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Bobsprit July 17th 03 05:43 PM

A new car!
 
I'm quite close to buying a new car, the rare MG-TF. I'm dealing with the
owners now and may have the car by next month, if her condition is truly above
90 points.

Here's a pic of the beautiful TF.

http://www.napanet.net/~scottdon/54MG_TF.jpg

I'm also seeking an MGA Twin Cam to keep in PA.

RB

jlrogers±³© July 18th 03 01:24 AM

A new car!
 
You'll need to lose about 40 pounds to get in it.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I'm quite close to buying a new car, the rare MG-TF. I'm dealing with the
owners now and may have the car by next month, if her condition is truly above
90 points.

Here's a pic of the beautiful TF.

http://www.napanet.net/~scottdon/54MG_TF.jpg

I'm also seeking an MGA Twin Cam to keep in PA.

RB


Bobsprit July 18th 03 01:26 AM

A new car!
 
Real men buy sports cars with V8s.

So much for the MGAs, Austin Healy's and Lotus' cars.
Loco, it's no wonder you bought an Express 30. It's as fast as a AMC
Javelin...and about as refined.

Oh well.

RB

Scott Vernon July 18th 03 02:05 AM

A new car!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote

At 262 pounds I'd be a scarecrow! I'm 6'3 & dopey.




Wally July 18th 03 02:15 AM

A new car!
 
"Bobsprit" wrote in message

... The TF and most British
roadsters are built for long legs...three of em'!


Especially the 7-derived Loti.


--
Wally
I demand rigidly-defined areas of uncertainty!
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk




The_navigator© July 18th 03 02:17 AM

A new car!
 


Scott Vernon wrote:
"Bobsprit" wrote

At 462 pounds I'd be a scarey! I'm drippy.



The_navigator© July 18th 03 02:46 AM

A new car!
 
I guess I was never a 'real' man. :-(

Cheers MC

SAIL LOCO wrote:
So much for the MGAs, Austin Healy's and Lotus' cars.

When real men buy a sports car real men buy Cobras, Griffiths, TVRs,
Panteras, Mangustas, Monteverdis, Bizzarrini 5300s, Maseratis, Ferraris,
Panozs, Corvettes, McLarens or yes Lotus now makes a V8 powered Esprit. But
you didn't know that.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport



felton July 18th 03 03:00 AM

A new car!
 
Shhh...don't discourage Bob. Having once upon a time owned one of the
old British sports cars, I think it would be ideal for him:) Fun to
drive on rare occasion and a huge pain in the ass the rest of the
time:)

If I were to regress to my thrill seeking days, I would have hung on
to my old Porsche 930 (pre-emission, high octane engine). That was a
fun car for the years that I owned it. Exotic cars are like exotic
women. Fun to ride now and then, but I wouldn't want to pay the
maintenance of owning either one:)


On 18 Jul 2003 01:44:28 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

So much for the MGAs, Austin Healy's and Lotus' cars.

When real men buy a sports car real men buy Cobras, Griffiths, TVRs,
Panteras, Mangustas, Monteverdis, Bizzarrini 5300s, Maseratis, Ferraris,
Panozs, Corvettes, McLarens or yes Lotus now makes a V8 powered Esprit. But
you didn't know that.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport



SAIL LOCO July 18th 03 03:05 AM

A new car!
 
If I were to regress to my thrill seeking days, I would have hung on
to my old Porsche 930 (pre-emission, high octane engine). That was a
fun car for the years that I owned it. Exotic cars are like exotic
women. Fun to ride now and then, but I wouldn't want to pay the
maintenance of owning either one:)

True, but you really can have your cake and eat it too. What you want is an
exotic that uses an American V8. Unlike a Ferrari etc you can blow the engine
to dust and can afford to buy a new one. I'm presently keeping my eye out for
a Pantera L. Italian mid engine V8 powered by a Ford 351. I'll install 4
Webers and have some fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SkitchNYC July 18th 03 03:12 AM

A new car!
 
Shhh...don't discourage Bob. Having once upon a time owned one of the
old British sports cars, I think it would be ideal for him:) Fun to
drive on rare occasion and a huge pain in the ass the rest of the
time:)


What a depressing image this conjures: a heavyset, sweaty guy in a tank top
leaning into the engine box of some little old piece of crap on a Queens side
street because he doesn't have a proper garage, with one eye constantly askance
looking for the mugger who is going to take what meager funds he has.

SAIL LOCO July 18th 03 03:12 AM

A new car!
 
Sure I do. It's a disaster with major chassis problems.

Haven't read that anywhere. Can you post a link to some info?


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

felton July 18th 03 03:27 AM

A new car!
 
Perhaps...but if I *were* in the market for a "fun car", I would see
if I could round up an older Porsche 911 SC ragtop. Porsche owners
are usually fanatics about taking care of their cars and the old SCs
are pretty well bulletproof. It wouldn't be as fast as many, but it
would be fun and generally headache free. The tubo that I had was a
beast and much more expensive to maintain.


On 18 Jul 2003 02:05:11 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

If I were to regress to my thrill seeking days, I would have hung on
to my old Porsche 930 (pre-emission, high octane engine). That was a
fun car for the years that I owned it. Exotic cars are like exotic
women. Fun to ride now and then, but I wouldn't want to pay the
maintenance of owning either one:)

True, but you really can have your cake and eat it too. What you want is an
exotic that uses an American V8. Unlike a Ferrari etc you can blow the engine
to dust and can afford to buy a new one. I'm presently keeping my eye out for
a Pantera L. Italian mid engine V8 powered by a Ford 351. I'll install 4
Webers and have some fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport



Jonathan Ganz July 18th 03 04:53 AM

A new car!
 
It'll go with your chrome anchor.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Shhh...don't discourage Bob. Having once upon a time owned one of the
old British sports cars, I think it would be ideal for him:) Fun to
drive on rare occasion and a huge pain in the ass the rest of the
time:)

I had a near 100 point MGB 1973 Chrome bumper model set to Euro specs. I
swapped out the electrical system and carbs (GM and Makuni) and it ran as
reliably as any honda. Never had a problem. You can do the same to the TF,

just
keep the original parts.
I sold the car for twice what I paid after a short time. Selling it was a
mistake.

RB




Jonathan Ganz July 18th 03 04:54 AM

A new car!
 
Don't worry. You weren't 162 pounds when you were born.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You'll need to lose about 40 pounds to get in it.

At 162 pounds I'd be a scarecrow! I'm 6'3, dopey. The TF and most British
roadsters are built for long legs...three of em'!

RB




Capt. Mooron July 18th 03 02:09 PM

A new car!
 
Don't fret MC... real men understand syncromesh, short throw shifts, spoked
hubs, dual carbs and rack & pinion steering.

CM
[Ex- 67-MG owner]


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| I guess I was never a 'real' man. :-(
|
| Cheers MC
|
| SAIL LOCO wrote:
| So much for the MGAs, Austin Healy's and Lotus' cars.
|
| When real men buy a sports car real men buy Cobras, Griffiths, TVRs,
| Panteras, Mangustas, Monteverdis, Bizzarrini 5300s, Maseratis, Ferraris,
| Panozs, Corvettes, McLarens or yes Lotus now makes a V8 powered Esprit.
But
| you didn't know that.
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| Trains are a winter sport
|



Vito July 18th 03 09:34 PM

A new car!
 
CANDChelp wrote:

I only like the "true" Lotus, before they were taken over, dopey.
Ever drive a real T-Esprit or Elan?


Esprit? Elan?? Naw ... only "11s", Super-7s, and the ilk are *real*
sport cars. The rest were built for mama's boys who demanded comfort.
(c:

Gilligan July 19th 03 05:40 PM

A new car!
 
I always got a kick out of a Datsun 510.



"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
I guess I was never a 'real' man. :-(

Cheers MC

SAIL LOCO wrote:
So much for the MGAs, Austin Healy's and Lotus' cars.

When real men buy a sports car real men buy Cobras, Griffiths, TVRs,
Panteras, Mangustas, Monteverdis, Bizzarrini 5300s, Maseratis, Ferraris,
Panozs, Corvettes, McLarens or yes Lotus now makes a V8 powered Esprit.

But
you didn't know that.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport






Gilligan July 20th 03 03:40 PM

A new car!
 
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...0106scc_rally/

My favorite place to drive was up on and around Old North Country Road (you
should know where that is).
The hills and turns were great. Even had the 510 burst into flames up there,
but still drove it home. What a car!



"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
I always got a kick out of a Datsun 510.

Ahh...and the B210....a bit fast for Billy Jane, I'm afraid.

RB




The_navigator© July 21st 03 02:10 AM

OT: A new car!
 
If he builds a new manifold would he be able to fit them in? Why not
make a twin turbo?

Cheers MC

Oz1 wrote:
On 18 Jul 2003 02:05:11 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:


If I were to regress to my thrill seeking days, I would have hung on
to my old Porsche 930 (pre-emission, high octane engine). That was a
fun car for the years that I owned it. Exotic cars are like exotic
women. Fun to ride now and then, but I wouldn't want to pay the
maintenance of owning either one:)

True, but you really can have your cake and eat it too. What you want is an
exotic that uses an American V8. Unlike a Ferrari etc you can blow the engine
to dust and can afford to buy a new one. I'm presently keeping my eye out for
a Pantera L. Italian mid engine V8 powered by a Ford 351. I'll install 4
Webers and have some fun.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport



Bwaaaahahaahhaahhahahahahaaaaa!



Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



CANDChelp July 21st 03 02:26 AM

A new car!
 
Gee, I guess that makes your boat a Rambler. The Javelin was pretty quick.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport


Till it met a corner!

Which reminds me of the time I outran a Vette in a "underpowered" Nissan 240
SX. Multilink suspension was more than a vette could handle at 120 mph. Many of
those big-tits cars do their best work on a track. Take one on an uneven
surface and good luck! In other words, Loco's dream cars lack finesse and class
in many cases.
Still, unlike him, I'm a fan of both types of cars. People like Loco just don't
get it.

RB

The_navigator© July 21st 03 02:29 AM

A new car!
 
But I'm still not a 'real' man. What can I do to be a real man without
buying a really noisy inferior car?

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Wow... 3 correct answers!

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| Wow rack and pinion! Now that's fun I imagine -do you have to wear
| leather -I'll ask Kook!
| Short shifts is that so you can see the girl's bottom when she bends
| over? Whooo Hooo
|
| Now this synchromesh? Is that a device to stop the inept from crashing
| gears?
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Oz1 wrote:
| On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:09:30 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
|
| Don't fret MC... real men understand syncromesh, short throw shifts,
spoked
| hubs, dual carbs and rack & pinion steering.
|
| CM
| [Ex- 67-MG owner]
|
|
| I think he just insulted you MC!
|
|
|
| Oz1...of the 3 twins.
| I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
|




The_navigator© July 21st 03 02:48 AM

A new car!
 
Bwhahahhahahahaha.

Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:
But I'm still not a 'real' man. What can I do to be a real man without
buying a really noisy inferior car?

Buy one of these...it's tough enough that Bush fell off one!
http://www.segway.com/

RB



SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 04:51 AM

A new car!
 
The Panterra springs to mind along with the Corvette as being among
the upper eschelon fo incredibly bad handling pigs!

The Pantera is a great handeling car for an early 70s design and anyone who
considers the world class bargin Corvette a "pig" just hasn't kept up. Yes I
know it fashonable to bash the Corvette these days but check the reviews and
race results.

All light, nimble and well able to outpace many of your v8's
point to point.

I'd like to see any of the cars you named "outpace" any of the cars I
listed between any 2 points over 20 feet apart.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 04:53 AM

A new car!
 
People like Loco just don't get it.

I get the fact I wouldn't be caught dead in a Subaru. Tee Hee!


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

CANDChelp July 21st 03 04:56 AM

A new car!
 
Yes I
know it fashonable to bash the Corvette these days but check the reviews and
race results.

After just one year of "moderate use" my Uncle's Vette rattled like three beer
cans towed behind a Yugo. It was a 2001. Fast? You bet! Civilized? Somewhat.
Well built? Not a chance.
He now drives a Audi A8.

RB

SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 05:03 AM

A new car!
 
After just one year of "moderate use" my Uncle's Vette rattled like three
beer
cans towed behind a Yugo. It was a 2001. Fast? You bet! Civilized? Somewhat.
Well built? Not a chance.

Who cares. The point being addressed was that the poster called it a "pig"
Your post means nothing since your uncle obviously doesn't know how to drive.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

CANDChelp July 21st 03 05:06 AM

A new car!
 
The point being addressed was that the poster called it a "pig"

It is a pig. It's a joke that drives well on a smooth track and plays hoppity
hop on a real world road.

RB

SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 05:42 AM

A new car!
 
The American's sports cars? Where are they?.

Some reviewers are saying with the latest tweeks the Lincoln LS Sport is now
ahead of the BMW 5 Series. The rest of the reviews are still to come. The
Vette keeps up with or blows away most of the worlds exotics that cost 4 - 10
times as much. Check out the 2 American world beaters Panozs and McLarens if
you think there's nothing going on in this country. The McLaren is the most
highly desired "sports car" in the world right now. You know nothing about
cars either.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Horvath July 21st 03 06:53 AM

A new car!
 
On 21 Jul 2003 04:42:10 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote this
crap:

The American's sports cars? Where are they?.

Some reviewers are saying with the latest tweeks the Lincoln LS Sport is now
ahead of the BMW 5 Series. The rest of the reviews are still to come. The
Vette keeps up with or blows away most of the worlds exotics that cost 4 - 10
times as much. Check out the 2 American world beaters Panozs and McLarens if
you think there's nothing going on in this country. The McLaren is the most
highly desired "sports car" in the world right now. You know nothing about
cars either.


My favorite "sports car" is my golf cart.





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

CANDChelp July 21st 03 10:47 AM

A new car!
 
Some reviewers are saying with the latest tweeks the Lincoln LS Sport is now
ahead of the BMW 5 Series.


Ummm.....bwahahahahahahahaha! Lincoln LS Sport has NO feedback compared to the
BMW. Even an honest dealer will admit this! The LS Sport is already a forgotten
car!

RB

CANDChelp July 21st 03 10:49 AM

A new car!
 
The
Vette keeps up with or blows away most of the worlds exotics that cost 4 - 10
times as much.

Except for the Mitsubishi and Subaru which cost half as much and have 4 wheel
drive!

RB

CANDChelp July 21st 03 10:52 AM

A new car!
 
The McLaren is the most
highly desired "sports car" in the world right now.

The McLaren is a semi-custom car that is barely a "production" car. I've sat in
ONE...the only that I saw in a Long Island showroom, and it wasn't even street
legal at the time. While I like the seating setup, it's not what I'd call a
real-world car.

RB

SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 04:56 PM

A new car!
 
Bloody hell Loco you really do know nothing about cars!
The only Corvette that ever handled is the Z06 and I haven't seen any
head to heads against the top Euro cars but I suspect it would not
hold its own.

So what you are saying is that the Z06 couldn't perform in the same ballpark
with the latest from Europe when it comes to skidpad performance, acceleration,
braking and slolom?
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SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 05:00 PM

A new car!
 
Ummm.....bwahahahahahahahaha! Lincoln LS Sport has NO feedback compared to
the
BMW. Even an honest dealer will admit this! The LS Sport is already a forgotten
car!..

Try to keep up Boobie. The 2003 LS has the ZF rack and pinion. Reviews have
stated the opposite of what you posted. You keep driving the dorkmobile. It
fits your lifestyle.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 05:05 PM

A new car!
 
The McLaren is a semi-custom car that is barely a "production" car. I've sat
in
ONE...the only that I saw in a Long Island showroom, and it wasn't even street
legal at the time. While I like the seating setup, it's not what I'd call a
real-world car.

Doesn't matter what you think. I posted that it was the most desired high
performance sports car in the world right now in response to the poster who
asked "where are the American sports cars" Over the course of automotive
history the latest at the time high performance cars would probably not be
considered "real world" cars to someone like you. I guess back in the 60s the
street version of the Ford GT40 wouldn't be a "real world" car to you.




S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

CANDChelp July 21st 03 05:13 PM

A new car!
 
I posted that it was the most desired high
performance sports car in the world right now in response to the poster who
asked "where are the American sports cars"

Bwahahaha! Face facts....The American sports car is mostly dead.
Mazda RX-8 and 9
New Nissan Z
Subaru WRX STI
Mitsu Evo
Acura NSX
And many more that just batter our Mustang and Vettes. Thrown the Audi's, BMWs
and such and it's a slaughter. There isn't an American car worth owning these
days...or 10 years ago for that matter!

RB

CANDChelp July 21st 03 05:15 PM

A new car!
 
The 2003 LS has the ZF rack and pinion. Reviews have
stated the opposite of what you posted.

The LS is a joke, for those who won't pay for the better BMW or Audi.
I'll never understand why the American market continues to allow the rest of
the world build better cars on the whole.

RB

CANDChelp July 21st 03 05:19 PM

A new car!
 
Z06 couldn't perform in the same ballpark
with the latest from Europe when it comes to skidpad performance, acceleration,
braking and slolom?

On a track the vette does great. So does a fixed rear axle Mustang for that
matter. My Unlce's Vette was a disaster on anything even slightly uneven,
especially compared to an RX-8 or NSX.
There's no substitute for the finess of a proper suspension. The Vette is a
beast to this day...or a pig if you will.
I've driven a late model edition.

RB

SAIL LOCO July 21st 03 05:54 PM

A new car!
 
There isn't an American car worth owning these
days...or 10 years ago for that matter!

Well I guess if you want to drive something that sounds like a lawn trimmer or
a leaf blower that's fine. Go for it.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SkitchNYC July 21st 03 11:28 PM

A new car!
 
Isn't the Lincoln a Jag in drag?

No, sadly, these days its the other way around.


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