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http://community.webshots.com/user/ella_vuela
No less than 6,200 visits and 141 downloads! I had no idea we were so popular! Now where are those pictures from all the other NG members? High res in focus please! Cheers MC |
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Very, very nice!
Scout "The_navigator©" wrote No less than 6,200 visits and 141 downloads! |
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My humble sailboat would be an embarrassement by comparison to all the
beautiful boats here! (well, maybe I'd look ok next to the color blind guy). Still, I will do my best to get a decent, (high res) shot of her to display. Scout "The_navigator©" wrote Have you contributed? |
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"Scout" wrote in message ... My humble sailboat would be an embarrassement by comparison to all the beautiful boats here! You've got an old, half price, C & C 32 ?? Regards Donal -- |
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Starwind 19 Review
LOA: 18ft 7in LWL: 15ft 0in Beam: 7ft 6in Draft: K/CB board up/dn....1'6"/4'6" Displacement: 1350 lbs Ballast: 395 lbs Sail Area: Main & Jib..153 ft2 Capsize Rating: 2.71 Sleeps: 2 adults, 2 children (4) Designer: Jim Taylor Number Built: 600 Year Introduced: 1982 Strengths: Factory deck plan is adequate with few modifications necessary. handles 25 mph winds and choppy water surprisingly well. Very stable design with big boat lines. GREAT boat to learn on before moving up. Large cockpit for the size of boat (19'). Weaknesses:Not as fast as most some 18-20. Hull rating somewhere around 5.8 mph. Stern rail guard not necessary, but factory original main traveler uses the rail guard as a simple traveler system. Review Summary:Overall a very pleasant boat to sail and own if you are limited to a trailerable style. Taylor's designs are superb (as now seen in Precision sailboats) especially where maximizing available space in a small boat is essential. Wellcraft is known for building brickhouses in boat hulls. The Starwind 19 is a sturdy as she can be. The construction is commendable. "CANDChelp" wrote Scout, I missed it before...what type of boat do you own and sail? |
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"CANDChelp" wrote in message ... Is this what you own?? http://www.towerpromotions.com/Odayb...tarwind19.html RB |
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well, that model, not that exact boat.
Scout "Scout" wrote yes! "CANDChelp" wrote Is this what you own?? http://www.towerpromotions.com/Odayb...tarwind19.html |
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well, that model, not that exact boat.
Looks like a fine little boat! RB |
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is ''brickhouse'' really a good adjective for a boat hull?
nice boat! Scotty "Scout" wrote Wellcraft is known for building brickhouses in boat hulls. |
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Scout wrote:
Starwind 19 Review There's nothing wrong with owning a small boat. The mark of a good sailor is what he can do, not what he can buy. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...39014035lhmlmJ One of the greatest compliments ever paid to our little cruiser was a few years ago when I helped a couple in an Oyster of about 50' LOA tie up, and later that morning he stopped by our boat to say thanks. I invited him aboard for a cup of coffee, it being that time of morning, and he was all smiles and said how he envied us our simple, easy-to-maintain boat that could explore lots of small places. "The smaller the boat, the greater the adventure." Fresh Breezes- Doug King PS our Shameless Commerce division demands that I tell everybody the boat pictures in the link above is for sale. |
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Thanks Scotty,
I wondered about that terminology myself! lol Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote is ''brickhouse'' really a good adjective for a boat hull? nice boat! Scotty |
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Thanks Doug,
One of things I like about it is that I've been able to experience lakes, rivers, bays, and even ocean sailing with it. It is nice for getting close to shore too. Now I'm getting the bug for something bigger though, mainly because I want more room to move around onboard, especially sleeping - this boat severely limits my tossing and turning! I have taken it offshore a few times now (Little Egg Inlet) and find I really enjoy the limitlessness and potential of ocean sailing. My long term goal is to spend a summer sailing to Bermuda and back (from my home near Philadelphia). First I want to take some Coast Guard classes and sail more of the local coastline. BTW - great pics - & your 19' Hunter is a real beauty! Scout "DSK" wrote There's nothing wrong with owning a small boat. The mark of a good sailor is what he can do, not what he can buy. |
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One of things I like about it is that I've been able to experience lakes, rivers, bays, and even ocean sailing with it. It is nice for getting close to shore too. Yep, little boats can get around! Now I'm getting the bug for something bigger though, mainly because I want more room to move around onboard, especially sleeping - this boat severely limits my tossing and turning! One of the things that is also important is a comfortable place to sit, allowing different postures from slouching indolently to attentive reading. Most boats have better sleeping than sitting accomodations. I have taken it offshore a few times now (Little Egg Inlet) and find I really enjoy the limitlessness and potential of ocean sailing. My long term goal is to spend a summer sailing to Bermuda and back (from my home near Philadelphia). That shouldn't take all summer! First I want to take some Coast Guard classes and sail more of the local coastline. BTW - great pics - & your 19' Hunter is a real beauty! Sounds like you have a good practical program in mind. The USCG Aux courses are pretty good, some of the instructors I've known are a bit doctrinaire for my liking, but still a solid foundation. I wouldn't call the Hunter 19 beautiful, but it's kinda cute and it's been a LOT of fun... we'll be sad to see it go. Doesn't have an air conditioner though ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Scout,
It really doesn't matter what kind of sailboat you have as long as you like it and it suits the sailing necessities of today for you. As an experienced person who has climbed the ladder from 19 footer up, I can assure you that this is the way to go. It seems that many people who become enamored with what they think is the romanticism of sailing run out and purchase boats that are way beyond their skill level. They become frustrated very quickly and then give up the sport. You leave yourself room to grow. Somehow, I don't see you as the Neal type who will sit stagnant with his first boat purchase, but as a sailor who will grow and advance with each new boat. Happy sailing to you. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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-- is ''brickhouse'' really a good adjective for a boat hull? No...but it's a great song.... katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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well, that model, not that exact boat. Looks like a fine little boat! Good thing you said, that, Bobby...I was going to get after you if you said anything different. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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She's a brick.........house..........ungh..
I used ta play it all the time in the disco, one of my favorites! (Next to Grapevine) Haggy katysails wrote in message ... -- is ''brickhouse'' really a good adjective for a boat hull? No...but it's a great song.... katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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katysails wrote: I used ta play it all the time in the disco, one of my favorites! (Next to Grapevine) Mr Sails says its' my theme song... Does he make up lyrics or use the originals? S. |
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It really doesn't matter what kind of sailboat you have as long as you like it
and it suits the sailing necessities of today for you. I agree, but there are a few brands that will identify you instantly as a fool, no matter how and where you sail. Coronado (most models) Siedleman (Most models) Bayliner (all models) Mac (All models) Ticon (all models) Lancer (all models) Beneteau (some models) Hunter (Some models) Unless the boat is free and needs no work, you'd do best to avoid these brands and spare yourself a prideless sailing experience and impossibe resale. Good luck, RB |
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I used ta play it all the time in the disco, one of my favorites! (Next to
Grapevine) Mr Sails says its' my theme song... I would have thought "Baby Elephant Walk" would suit you better. Bwahahaha! RB |
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Good thing you said, that, Bobby...I was going to get after you if you said
anything different. I not mean 24/7. I'm off on Wednesday's between 9-11.30 am. RB |
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Bubbles, you're nuts.
CANDChelp wrote: It really doesn't matter what kind of sailboat you have as long as you like it and it suits the sailing necessities of today for you. I agree, but there are a few brands that will identify you instantly as a fool, no matter how and where you sail. |
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Thanks Katy,
I went from age 15 to 43 without sailing a day, absorbed and distracted with life's other pursuits. But the joy of sailing that I had found in my youth stayed with me; it became a dream deferred. My father, an old navy man, found a Styrofoam sailboat for me when I was about 13, I think it was called Snark or something. Anyway, he would anchor his cabin cruiser at certain points, and I would launch my sailboat from his boat. I would sail it for hours around Long Beach Island, capsizing it, swimming it to shore, playing games (like seeing how close I could come to Dad's boat without hitting it), and just generally loving it. To put things in a time perspective, I was sailing it past Dad's boat when he came out and told me he had just heard over the radio that Neil Armstrong had walked on the moon (July 69). When the boat was stolen, I was heartbroken and didn't manage to get another until now. But I remembered two things distinctly from my childhood sailing experiences: it's incredibly exciting to harness a good breeze and, the damned things flip easy! With that in mind, I decided to buy a more serious boat (all things being relative, I'm comparing my current boat to a 12' Styrofoam toy). Here's what I said: I'm looking for a boat I can afford to sink, or destroy, if it comes to it. I then found this Starwind, with a trailer and a new Honda outboard, full sails, needed some work, blah blah blah, for $2800. I've beaten it a bit, unintentionally of course. I've not only gone aground, but slammed it on a sandbar by missing the inlet channel and getting dropped by a wave onto the sandy bottom, I've forgotten to put the engine in neutral while docking, and the grimaced when I realized the chomping sound I heard was my prop taking bites out of my rudder, I stepped my mast, lost my balance, and grimaced some more as the mast tilted a few degrees to port and ripped out two base screws, I dropped my boat on a winch, while trying to dry dock it in my yard, and put a hole in the hull, and... plenty of other neat stuff. But I've learned a lot too. I think I'm ready for comfort, a bit more safety, and of course, bigger, costlier mistakes! Scout "katysails" wrote in message ... Scout, It really doesn't matter what kind of sailboat you have as long as you like it and it suits the sailing necessities of today for you. As an experienced person who has climbed the ladder from 19 footer up, I can assure you that this is the way to go. It seems that many people who become enamored with what they think is the romanticism of sailing run out and purchase boats that are way beyond their skill level. They become frustrated very quickly and then give up the sport. You leave yourself room to grow. Somehow, I don't see you as the Neal type who will sit stagnant with his first boat purchase, but as a sailor who will grow and advance with each new boat. Happy sailing to you. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Do you normally sail by yourself?
SV "Scout" wrote in message ... Thanks Katy, I went from age 15 to 43 without sailing a day, absorbed and distracted with life's other pursuits. But the joy of sailing that I had found in my youth stayed with me; it became a dream deferred. My father, an old navy man, found a Styrofoam sailboat for me when I was about 13, I think it was called Snark or something. Anyway, he would anchor his cabin cruiser at certain points, and I would launch my sailboat from his boat. I would sail it for hours around Long Beach Island, capsizing it, swimming it to shore, playing games (like seeing how close I could come to Dad's boat without hitting it), and just generally loving it. To put things in a time perspective, I was sailing it past Dad's boat when he came out and told me he had just heard over the radio that Neil Armstrong had walked on the moon (July 69). When the boat was stolen, I was heartbroken and didn't manage to get another until now. But I remembered two things distinctly from my childhood sailing experiences: it's incredibly exciting to harness a good breeze and, the damned things flip easy! With that in mind, I decided to buy a more serious boat (all things being relative, I'm comparing my current boat to a 12' Styrofoam toy). Here's what I said: I'm looking for a boat I can afford to sink, or destroy, if it comes to it. I then found this Starwind, with a trailer and a new Honda outboard, full sails, needed some work, blah blah blah, for $2800. I've beaten it a bit, unintentionally of course. I've not only gone aground, but slammed it on a sandbar by missing the inlet channel and getting dropped by a wave onto the sandy bottom, I've forgotten to put the engine in neutral while docking, and the grimaced when I realized the chomping sound I heard was my prop taking bites out of my rudder, I stepped my mast, lost my balance, and grimaced some more as the mast tilted a few degrees to port and ripped out two base screws, I dropped my boat on a winch, while trying to dry dock it in my yard, and put a hole in the hull, and... plenty of other neat stuff. But I've learned a lot too. I think I'm ready for comfort, a bit more safety, and of course, bigger, costlier mistakes! Scout "katysails" wrote in message ... Scout, It really doesn't matter what kind of sailboat you have as long as you like it and it suits the sailing necessities of today for you. As an experienced person who has climbed the ladder from 19 footer up, I can assure you that this is the way to go. It seems that many people who become enamored with what they think is the romanticism of sailing run out and purchase boats that are way beyond their skill level. They become frustrated very quickly and then give up the sport. You leave yourself room to grow. Somehow, I don't see you as the Neal type who will sit stagnant with his first boat purchase, but as a sailor who will grow and advance with each new boat. Happy sailing to you. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Know what you mean about wives wanting the little things. We did 8 days on
our Mac 26' (not an 'X'). It was a great trip! Spent a few hours talking to a guy who sailed for a month, from Philly down to and all around the bay, in an 18' er. Meanwhile a lot of big sailboats stay tied to the dock with the AC running. Are you familiar with Del. Bay? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... Scott, Not so far, it seems like there is always someone who wants to go and not enough trips to take them all. I would like to do an extended solo trip this summer (about a week) but the dance card is pretty full. The main reason for wanting to solo at this point, is that I'm noticing most people like sailing, but don't have the patience for longer sailing voyages. After a day or so, they get that look of, "ok, this is cool but I want to go back now." Probably the same faces Columbus and others have seen all too much. I can understand that, but it's always a bummer for me. I'm thinking with a bigger boat, more conveniences like a private toilet, bigger sleeping quarters, etc, I will be able to convince my wife to do the longer trips. She's a great mate in every way, but I can see she likes the little things that make a boat a home. In the meantime, a good little trip for me would be to sail home this year, as opposed to trailering my boat home (75 miles by car, 200? miles if sailed, from Long Beach Island, up the Delaware River, just about to Trenton. No Tolls, No Gas : ) Then pull it out at a marina that is just 2 miles from my house. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote Do you normally sail by yourself? |
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I've been through the DelBay in motorboats, it can get rough too. We used
to take my father's boat (too big to trailer) from Croydon, PA, where he dry docked, to New Gretna, by way of Delaware, around Cape May, Atl. Ocean, Great Bay, Mullica River, Bass River. There was a fella killed in the DelBay last year, maybe 2 years ago. Of course, they did something dumb. They anchored and tied off to a stern cleat, the powerful current build the transom underwater and an older guy on bored was killed (not drown, but hypothermia). Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Know what you mean about wives wanting the little things. We did 8 days on our Mac 26' (not an 'X'). It was a great trip! Spent a few hours talking to a guy who sailed for a month, from Philly down to and all around the bay, in an 18' er. Meanwhile a lot of big sailboats stay tied to the dock with the AC running. Are you familiar with Del. Bay? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... Scott, Not so far, it seems like there is always someone who wants to go and not enough trips to take them all. I would like to do an extended solo trip this summer (about a week) but the dance card is pretty full. The main reason for wanting to solo at this point, is that I'm noticing most people like sailing, but don't have the patience for longer sailing voyages. After a day or so, they get that look of, "ok, this is cool but I want to go back now." Probably the same faces Columbus and others have seen all too much. I can understand that, but it's always a bummer for me. I'm thinking with a bigger boat, more conveniences like a private toilet, bigger sleeping quarters, etc, I will be able to convince my wife to do the longer trips. She's a great mate in every way, but I can see she likes the little things that make a boat a home. In the meantime, a good little trip for me would be to sail home this year, as opposed to trailering my boat home (75 miles by car, 200? miles if sailed, from Long Beach Island, up the Delaware River, just about to Trenton. No Tolls, No Gas : ) Then pull it out at a marina that is just 2 miles from my house. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote Do you normally sail by yourself? |
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Somebody told me once that if you haven't run aground, you're not a sailor.
John Cairns "Scout" wrote in message ... Thanks Katy, I went from age 15 to 43 without sailing a day, absorbed and distracted with life's other pursuits. But the joy of sailing that I had found in my youth stayed with me; it became a dream deferred. My father, an old navy man, found a Styrofoam sailboat for me when I was about 13, I think it was called Snark or something. Anyway, he would anchor his cabin cruiser at certain points, and I would launch my sailboat from his boat. I would sail it for hours around Long Beach Island, capsizing it, swimming it to shore, playing games (like seeing how close I could come to Dad's boat without hitting it), and just generally loving it. To put things in a time perspective, I was sailing it past Dad's boat when he came out and told me he had just heard over the radio that Neil Armstrong had walked on the moon (July 69). When the boat was stolen, I was heartbroken and didn't manage to get another until now. But I remembered two things distinctly from my childhood sailing experiences: it's incredibly exciting to harness a good breeze and, the damned things flip easy! With that in mind, I decided to buy a more serious boat (all things being relative, I'm comparing my current boat to a 12' Styrofoam toy). Here's what I said: I'm looking for a boat I can afford to sink, or destroy, if it comes to it. I then found this Starwind, with a trailer and a new Honda outboard, full sails, needed some work, blah blah blah, for $2800. I've beaten it a bit, unintentionally of course. I've not only gone aground, but slammed it on a sandbar by missing the inlet channel and getting dropped by a wave onto the sandy bottom, I've forgotten to put the engine in neutral while docking, and the grimaced when I realized the chomping sound I heard was my prop taking bites out of my rudder, I stepped my mast, lost my balance, and grimaced some more as the mast tilted a few degrees to port and ripped out two base screws, I dropped my boat on a winch, while trying to dry dock it in my yard, and put a hole in the hull, and... plenty of other neat stuff. But I've learned a lot too. I think I'm ready for comfort, a bit more safety, and of course, bigger, costlier mistakes! Scout |
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I noticed lots of O'days at the sail-sale site you posted. I never
seem to hear much about them here, how do they rank? Scout Ahem...Scout...ask former O'Day owners about O'Days...not former Catalina people...We have owned 2 O'Days. Bith were great boats, although the 22 was a trifle squashy inside *we're both tall people* We sailed the crud out of the 22 and then went on to the 27...by the time we were ready to go up from there, the options decreased since real O'Day's were amde before 1982 and we didn't want that old of a boat. The newer ones were made Lear siegler from whatever Pearson bought from O'Day....they went to what they termed a European interior...pretty bleak... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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There are three kinds of sailors... those who've run aground,
those who will run aground, and those who've lied about not running aground. "John Cairns" wrote in message ... Somebody told me once that if you haven't run aground, you're not a sailor. John Cairns "Scout" wrote in message ... Thanks Katy, I went from age 15 to 43 without sailing a day, absorbed and distracted with life's other pursuits. But the joy of sailing that I had found in my youth stayed with me; it became a dream deferred. My father, an old navy man, found a Styrofoam sailboat for me when I was about 13, I think it was called Snark or something. Anyway, he would anchor his cabin cruiser at certain points, and I would launch my sailboat from his boat. I would sail it for hours around Long Beach Island, capsizing it, swimming it to shore, playing games (like seeing how close I could come to Dad's boat without hitting it), and just generally loving it. To put things in a time perspective, I was sailing it past Dad's boat when he came out and told me he had just heard over the radio that Neil Armstrong had walked on the moon (July 69). When the boat was stolen, I was heartbroken and didn't manage to get another until now. But I remembered two things distinctly from my childhood sailing experiences: it's incredibly exciting to harness a good breeze and, the damned things flip easy! With that in mind, I decided to buy a more serious boat (all things being relative, I'm comparing my current boat to a 12' Styrofoam toy). Here's what I said: I'm looking for a boat I can afford to sink, or destroy, if it comes to it. I then found this Starwind, with a trailer and a new Honda outboard, full sails, needed some work, blah blah blah, for $2800. I've beaten it a bit, unintentionally of course. I've not only gone aground, but slammed it on a sandbar by missing the inlet channel and getting dropped by a wave onto the sandy bottom, I've forgotten to put the engine in neutral while docking, and the grimaced when I realized the chomping sound I heard was my prop taking bites out of my rudder, I stepped my mast, lost my balance, and grimaced some more as the mast tilted a few degrees to port and ripped out two base screws, I dropped my boat on a winch, while trying to dry dock it in my yard, and put a hole in the hull, and... plenty of other neat stuff. But I've learned a lot too. I think I'm ready for comfort, a bit more safety, and of course, bigger, costlier mistakes! Scout |
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yep, similar to an old motorcycling adage, "two kinds of riders: those who
have fallen, and those who have not fallen yet." Scout "Jonathan Ganz" wrote There are three kinds of sailors... those who've run aground, those who will run aground, and those who've lied about not running aground. |
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Scout,
No matter what you read here or on any other ng, ListServ, or whatever, sailing is the best way to learn how to sail. The discussions here of a technical nature can be interesting and sometimes fun, but the reality is that some of the posters here are...how shall I put this politely?....erudite techno-heads?...you know...college professor types with advanced degrees. They do know how to sail...very well...but they just can't seem to get away from dissecting everything to death...(to wit: the Bernoulli vs Newtonian force stuff...who cares as long s it goes like it's supposed to?) The saving grace is that they haven't sunk so low into their academia that they still can't rise up and act human at times. And Scout, all those kids you think you're getting rid of within the next few years? Ain't gonna happen...they'll take turns over the years coming back, just to see if you've kept your parental skills honed. Go out there and buy a bigger boat (with a survey, please) and get sailing! -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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used to hear,'' if you don't crash, you're not going fast enough''.
I always rode at 98%. ;) Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... yep, similar to an old motorcycling adage, "two kinds of riders: those who have fallen, and those who have not fallen yet." Scout "Jonathan Ganz" wrote There are three kinds of sailors... those who've run aground, those who will run aground, and those who've lied about not running aground. |
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:04:39 -0400, "Scout" wrote:
yep, similar to an old motorcycling adage, "two kinds of riders: those who have fallen, and those who have not fallen yet." Theres 10 types of people in the world. Those that get binary, and those that don't get binary. S/V Cat's Meow http://www.catsmeow.org |
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You plan to stay on the Joisey shore? Just asking because sailing the Chessy
favours a shallow draft. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... Thanks for the O'Day background. We're tall too and I'd like to be able to stand inside the cabin, so that's a consideration. I'm getting it narrowed down slowly but surely. I've read a lot of discussion here regarding hull types, keel types, etc. I plan on staying with a fiberglass mono-hull. I prefer stability to speed, but would like to keep up in a group sail (my marina organizes group coastal sails). I'm not real interested in racing (I have enough stress in my life) but want to be able to extract the best performance possible from my boat. I'm leaning away from swing keels and wing-keels, and more toward a fixed or full keel. I'm not rushing out to buy anything, I'm just keeping my eyes open, because I'm slowly accepting how much there is to know about sailing (efficiently). I base that statement on the number of threads posted here in which I'm lost. Added to that is the fact that we are moving soon, and my wife has her heart set on something grand, we have one kid who just graduated college, two more still in college, a daughter hinting about a wedding, etc., and I'm thinking that when I buy this boat, it had better be the right one because it may be the last one for a long, long time. I'm crawling up the learning curve with the help of this group. I don't think a person could buy a book with the kind of information, honesty, and debate seen here everyday, and certainly not with as many laughs. BTW, I've purchased a couple of professional vhs videos/dvd's on sail trimming, rough weather sailing, etc. I'd be willing to mail them around to any interested parties, just promise to mail them back. Anyone interested can email me. First come first serve kind of thing, but no problem if they go through a circuit. Scout "katysails" wrote Ahem...Scout...ask former O'Day owners about O'Days...not former Catalina people...We have owned 2 O'Days. Bith were great boats, although the 22 was a trifle squashy inside *we're both tall people* We sailed the crud out of the 22 and then went on to the 27...by the time we were ready to go up from there, the options decreased since real O'Day's were amde before 1982 and we didn't want that old of a boat. The newer ones were made Lear siegler from whatever Pearson bought from O'Day....they went to what they termed a European interior...pretty bleak... |
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Well said Mom.
You might want to set your word wrap. If you do, click on tools; options; send; (in news sending format), plain text settings; automaticly wrap text at ___ charachters, when sending. I use 76. Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... Scout, No matter what you read here or on any other ng, ListServ, or whatever, sailing is the best way to learn how to sail. The discussions here of a technical nature can be interesting and sometimes fun, but the reality is that some of the posters here are...how shall I put this politely?....erudite techno-heads?...you know...college professor types with advanced degrees. They do know how to sail...very well...but they just can't seem to get away from dissecting everything to death...(to wit: the Bernoulli vs Newtonian force stuff...who cares as long s it goes like it's supposed to?) The saving grace is that they haven't sunk so low into their academia that they still can't rise up and act human at times. And Scout, all those kids you think you're getting rid of within the next few years? Ain't gonna happen...they'll take turns over the years coming back, just to see if you've kept your parental skills honed. Go out there and buy a bigger boat (with a survey, please) and get sailing! -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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I had planned to spend a lot of time in the Chessy, with occasional jaunts
along the coast. All I want is everything! Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote You plan to stay on the Joisey shore? Just asking because sailing the Chessy favours a shallow draft. |
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Theres 10 types of people in the world. Those that get binary, and those that don't get binary. That's funny....do you think Scott will get it? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Daniel and Issac I don't think Isaac made any money from it...don't know about Daniel... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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