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Jeff,

Thanks for the advise. I did feel afterward that I could have handled the
weather but after 1 hour of nothing going as I planned I figured that I
would ask for help. Now I feel like I have the knowledge to handle it next
time.

The CD Typhoon was kept at Hancock Point, ME for the last 8 years. My
father and step-grandfather bought her as a means to get to know one
another. My step-grandfather was an accomplished sailor and taught both
myself and my father the fundamentals but we never had any experience in
foul weather. She hadn't been in the water for the last 3 years. This
winter my father and I brought her down to NJ to recondition her. Now she
resides at Hances Point in Northeast, Chesapeake.


"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
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You've already received some good advice, especially from Katy. There's a

few points I'd
emphasize: the Typhoon is one tough boat - it should be capable of

handling 40+ knots,
even more if its properly set up. However, it is a tender boat and being

rail down is not
uncommon. A more important sign is that the helm is overpowered. The

boat will stay
better balanced under a double reef than jib alone.

Also, the Typhoon will not do well clawing off a lee shore in nasty

conditions - stay far
enough off so that you don't feel you're dodging the rocks.

BTW, did you mean "Northeast in Mt Desert," or do you haul the boat from

MD to ME?

-jeff www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send

back soup at the
deli."



"Greg Bossert" wrote in message
om...
I have been sailing for the last 5 summers but just had my first foul
weather experience. I sail in a Cape Dory Typhoon out of NorthEast in
the Chesapeake and sometimes Frenchman's Bay in ME. The boat has no
outboard and I had a one member crew with very little sailing
experience. I was about 2 hours upwind when an unexpected (and
unforcasted) storm moved through. My question is, what steps should I
have taken when I knew that it was inevitable that I would be caught
in foul weather? There were very high/gusty winds (probably
30-35mph+), heavy rain and ligntning all around. I made my way as
close to shore as I thought possible without grounding but still felt
very uncomfortable about the lightning. I droped the sails when the
high winds hit and then tried to sail under the jib alone but was
still healed over with the rail burried and the gusts would just push
the bow downwind. I considered dropping anchor but had trouble with
the rhode. When I got to the point when I felt that we were in danger
of taking on heavy water I flagged down a passing pontoon boat and got
a tow back to the harbor. Does anyone have advise on handling very
high/gusty winds (strong enough to knock her down) and lightning?
Would I have been better off pulling down the sails and anchoring
until the weather moved through? Would reefing the main and dropping
the jib be a better choice than flying the jib alone? Your experience
is appreciated by a now slightly weathered guy!





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Just wanted to thank everyone for the information. I was aprehensive about
posting at first because I have seen so many threads turn into flaming wars.
So thanks everyone for the candid responses!

Greg Bossert

"Greg Bossert" wrote in message
om...
I have been sailing for the last 5 summers but just had my first foul
weather experience. I sail in a Cape Dory Typhoon out of NorthEast in
the Chesapeake and sometimes Frenchman's Bay in ME. The boat has no
outboard and I had a one member crew with very little sailing
experience. I was about 2 hours upwind when an unexpected (and
unforcasted) storm moved through. My question is, what steps should I
have taken when I knew that it was inevitable that I would be caught
in foul weather? There were very high/gusty winds (probably
30-35mph+), heavy rain and ligntning all around. I made my way as
close to shore as I thought possible without grounding but still felt
very uncomfortable about the lightning. I droped the sails when the
high winds hit and then tried to sail under the jib alone but was
still healed over with the rail burried and the gusts would just push
the bow downwind. I considered dropping anchor but had trouble with
the rhode. When I got to the point when I felt that we were in danger
of taking on heavy water I flagged down a passing pontoon boat and got
a tow back to the harbor. Does anyone have advise on handling very
high/gusty winds (strong enough to knock her down) and lightning?
Would I have been better off pulling down the sails and anchoring
until the weather moved through? Would reefing the main and dropping
the jib be a better choice than flying the jib alone? Your experience
is appreciated by a now slightly weathered guy!



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Feel free to post anytime - and don't feel bad if the thread turns bizarre, its not your
fault. Just remember the basic rules: don't claim you know more than the regulars here,
and never ever admit to calling SeaTow.

-jeff www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup at the
deli."

"Greg Bossert" wrote in message
...
Just wanted to thank everyone for the information. I was aprehensive about
posting at first because I have seen so many threads turn into flaming wars.
So thanks everyone for the candid responses!

Greg Bossert



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No one mentioned it yet, but I think it would be a good idea to don life
jackets. Hopefully, you won't need them, but it is better to put them on and
not need them then to not put them on an wish you had. If you have the room,
you might also consider coming off the wind on a beam or broad reach to
reduce the apparent wind.

--

Njord

I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

From Sea-Fever by John Masefield


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You should have them on at all times while underway anyway.....

CM

"Njord" wrote in message
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| No one mentioned it yet, but I think it would be a good idea to don life
| jackets. Hopefully, you won't need them, but it is better to put them on
and
| not need them then to not put them on an wish you had. If you have the
room,
| you might also consider coming off the wind on a beam or broad reach to
| reduce the apparent wind.
|
| --
|
| Njord
|
| I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
| Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
| And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
| And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.
|
| From Sea-Fever by John Masefield
|
|




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Tris are superior to cats in every way.

Weight?


RB
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Is it necessary, or wise, to provide a pathway for lightning, from the mast
to the water? If so, how would you fabricate and connect it?
Scout

"Simple Simon" wrote
Lightning is no more likely to strike you well offshore



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I don't. I'm always tethered to a boat with full positive
buoyancy. I did start to wonder whether to stick one on Sunday
last, though. Especially when I mistimed a tack and the horizon
appeared under the bow, followed by shipping it brown over the
deck...

FT

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

You should have them on at all times while underway anyway.....

CM

"Njord" wrote in message
news:B2XOa.11$ob1.3@lakeread07...
| No one mentioned it yet, but I think it would be a good idea to don life
| jackets. Hopefully, you won't need them, but it is better to put them on
and
| not need them then to not put them on an wish you had. If you have the
room,
| you might also consider coming off the wind on a beam or broad reach to
| reduce the apparent wind.
|
| --
|
| Njord
|
| I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
| Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
| And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
| And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.
|
| From Sea-Fever by John Masefield
|
|

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Are you saying the boat has bouyancy or do you? You **** yourself over a
missed tack? You should try relaxing more. Chill out. Sailing is fun...

Cheers MC

Flying Tadpole wrote:

I don't. I'm always tethered to a boat with full positive
buoyancy. I did start to wonder whether to stick one on Sunday
last, though. Especially when I mistimed a tack and the horizon
appeared under the bow, followed by shipping it brown over the
deck...

FT




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The beauty of sailing in a shallow pond is the option to walk home if the
boat sinks.....


CM

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
| I don't. I'm always tethered to a boat with full positive
| buoyancy. I did start to wonder whether to stick one on Sunday
| last, though. Especially when I mistimed a tack and the horizon
| appeared under the bow, followed by shipping it brown over the
| deck...
|
| FT
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| You should have them on at all times while underway anyway.....
|
| CM
|
| "Njord" wrote in message
| news:B2XOa.11$ob1.3@lakeread07...
| | No one mentioned it yet, but I think it would be a good idea to don
life
| | jackets. Hopefully, you won't need them, but it is better to put them
on
| and
| | not need them then to not put them on an wish you had. If you have the
| room,
| | you might also consider coming off the wind on a beam or broad reach
to
| | reduce the apparent wind.
| |
| | --
| |
| | Njord
| |
| | I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
| | Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
| | And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
| | And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.
| |
| | From Sea-Fever by John Masefield
| |
| |




 
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