/Stow" sequence.
Ralph Nesbitt

Well, I ws thinking more of ther gear doors opeing and closing during the
sequence.


Bertie

which in Tarverworld would mean that the transitioning gear doors,
creating drag, would therefore be acting like a spolier and seeing
that a spolier is a flap will make the wing thicker therfore creating
lift.

ergo a gear door is a lift device !

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