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CANDChelp July 27th 03 09:50 PM

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http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

Click on the above to see why Neal will never be taken at his word, while I
continously provide proof positive that I sail my (wife's!!!) boat! And do it
well!
Bwahahahahaha!
No way does Neal EVER pass a J24. No way, no how. Billy Jane MIGHT, but I doubt
it. Meanwhile, we enjoyed better cruising and comfort than any Express 30 or
the like!
Sailed (and I mean SAILED) through Hell's gate Friday evening (took lots of
tacks near the Brother's), though we motored after that as the buildings shut
the wind down. The city was beautiful and it was a clear night. Took a slip
over at Jersey city Marina. Woke up early and helped rebed hardware on my
friend's Galaxy 32, then cleaned her up. By 10:00 am we decided we deserved a
sail, so we took everyone out on Alien for a quick sail-by of Lady Liberty.
Does anyone know the deal with that fireboat that takes tours and blows the
water guns for the crew?
Dropped everyone off and sailed for the Verazano....under and out past Coney
Island for dinner. We didn't get far offshore, so that'll have to wait a couple
of weeks for that one. We hit the river again and made Hell's gate in record
time. We anchored right near home off of Fort Totten and had the best "sleep"
ever!

Link again is:
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY

katysails July 27th 03 10:04 PM

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Glad you had a good time this weekend....weather here was for crap...I imagine it's coming your way, since that's usually the
way of it....

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Simple Simon July 27th 03 11:07 PM

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I love the disappearing jib you have there, Booby.

I bet that old iron jenny was revved up to max rpms
to catch up on and pass that J-24. I don't have to
resort to using a motor to overtake and pass them.

I do it all the time under sail alone. You should try it
sometime - being under sail, that is.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

Click on the above to see why Neal will never be taken at his word, while I
continously provide proof positive that I sail my (wife's!!!) boat! And do it
well!
Bwahahahahaha!
No way does Neal EVER pass a J24. No way, no how. Billy Jane MIGHT, but I doubt
it. Meanwhile, we enjoyed better cruising and comfort than any Express 30 or
the like!
Sailed (and I mean SAILED) through Hell's gate Friday evening (took lots of
tacks near the Brother's), though we motored after that as the buildings shut
the wind down. The city was beautiful and it was a clear night. Took a slip
over at Jersey city Marina. Woke up early and helped rebed hardware on my
friend's Galaxy 32, then cleaned her up. By 10:00 am we decided we deserved a
sail, so we took everyone out on Alien for a quick sail-by of Lady Liberty.
Does anyone know the deal with that fireboat that takes tours and blows the
water guns for the crew?
Dropped everyone off and sailed for the Verazano....under and out past Coney
Island for dinner. We didn't get far offshore, so that'll have to wait a couple
of weeks for that one. We hit the river again and made Hell's gate in record
time. We anchored right near home off of Fort Totten and had the best "sleep"
ever!

Link again is:
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY




Flying Tadpole July 27th 03 11:19 PM

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Yes, but didja do any donuts?


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Simple Simon July 27th 03 11:27 PM

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He had to roll it up to keep it from flapping around in
the headwind created by the iron jenny. That is obvious.

There was not enough wind to make it necessary to keep
it halfway rolled up in a race with a J-24. I know how
fast J-24s are. I race them all the time up on Biscayne
Bay were there are some of the world's largest fleets
of them. I beat them all the time. They simply are slower
than my boat in all but very light winds.


"Oz1" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:07:54 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

I love the disappearing jib you have there, Booby.

I bet that old iron jenny was revved up to max rpms
to catch up on and pass that J-24. I don't have to
resort to using a motor to overtake and pass them.

I do it all the time under sail alone. You should try it
sometime - being under sail, that is.


Ohhh Cappy now you're just showing how green you really are!
Bubbles is reaching down onto the J which is close hauled and badly
trimmed, overlaoded and dragging an outboard.
The genoa is there just partially rolled...must have been blowing a
gale eh?



Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Bobsprit July 28th 03 02:09 AM

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Ohhh Cappy now you're just showing how green you really are!
Bubbles is reaching down onto the J which is close hauled and badly
trimmed, overlaoded and dragging an outboard.
The genoa is there just partially rolled...must have been blowing a
gale eh?

Ozzy...you've got a sailors eye!
The genoa is rolled down quite a bit. It was really strange, but maybe typical
for the harbor. The wind would almost die, then pick up to 20 knots, then die
again, all minutes apart. The J kept rounding up, dumping his main, and was
overpowered. We ran into another J that was properly reefed. We passed him, but
not as quickly.
The Coronado 27 wouldn't pass ANY J24.
Neal must be banging his head against the bucket right about now!

RB

Bobsprit July 28th 03 02:12 AM

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I bet that old iron jenny was revved up to max rpms
to catch up on and pass that J-24.


More ignorance on parade!
The C&C 32 would never catch the J24 with the motor on...it's impossible with
the folding prop. Best speed is 6 knots or so.
On a reach we average 7.5 to catch the J. Later we met another pair of J24s
(Omega on the sail) that were better handled. It took more effort to pass them
as they were trimming and working at it.
Let's see a Coronado 27 do that!

Bwahahahahaha! Poor Neal!!!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:18 AM

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Same tack as they is only fair. I don't cheat like

How sad!!!! Is this the best you have??
I guess it is.
And I'm TOWING a BIG dinghy, Neal!!!!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:23 AM

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He had to roll it up to keep it from flapping around in
the headwind created by the iron jenny. That is obvious.

I think you better look at the pics again, dummy! Follow the jib sheet. The
sail is visible, though washed out against the sky.
Sorry!!!!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:24 AM

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I beat them all the time.




Suuuuuuurrreeee you do! That's why your boat is rated at 220 and J24s are
typically rated at 174!!!

Busted again!


RB

Jeff Morris July 28th 03 02:41 AM

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Nonsense - there's no reason why a folding prop shouldn't push you to hull speed. In
fact, one reason for a folder is that you don't have to sacrifice prop size to prevent
drag. Further, unless it is very mismatched, it should allow you to go faster with sail
and engine than engine alone (up to a point). I normally power at 7 knots , but I often
motorsail at 8-9 knots.

Is it possible those boats with "omegas" on the sail were Solings? Either way, you should
be faster then a Soling or J24 in many conditions. And why would you brag about being
faster than a C&C 27?

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I bet that old iron jenny was revved up to max rpms
to catch up on and pass that J-24.


More ignorance on parade!
The C&C 32 would never catch the J24 with the motor on...it's impossible with
the folding prop. Best speed is 6 knots or so.
On a reach we average 7.5 to catch the J. Later we met another pair of J24s
(Omega on the sail) that were better handled. It took more effort to pass them
as they were trimming and working at it.
Let's see a Coronado 27 do that!

Bwahahahahaha! Poor Neal!!!

RB




CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:44 AM

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Nonsense - there's no reason why a folding prop shouldn't push you to hull
speed. In
fact, one reason for a folder is that you don'

Jeff, speed for the 32 under power is listed as 6 knots. I can make a bit
better in calm water. With a three blade fixed she'll make hull speed at far
lower RPMs.
My buddy's J-30 could easily make 7 knots with a fixed blade. Now he tends to
make 5 with a fold unless he pushes it.

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:46 AM

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Is it possible those boats with "omegas" on the sail were Solings? Either way,
you should
be faster then a Soling or J24 in many conditions. And why would you brag
about being
faster than a C&C 27?

They were J24s. The Omega symbol was on the hull and sails, taped/painted on.
Some kind of club. We also saw J24s that said Newport Sailing Club.
I'm bragging because Neal's boat CAN'T pass a J24 or C&C 27.

RB

Jeff Morris July 28th 03 03:04 AM

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Wow! You spent 16000 times what Neal's boat is worth and you're bragging that it a little
be faster. Good one, Boobie!


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Is it possible those boats with "omegas" on the sail were Solings? Either way,
you should
be faster then a Soling or J24 in many conditions. And why would you brag
about being
faster than a C&C 27?

They were J24s. The Omega symbol was on the hull and sails, taped/painted on.
Some kind of club. We also saw J24s that said Newport Sailing Club.
I'm bragging because Neal's boat CAN'T pass a J24 or C&C 27.

RB




The_navigator© July 28th 03 03:27 AM

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Not a single white cap and you have furled the genoa? Are you afraid of
heeling or that that keel repair not trustworthy?

Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

Click on the above to see why Neal will never be taken at his word, while I
continously provide proof positive that I sail my (wife's!!!) boat! And do it
well!
Bwahahahahaha!
No way does Neal EVER pass a J24. No way, no how. Billy Jane MIGHT, but I doubt
it. Meanwhile, we enjoyed better cruising and comfort than any Express 30 or
the like!
Sailed (and I mean SAILED) through Hell's gate Friday evening (took lots of
tacks near the Brother's), though we motored after that as the buildings shut
the wind down. The city was beautiful and it was a clear night. Took a slip
over at Jersey city Marina. Woke up early and helped rebed hardware on my
friend's Galaxy 32, then cleaned her up. By 10:00 am we decided we deserved a
sail, so we took everyone out on Alien for a quick sail-by of Lady Liberty.
Does anyone know the deal with that fireboat that takes tours and blows the
water guns for the crew?
Dropped everyone off and sailed for the Verazano....under and out past Coney
Island for dinner. We didn't get far offshore, so that'll have to wait a couple
of weeks for that one. We hit the river again and made Hell's gate in record
time. We anchored right near home off of Fort Totten and had the best "sleep"
ever!

Link again is:
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html

Capt RB
C&C 32
NY



SAIL LOCO July 28th 03 04:00 AM

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Crew on the J24 is waving! Maybe they should pull the outboard up!

Whyshould they? They didn't know they were racing. Maybe you should head up
to be on the same course as them or can't you do that because the candyass
cabin top traveler leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to trimming the
main. No real sailboat has a traveler mounted on the coach roof. No real
sailor would own such a boat. All those fine Hunters have coach roof
travelers. Express Yachts new where to locate the traveler to attract
experienced sailors.

Our genoa is down to 120

I guess you were reaching down on the J24 doing 11 kts and got scared.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Capt. Mooron July 28th 03 04:20 AM

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Your're assuming the talent is equal.... not a sensible option.

CM

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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| Hey dufas..... you should be faster than a J24 and a C&C27.
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| Trains are a winter sport



Capt. Mooron July 28th 03 04:30 AM

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It's not a smile..it's a big grin..... you heard of swing keels haven't you?



CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| Not a single white cap and you have furled the genoa? Are you afraid of
| heeling or that that keel repair not trustworthy?
|
| Cheers MC
|
| CANDChelp wrote:
| http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html
|
| Click on the above to see why Neal will never be taken at his word,
while I
| continously provide proof positive that I sail my (wife's!!!) boat! And
do it
| well!
| Bwahahahahaha!
| No way does Neal EVER pass a J24. No way, no how. Billy Jane MIGHT, but
I doubt
| it. Meanwhile, we enjoyed better cruising and comfort than any Express
30 or
| the like!
| Sailed (and I mean SAILED) through Hell's gate Friday evening (took lots
of
| tacks near the Brother's), though we motored after that as the buildings
shut
| the wind down. The city was beautiful and it was a clear night. Took a
slip
| over at Jersey city Marina. Woke up early and helped rebed hardware on
my
| friend's Galaxy 32, then cleaned her up. By 10:00 am we decided we
deserved a
| sail, so we took everyone out on Alien for a quick sail-by of Lady
Liberty.
| Does anyone know the deal with that fireboat that takes tours and blows
the
| water guns for the crew?
| Dropped everyone off and sailed for the Verazano....under and out past
Coney
| Island for dinner. We didn't get far offshore, so that'll have to wait a
couple
| of weeks for that one. We hit the river again and made Hell's gate in
record
| time. We anchored right near home off of Fort Totten and had the best
"sleep"
| ever!
|
| Link again is:
| http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/page1.html
|
| Capt RB
| C&C 32
| NY
|



CANDChelp July 28th 03 11:12 AM

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Some one besides Nutsy, confirm what I'm seeing or tell me I'm full of
**** . Not you Nutsy, we're talking about you not to you.

Good one, Thom! I'm sure someone will confirm!

RB

Simple Simon July 28th 03 01:05 PM

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Do you think my dinghy flies?


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
Same tack as they is only fair. I don't cheat like

How sad!!!! Is this the best you have??
I guess it is.
And I'm TOWING a BIG dinghy, Neal!!!!

RB




Simple Simon July 28th 03 01:06 PM

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Photoshopped out. Only the clew shows in one pic and
in another the sheets go up and end in the sky.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...

I think you better look at the pics again, dummy! Follow the jib sheet. The
sail is visible, though washed out against the sky.
Sorry!!!!




CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:17 PM

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The J24 is probably Photoshopped in

Gotta love the denial....

"There's no jib up!"
"Alien is reaching over!"
"They don't know it's a race!"
"The engine is on!"

Good lord!! Bwahahahahaha! There hasn't been this much denial since Ganzy's mom
caught him with Scotty!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:18 PM

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Like I told you I'm faster than J24s in any winds except light winds.

Yes, and like I told you, you're a liar.

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:20 PM

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Ratings mean less than LWL given wind enough to reach hull speed.

My LWL is longer than the LOA of a J24.

J24's exceed their hull speed and yours with ease. They will also outpoint you
to a HUGE extent.

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:22 PM

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He also
knows people who edit film and pictures.

You can no more trust a picture from him than
you can trust that he's not lying.

I'm feeling bad about upsetting Neal to this extent. In a few days I'll be
showing a video of Alien sailing upwind with a free helm!
I predict that Neal will burst into flame! At least Gay Ganzy is already
flaming!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:27 PM

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Cappy You're nuts!


Hey!!!! I'M nuts!

RB

Simple Simon July 28th 03 01:34 PM

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"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...

J24's exceed their hull speed and yours with ease. They will also outpoint you
to a HUGE extent.


J24 are not some kind of magic boat. Just because they beat any
and all boats you have ever sailed to such an extent that you are
reduced to Photoshopping then being overtaken in your pics does
not mean that I have any trouble handily beating them in anything
but light air. J24s are not known as planing boats. They are keel
boats and can plane off in certain conditions like any keel boat but
they are not like a sailboard that is designed to plane.

You show how limited your experience is and how little you know
and how you don't even have sufficient understanding of sailboats
enough to even guess what us real sailors know about them, let
alone have even one chance in a million of passing off your
bull**** on us. Give it a rest.




Simple Simon July 28th 03 01:41 PM

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I'll not believe a video any more than a Photoshopped
picture. Editing video is what your buddies in the industry
do on a daily basis. Moreover, I won't even bother
downloading or watching such a farce from your like.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
He also
knows people who edit film and pictures.

You can no more trust a picture from him than
you can trust that he's not lying.

I'm feeling bad about upsetting Neal to this extent. In a few days I'll be
showing a video of Alien sailing upwind with a free helm!
I predict that Neal will burst into flame! At least Gay Ganzy is already
flaming!

RB




CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:48 PM

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I'll not believe a video any more than a Photoshopped
picture. Editing video is what your buddies in the industry
do on a daily basis. Moreover, I won't even bother
downloading or watching such a farce from your like.

Who would have guessed that Neal would prove to be such a coward? It's clear
that my fine vessel, crew and supreme sailing skills have him on the rocks.
Maybe he left his compass cover on?

Bwahahahaha!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 01:49 PM

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Oz, you are now kill filed because you haven't contributed
anything worthwhile to this group for months and montsh

What a coward Neal has become. Imagine...he used to whine about people who
"hid" by kill filing others.
Oh well.

RB

Simple Simon July 28th 03 01:52 PM

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Capt. Neal was a made-up character in case you were
so fooled by the excellence of it all that you can't figure
it out on your own. The good Captain was a writer's
exercise.

Now Simple Simon, another character, is doing his own
thing. Try living in the real world. You'll never make it
as a sailor as long as you can't recognize reality.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
Oz, you are now kill filed because you haven't contributed
anything worthwhile to this group for months and montsh

What a coward Neal has become. Imagine...he used to whine about people who
"hid" by kill filing others.
Oh well.

RB




Simple Simon July 28th 03 01:53 PM

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Your constant lies are enough to put the new
aircraft carrier, USS Ronald Reagan on the rocks.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
I'll not believe a video any more than a Photoshopped
picture. Editing video is what your buddies in the industry
do on a daily basis. Moreover, I won't even bother
downloading or watching such a farce from your like.

Who would have guessed that Neal would prove to be such a coward? It's clear
that my fine vessel, crew and supreme sailing skills have him on the rocks.
Maybe he left his compass cover on?

Bwahahahaha!

RB




CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:04 PM

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Now Simple Simon, another character, is doing his own
thing.

he's doing the SAME thing.


RB

Simple Simon July 28th 03 02:11 PM

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He is evolving slowly as any real person would and does.

He might even evolve into a fag like you and Ganz and
all the foreign posters here but he thinks there is entirely
too much of that crap going on so maybe he won't.



"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
Now Simple Simon, another character, is doing his own
thing.

he's doing the SAME thing.


RB




CANDChelp July 28th 03 02:18 PM

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Supposed to be over your way in 5 weeks.....we'll see but I'm thinking
not.

My way as in NY???

RB

Marc July 28th 03 03:10 PM

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The barge is anchored in the Bay Ridge Flats. a shallow area of the
harbor where tugs park their loads. Bob is sailing s/e. In the
background is the Brooklyn Army Terminal , Owls Head Pollution Control
Plant and the North West Coast of Bay Ridge, north of the 69th st. The
J 24 is probably from the NY Sailing School .and is juking around in
the flats practicing tacking.

Bob, you should have come out. The wind in the Lower Bay was 15 to
18kn South, steady all day. I made two circuts from Gravesend to
Raritan to Atlantic Highlands to Rockaway Pt to the Marine Parkway
Bridge and back along the Coney Island coast to Gravesend, calling you
every hour on the hour on 72. Great sail. Where were you?




On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:46:26 -0700 (PDT), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

Hey Youse Guys,

Take a better look at those pictures and the background. Nutsy, I think
is pulling a fast shuffle. When that barge or what ever is farther away
there is no red boat. As he gets nearer there is a red boat ahead of
him. I do believed he has been overtaken and been past on the lee and
is loosing ground to the poorly, overloaded J24 (if that is what it is)

And so much for pictures from Nutsy to prove a point

Some one besides Nutsy, confirm what I'm seeing or tell me I'm full of
**** . Not you Nutsy, we're talking about you not to you.

"I'LL Drink To That"

Ole Thom



Thom Stewart July 28th 03 03:26 PM

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Hey I'm Nuts
Cappy, You're Nuts


Right you are! A couple of Nuts looking to hook up to a "Pick".

"I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"

Ole Thom


CANDChelp July 28th 03 03:30 PM

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Bob, you should have come out. The wind in the Lower Bay was 15 to
18kn South, steady all day. I made two circuts from Gravesend to
Raritan to Atlantic Highlands to Rockaway Pt to the Marine Parkway
Bridge and back along the Coney Island coast to Gravesend, calling you
every hour on the hour on 72. Great sail. Where were you?

We sailed out to Coney Island and found good strong wind there. Amazing how the
current just "lets go" after clearing the bridge. I didn't think anyone would
hail me, so I had the radio down. Sorry!

RB

CANDChelp July 28th 03 03:34 PM

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The
J 24 is probably from the NY Sailing School .and is juking around in
the flats practicing tacking.

There were J24s everywhere. Some had numbers on the hull, but this one was just
called Sea Nymph. She was from a club, but I think there's more than one. We
also saw a few Colgate 26's having fun.
But it was this boat that really looked dramatic as we approached the Verazano.
Sadly, I have took no pics of her sailing, but she was quite a site. The
unstayed mast is incredibly thick at the base, so much so that I'd called it a
windage issue. She has a HUGE main and was flying a very small chute.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ssb2too.jpg

RB

Flying Tadpole July 28th 03 03:54 PM

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CANDChelp wrote:

Supposed to be over your way in 5 weeks.....we'll see but I'm thinking
not.

My way as in NY???


Run awaaaaaaaay! Run awaaaaaay!

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