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I'm already LOL about you free helm. You are talking about a couple of
minutes.

Thom, who are you arguing with? Mooron asked to see it and I complied. He said
that a fin keeler can't go to windward with a free helm, so I kindly offered a
video.
What's da matta with ya?

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Although, I've sailed from
Eton's Neck to Greenport without Auto pilot with a locked helm. It is a
good exercise in trimming. It is something that is normally done in open
water

It's something that can be practiced anywhere. Who cares if it's only 10
minutes? It teaches trim and balance. Again, who are you debating here?
Yourself?
You seem so anxious to engage me in battle of some sort that you're inventing
POVs.
Relax.

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I really wasn't arguing I was laughing at anyone running an unmanned
helm in a area with fluky wind conditions in tight waters.

Isn't the point, wasn't the point, and still isn't, Thom.
I'm trying to help you. You seem angry.

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An instantaneous picture proves absolutely nothing

I'm providing a video in a few short days rather than a still. Why are you
trying to spoil the fun for everyone? Don't download the video if it doesn't
interest you.
Golly!

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That's an un stayed carbon fiber rig. I can't say for sure if its a
Freedom because I don't see a clear shot of the hull.

Did you sail around Nortons point or just stay in Gravesend Bay?

The current doesn't just let you go under the bridge. At full ebb, you
still have 1.5kn out past Sandy Hook


On 28 Jul 2003 14:34:56 GMT, (CANDChelp) wrote:

The
J 24 is probably from the NY Sailing School .and is juking around in
the flats practicing tacking.

There were J24s everywhere. Some had numbers on the hull, but this one was just
called Sea Nymph. She was from a club, but I think there's more than one. We
also saw a few Colgate 26's having fun.
But it was this boat that really looked dramatic as we approached the Verazano.
Sadly, I have took no pics of her sailing, but she was quite a site. The
unstayed mast is incredibly thick at the base, so much so that I'd called it a
windage issue. She has a HUGE main and was flying a very small chute.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ssb2too.jpg

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My way as in NY???

RB

Close,

Greenwich CT

Well, if you can see your way clear, you're welcome aboard for a sail. I'll
arange for a few Alien girls as well!

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"CANDChelp" wrote in message

He had to roll it up to keep it from flapping around in
the headwind created by the iron jenny. That is obvious.

I think you better look at the pics again, dummy! Follow the jib sheet.
The
sail is visible, though washed out against the sky.

New pic...

http://community.webshots.com/user/scumbalino


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Now Simple Simon, another character, is doing his own
thing

I can't tell the difference.


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sail is visible, though washed out against the sky.

New pic...

http://community.webshots.com/user/scumbalino

Clever! But I already provided this extreme close up to bust neal.
http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/idiotneal.jpg

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I can't believe you claim to have passed a J24 with the sail trimmed that poorly.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
sail is visible, though washed out against the sky.

New pic...

http://community.webshots.com/user/scumbalino

Clever! But I already provided this extreme close up to bust neal.
http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/idiotneal.jpg

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Might not even go now, we'll see.
There are plenty who could replace me on the boat and do a better job
particularly if I'm not fully fit.

Well, the invite is there, in any case. I should warn you: I sail with my
compass covered at times and my radio is not always on. I've also been spotted
inside the breakwater with NO charts!
I like the high risk stuff...I'm a sailor on the edge.

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You think that it is thick above deck you should get a look at it in the
forepeak, WOW!

Thom, when we saw it sailing, the mast looked so massive it was hard to believe
it wouldn't capsize the boat. Of course it's very light, but it's quite a
sight.

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Jeez Oz, of course he did!

But why aren't you prepared to do an analysis of sail trim based on 3 square inches of
clew? A real sailor would!

"Cappys master" Cappy kneels for Ozzies wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:01:03 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

I can't believe you claim to have passed a J24 with the sail trimmed that poorly.


Jeez you guys stiiiil don't get it!
He reached down to em then past em.
A J24 is no rocket, just popular!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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But why aren't you prepared to do an analysis of sail trim based on 3 square
inches of
clew? A real sailor would!

Clewless.


RB

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There's that famous dry oz wit again ...


"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels for Ozzies wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:34:09 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

Jeez Oz, of course he did!

But why aren't you prepared to do an analysis of sail trim based on 3 square inches of
clew? A real sailor would!

Guess I'm not a real sailor because from that pic, I wouldn't have a
clue!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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I've got the opposite issues - I just finished a blast of meds from minor surgery ...


"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels for Ozzies wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:55:45 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

There's that famous dry oz wit again ...


Must be the drugs, dry and constipated!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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Is this a real boat or are you talking metaphorically?


"The Cappys Master" Cappy kneels wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:38:56 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote:

I've got the opposite issues - I just finished a blast of meds from minor surgery ...


Gawd!
Wanna talk sailing?

My boats having her keel faired ready for the new season.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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Sail trim phoooey, what you can really learn from Bubbles "pics" is that they
show ideal
backstay tension for motoring.

Are you sure, Duggy Wuggy??

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Jeff Morris wrote:

Jeez Oz, of course he did!

But why aren't you prepared to do an analysis of sail trim based on 3 square inches of
clew? A real sailor would!

Sail trim phoooey, what you can really learn from Bubbles "pics" is that they show ideal
backstay tension for motoring.

DSK