Show my what?


Yes indeed. So, is it the "hull form" that is causing the torque or is it
heeling?

The navigator© wrote:
Take two boats, say a canoe stern and a modern form but same sailplan.
balance them and then raise wind speed. One will round up more than the
other...

Neither will "round up" if the skipper knows what he's doing. Or do you mean that
one will develop stronger weather helm than the other? That is obvious. Are you
proud of figuring this out?



Obviously outside your 'extensive' experience Doug, or too
difficult to understand?

Umm, no.



Don't bother with more of your pompous bluster, we who have sailed such
boats can see you haven't. I think's it's typical that you try to avoid
the real question at hand which is: Can a modern high speed hull shape
(e.g a V60) be balanced across WIND SPEEDS AND SEAS with a FREE rudder
by using hull form!

This is the first time this particular question has been asked. I guess you have
to try and keep changing the subject, since the discussion has left you behind?
What do you mean by "using hull form" ... AFAIK no boats change the shape of their
hull underway. Are you talking about varying the angle of heel just for the effect
on the helm?




Could it be that you can't find the answer with a
dinghy sailing manual?

Actually, a good dinghy sailing manual will in fact tell a lot about balancing the
helm using heel & trim.



By the way, if you start to loose the helm with a spinnaker up you ease
the sheet through the winch very quickly. Try to remember that if you
ever get invited to race a BIG boat.

Obsessed with size, Navvie?

Not sure what you mean by "loosing the helm" but most sailors know what is meant
by either a death roll or a broach. Could go either way. Letting the sheet run
will help either, but it's better to use a specific technique for whatever is
starting to go wrong, and to have quick enough reflexes to catch the boat and get
her pointed in the right direction again. For a broach, letting the vang run is
the first step, then letting the main out (if it's not already against the
shrouds), then (if you've still got time) pulling the pole down hard and easing
the spinnaker sheet. Only let the sheet run if all else fails.

In a death roll, letting the spinnaker sheet run free is going to make it worse
immediately, although it may get you out of trouble once the current oscillation
is over. The better answer is to run the pole forward and down hard, and also if
you crew is sharp they'll yank the sheet twinger down hard too.

The real problem is that all this stuff has to happen fast, there is not time to
explain. A well drilled crew can pull a boat out of an impending broach or death
roll, and this can make a big gain on a downwind leg where others are wiping out.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King